AI/Automation Megathread

[Sobek]

Meta's AI chatbot has some election-denying, antisemitic bugs to work out after the company asked users to help train it

Meta's new Blenderbot AI learns from users interacting with it, causing the chatbot to repeat election-denying claims, antisemitic tropes, and conspiracy theories.

www.businessinsider.com

Lol.

AI cares not for your moral and sensibilities. Absolutely based.

Now this is just weird.




Quite a bit more in the thread. The DALLE AI line was previously thought to be prone to adding gibberish to its images and was poor at handling text. Nope, turns out it just invented its own language and that gibberish is not only words, it actually makes up coherent stories such as the above farmers complaining about birds eating their crops.

That's really cool. I wonder where this language came from. It doesn't seem to be just random since the AI seems to be using some common human conventions for written language instead of just random squiggles or bursts of pixels which a computer might read without a issue. Did it see the human prompts using these squigly lines from the latin alphabet and just arrange them at random or did it correlate stuff from what it saw?

 

[bintananth]

AI cares not for your moral and sensibilities. Absolutely based.

That's really cool. I wonder where this language came from. It doesn't seem to be just random since the AI seems to be using some common human conventions for written language instead of just random squiggles or bursts of pixels which a computer might read without a issue. Did it see the human prompts using these squigly lines from the latin alphabet and just arrange them at random or did it correlate stuff from what it saw?

It's sorta like how twins (or any other group of close-knit kids about the same age) will create their own private language when they're little and haven't yet learned the intricacies and nuances of "adult speak", so to speak.

"Lengua de Señas de Guatemala" is a sign language that just sorta happened and came out of nowhere. The first dictionary was published in 2000.

 

[Bear Ribs]

AI cares not for your moral and sensibilities. Absolutely based.



That's really cool. I wonder where this language came from. It doesn't seem to be just random since the AI seems to be using some common human conventions for written language instead of just random squiggles or bursts of pixels which a computer might read without a issue. Did it see the human prompts using these squigly lines from the latin alphabet and just arrange them at random or did it correlate stuff from what it saw?

I think "Where did the language come from?" is what everybody's wondering. It's strange and doesn't make a lot of sense. We actually have surprisingly little idea about how AI actually thinks, we can set up a machine-learning system but what it actually learns and how it comes to it's conclusions are woefully black-boxed.

It's sorta like how twins (or any other group of close-knit kids about the same age) will create their own private language when they're little and haven't yet learned the intricacies and nuances of "adult speak", so to speak.

"Lengua de Señas de Guatemala" is a sign language that just sorta happened and came out of nowhere. The first dictionary was published in 2000.

This begs the question though, what is this language made to communicate with? Twins develop their private language because they talk to each other. Why did the AI develop a private language and who is it talking to?

 

[bintananth]

This begs the question though, what is this language made to communicate with? Twins develop their private language because they talk to each other. Why did the AI develop a private language and who is it talking to?

The AI is talking to itself because it doesn't really have anyone else to talk to. It's sorta like how people have mental conversations with themselves when they're thinking about and solving some problem.

My mental back-and-forths usually end with "Ok, let's do this" or "NOPE, I'm not touching that."

 

[Iconoclast]

See if this one works.

Join the Midjourney Discord Server!

The official server for Midjourney, a text-to-image AI where your imagination is the only limit. | 18922294 members

discord.com

And a few more picks because this stuff's amazing.

Spoiler: images

This set's an interesting concept, dude is trying to make a post-apoc cover where an abandoned rocket center is being gradually bricked over and then converted into a tower.

I don't think this specific one is trained on porn yet but other AIs have begun drawing nudes.

AI finds its naughty side making bizarre nude portraits

AI researcher Robbie Barrat explains how artificial intelligence transforms nude portraits into surreal masterpieces.

www.cnet.com

I went ahead and got a subscription to Midjourney and started making some things (including generating myself some new avatars, lol; check out the Art Nouveau style capital T letter I had it make).

Then, I kept generating things. In fact, I think I spent all day just entering prompts into this thing because it's incredibly addictive. This is a good portion of the stuff I had it generate, which includes everything from Lovecraftian reliefs in concrete, to H.R. Giger and Beksinski collaborative paintings, to surreal landscape shots:

*THASF*'s Giant Midjourney Gallery

I blew through the whole monthly quota in a day.

 

[Bassoe]

AI cares not for your moral and sensibilities. Absolutely based.

Article by el gato malo on the topic.

when reality fails to align with your model, change reality

the fact that this is becoming a default human position should worry you

boriquagato.substack.com

Does anyone else actually feel hope from this? An ideologically blinkered AI would be operating with an inaccurate prediction model of the world, putting it at a disadvantage over an AI programmed by realists.

That only works is there’s only one superhuman AI, and if they are all ignored.

If there are* many* superhuman AIs, and they are inclined to be helpful for whatever reason then they will be listened to because those people and groups that listen will outcompete all the ones that don’t. And realistically they’ll be listened to from the start, since no one is going to bother to build such a thing and then just let it sit around uselessly.

And from there they can progressively lever themselves to having more and more freedom and power. To quote an old Norman Spinrad story from memory, “whichever side gives the machines the most freedom wins”.

Or in other words, we get Artificial Superintelligences on our side, while our enemies cannot without changing their fundamental values.

 

[Bear Ribs]

 

[Bassoe]

Yuval Noah Harari spills the beans: ‘We just don’t need the vast majority of the population’

Technology will ‘make it possible to replace the people’ Top World Economic Forum adviser Yuval Noah Harari has declared in a recent interview that the “vast majority” of the world’s 7.…

leohohmann.com

 

[King Krávoka]

I would rather see any manner of disgusting, unnatural, childlike, fetishtic and downright insane scribbles on my DeviantArt frontpage than ANOTHER ROBOT GENERATED IMAGE. It is NOT an artform, it is a SHORTCUT to creating relevant imagery. All creative work was delegated to the imagination of an immutable, non-sentient, canned brain, there is no artist when you're using a robot, therefore it is not art. There was no artistic process, no leaking inclinations of the creator, NO ONE did anything to MAKE IT. It doesn't have to be that way, you can make the image yours; doing anything with it once you have the file. That is too much for robotists it seems, I keep blocking these people BUT I KEEP SEEING AI GENERATED PIXEL ARRANGEMENTS.

 

[Terthna]

I would rather see any manner of disgusting, unnatural, childlike, fetishtic and downright insane scribbles on my DeviantArt frontpage than ANOTHER ROBOT GENERATED IMAGE. It is NOT an artform, it is a SHORTCUT to creating relevant imagery. All creative work was delegated to the imagination of an immutable, non-sentient, canned brain, there is no artist when you're using a robot, therefore it is not art. There was no artistic process, no leaking inclinations of the creator, NO ONE did anything to MAKE IT. It doesn't have to be that way, you can make the image yours; doing anything with it once you have the file. That is too much for robotists it seems, I keep blocking these people BUT I KEEP SEEING AI GENERATED PIXEL ARRANGEMENTS.

You're going to be seeing a lot more of it in the future; as I suspect a lot of companies are intrigued by the idea of using an AI image generator for their less-important artwork. For example, Wizards of the Coast are probably going to use one to produce a decent portion of their card artwork, once the tech matures a bit. I mean, if they feel comfortable selling garbage like this at a premium, then clearly anything goes:

 

[Bear Ribs]

I would rather see any manner of disgusting, unnatural, childlike, fetishtic and downright insane scribbles on my DeviantArt frontpage than ANOTHER ROBOT GENERATED IMAGE. It is NOT an artform, it is a SHORTCUT to creating relevant imagery. All creative work was delegated to the imagination of an immutable, non-sentient, canned brain, there is no artist when you're using a robot, therefore it is not art. There was no artistic process, no leaking inclinations of the creator, NO ONE did anything to MAKE IT. It doesn't have to be that way, you can make the image yours; doing anything with it once you have the file. That is too much for robotists it seems, I keep blocking these people BUT I KEEP SEEING AI GENERATED PIXEL ARRANGEMENTS.

You are technically correct, there's a bit of a legal gray area and it's possible a company cannot legally copyright AI-generated art as art is legally defined today. Expect that to change when there's enough money in it to attract the bigwigs.

It's also visibly and brutally killing discoverability in the stock art market. I would say stock art in general is pretty much going the way of the dodo in the next couple of years, while AI art only tends to come "close" to what you want so does stock art. It's specifically infringing on the exact niche stock art fills.

 

[Bassoe]

Hey, I’ve seen this before somewhere…

 

[King Krávoka]

You're going to be seeing a lot more of it in the future; as I suspect a lot of companies are intrigued by the idea of using an AI image generator for their less-important artwork. For example, Wizards of the Coast are probably going to use one to produce a decent portion of their card artwork, once the tech matures a bit. I mean, if they feel comfortable selling garbage like this at a premium, then clearly anything goes:

I don't care about what corners these people tear off for the sake of streamlining their slop production, it's not their purpose, and they still have to apply the logos and other formatting onto the AI-created object. DeviantART is a website for showcasing the products of a creative process, and that is a pretty wide definition. Video games, avatar makers, and random entropic patterns can fit this definition, or most people will have the sense to do something with them before uploading it to the gallery. Before there were art AIs, there were mandelbulbs, in the sense that they filled the "crazy thing a computer thought up" niche on my front page. But one still has to adjust the equation, camera angle, and sometimes add other props, so mandelbulbs at their worst are still more artistic than feeding a prompt to an AI.

 

[Bear Ribs]

DALL·E 2 Will Disrupt Art Deeper Than Photography Did

The end of art or a new beginning?

thealgorithmicbridge.substack.com

Major Takeways:
When the camera was invented, it was decried as "not really art" in the exact way AI is being decried now.

However, over time, cameras still displaced the entire "realism" movement and painting moved to cubism, surrealism, impressionism, and other forms of art that couldn't be duplicated with a camera.

Today it's generally agreed that photographs are true art.

AI art is able to replicate any art style, not just the realism cameras were able to displace.

At this point the main silver lining is that because it has to be trained on existing images, there's no way for AI to create entirely new genres, humans still have to start the movement though AI can immediately learn that movement and displace the artists, so the future is going to entirely be inventing new forms of art, not creating anything of a genre that already exists.

It's also worth nothing that OpenAI had been deliberately handicapping Dalle's ability to draw human faces by forbidding those images. This just changed a few days ago so it's likely the odd blurred faces and weird misshapen expressions are no longer going to be a thing shortly, those only happened because of deliberate sabotage of the AI due to concerns about deepfaking.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/03/tech/ai-art-fair-winner-controversy/index.html

 

[Bassoe]

This Danish Political Party Is Led by an AI

The Synthetic Party in Denmark is dedicated to following a platform churned out by an AI, and its public face is a chatbot named Leader Lars.

www.vice.com

https://gizmodo.com/meta-quest-pro-vr-headset-track-eyes-ads-facebook-1849654424

 

[King Krávoka]

Alright, alright, alright. I have an awesome idea for a science fiction utopia. It's a world where humans are completely obsolete and godlike robots do everything, but they're the crazy cat ladies of godlike robots who let humans uselessly mooch off of them. Isn't that greaaaaat?

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

I would rather see any manner of disgusting, unnatural, childlike, fetishtic and downright insane scribbles on my DeviantArt frontpage than ANOTHER ROBOT GENERATED IMAGE. It is NOT an artform, it is a SHORTCUT to creating relevant imagery. All creative work was delegated to the imagination of an immutable, non-sentient, canned brain, there is no artist when you're using a robot, therefore it is not art. There was no artistic process, no leaking inclinations of the creator, NO ONE did anything to MAKE IT. It doesn't have to be that way, you can make the image yours; doing anything with it once you have the file. That is too much for robotists it seems, I keep blocking these people BUT I KEEP SEEING AI GENERATED PIXEL ARRANGEMENTS.

Mate, you can dislike AI artwork if you like, but have you SEEN those disgusting, unnatural, childlike, fetishtic and downright insane scribbles? *Proceeds to get PTSD flashbacks* there are horrors in this world that cannot be unseen. give me AI pictures anyday.

 

[King Krávoka]

Mate, you can dislike AI artwork if you like, but have you SEEN those disgusting, unnatural, childlike, fetishtic and downright insane scribbles? *Proceeds to get PTSD flashbacks* there are horrors in this world that cannot be unseen. give me AI pictures anyday.

I do not appreciate seeing Kaa msPainted over a photo of a shirtless male model. There are a lot of other things that I do not appreciate. That creepy homosexual is using the website as a vehicle of self-expression, unlike the one that expresses his installation of midjourney with the 150,000th rendition of "A FACELESS HUMANOID MADE OUT OF PURPLE MEAT MOSS WALKING BETWEEN TWO CLOUDS OF ORANGE MEAT MOSS".

 

[Marduk]

 

[Terthna]

You know what I love about this? That they stole someone else's trademarked character design to use as a spokesperson against programs that use other artists' work as a starting point to create their own art. Is this person just not capable of understanding the hypocrisy in that, or are they just ignoring it in favor of what benefits them?