Specifically TT, but there are 'flamer' weapons in lore which actually fire pelletized Promethium. Think of a paint ball gun with super pressure firing balls of incandescent, liquid death.
Yeah those type of flamer weapons still don't have a listed weapon ranges tho, the Incendine Combustor from the video game Warhammer40k: Mechanicus which is like the best type of flame thrower weapon in lore available has a smaller range than any bolter or rifle in the game.Specifically TT, but there are 'flamer' weapons in lore which actually fire pelletized Promethium. Think of a paint ball gun with super pressure firing balls of incandescent, liquid death.
The other tricky thing is that the final Battle of the first Avatar movie, IIRC, didn't take place on the surface so to speak, but in the Hallelujah Mountains and thus the actual battlefield was a giant floating rock with its own giant biome. I could be mistaken but all of the forces the RDA brought in to that final battle were airdropped. But even if it is on the surface, and it could very well be (and should be since otherwise the OP wouldn't work), the RDA still had to deploy their forces using airborne vehicles to the battlefield.
The only reason I'm bringing it up is that there is no reasonable way for the Navi forces to counter the sixteen or so heavily armored vehicles in the Catachan battalion... but conversely... they are not very mobile in the jungle. Literally having to BURN everything down to get somewhere with terrain as unfriendly as Pandora isn't going to be practical. Do I think a battalion of 800 Catachan troops can defeat two thousand Navi. Yeah... I do. But they'd have to force the engagement and unlike the RDA, they'd take a much longer time getting there which could mean a prolonged attrition of Catachan forces and/or greater numbers of Navi available for when they are actually forced to fight and defend one of their happy trees.
DO IT!I have an idea for an alternate universe of Avatar in response to that sack of shit that is James Cameron.
Yeah, the place is a death world, where everything is out to kill you, from the bugs and the microbes to the vsrious types of rapidly growing megaflora thst IIRC burrowed under buildings to destroy them.Flamers are useful for offensive situations in general not just entrenched enemies. On the planet catachan flamers are used to keep the foliage and fauna away from settlements. Because the ones of thier home planet are a lot more dangerous then that of Pandora. Barking toads.... Catachan Devils.... etc etc.
Flamers are good for clearing large forested or jungle like areas. Because it will push people out. Force then out in the open to be mowed down. If you don't leave you burn to death. If you leave you get shot to death. It is also a lot harder to fight when you are burning.
You are acting like these soldiers arnt used to being outnumbered and out gunned. Here they are just outnumbered.... facing knock off orks. A lot lower tech level then orks....
That is correct they all arnt the same. It still didn't stop them from getting beaten back in the movie. They literally were losing before the animals arrived.
The thing is, the catachans have a lot better weapons to deal with the native animals.
True, but there are plenty that hunt the people of the planet and the people have adapted. Catachan Devils for instance, or the face eaters...
The RDA mechs are bik bulky and have giant glass windows on them.....
And Ogryns are more dangerous then being just in melee.
Autocannons...lots of Autcannons here. Like, literally block out the air with them.
Add in that the Catachans would actually be using the environment and not just doing a firing line...using the jungle to fight jist like the Navi. Theybwould be in the open if they don't need too. The RDA had slow firing large caliber that doesn't compare to that of a Autocannon. Hell, waves of enemies from Orks to Tyranids that outnumber the Navi arnt always able to defeat a BN of Guard....
Oh look, stampede. Oh look, it just got stopped by an Ogryn and those that didn't get mowed down by Lascannons have been melted by Chem weapons. Or melta...
Because the Navi are giant ass targets and tracking the Navi to where ever they are and knowing they are in a trap is huge...
Multiple times Catachans can sneak up on Eldar....
What arty? They have mortars. Which are actually great in a jungle and wanna know why? They make splinters. Lots kf them in deadly amounts.
It'd why you don't run into a forest when under fire.
The Navi have no way to actually kill the Chimeras or the Bane Wolf, or the Hellhound.
The Bane wolves alone can basically make a large area around the Catachan base camp barren as can the flamer wothout having to risk being hit by Arrows.
You obviously dont know anything about jow catschans work then.
Navi have the forest to help, so do Orks, that outnumber the Catachans.
Yet when a small batch of Catachans went to help some Ork Hunters, they were to damn good....
I'm just curious as to what potential strategy, tactics and training that the Catachans will apply here that will earn them a solid W. We can all agree that the Catachans have more capability then the RDA when it comes to their ground forces, but they still have to find a way to apply that superiority into seizing victory.
DO IT!
And it's important to note that even if the Catachan can't win, that doesn't mean the Catachans quality is invalid or that of Warhammer 40K.
For all of the plotholes and weak writing that James Cameron is accused of, he had to make a scenario which made it seem plausible for the final Battle to take place. The movie set up a time sensitive reason (a few days their will be enough Navi to overcome the perimeter), why the RDA used lightly armored forces (it was basically a private company), and had them deploy to the Hallelujah Mountains where everyone could only be transported by aircraft. They didn't even have a dedicated bomber since they had to use a shuttle to deploy a daisy cutter.
The Catachans could take on two thousand Navi in an open battle, but the Navi won't have to oblige unless they're forced to and the only thing that would force them to fight would be one of their super magic trees.
The OP might actually be more interesting if it took place at the Hometree. It actually seemed to have some clear fields of fire and while the RDA flew there, maybe it was accessible by ground routes so the Catachans could fight a convoy through the jungle to said Hometree.
But then again the RDA already won that Battle so... there might not be much of a point involved.
Hmm counter argument, while it's true they have a similar home planet their population and military power is significantly greater than 800 infantry with a squadron or two of tanks.So just like thier home world of catachan.
Or any number of Jungle death worlds in 40k.
Everything wants you dead
Sadly no hydras are here.OP is really just about the 1st movie fight.
What the planet brings to the fight is NOT insurmountable. Rhino critters may be pretty tough, but I bet they run from Promethium or just dissolve vs Chem-Cannons. The ground forces Awha brings are screwed.
All the flying beasties are the threat in open terrain. But a few Hydra batteries should turn a LOT of that into raining chunky salsa. Any they miss will be dealt with by lots of Lasfire. The flyers can't really help in the thick jungle.