United States 8 Oregon counties vote to secede and join Idaho

[stephen the barbarian]

Another rural Oregon county voted to explore moving to Idaho, part of a larger effort to secede from the blue state

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Harney County became the latest Oregon county to express interest in joining the "Greater Idaho" movement, an effort to secede from Democratic-leaning Oregon and join conservative Idaho.

On Tuesday, a measure that would require local officials to hold meetings about the idea passed, with 63% of the vote in favor, according to the early results.

Seven other Oregon counties have previously voted in favor of exploring the move: Lake, Grant, Baker, Malheur, Union, Sherman, and Jefferson."

Two more Oregon counties to vote on whether or not to secede into Idaho
"Secession will be on the ballot in two Oregon counties in the Nov. 8 elections when voters will either accept or reject joining the Greater Idaho initiative.

The movement aims to facilitate the transfer of 15 full counties and two partial counties in eastern Oregon, two-thirds of Oregon’s total land mass, into neighboring Idaho. It’s an area that is overwhelmingly conservative, while the state’s politics are dominated by the liberal cities of Portland, Eugene and Bend in western Oregon.

The two voting counties in the upcoming election are Morrow and Wheeler."

basically everything east of the Rockies is rural, conservative, and done with the coast. many feel that the government in Salem does not represent their interests and as such they want to join Idaho.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Huh, wonder how that will work out. I'm not entirely surprised, Oregonians on either side of the rockies utterly despise each other. I've seen people unironically, on SB and other boards, describe Oregon as "Portland, and Nazis."

This meme kinda sums it up:

 

[Sergeant Foley]

Another rural Oregon county voted to explore moving to Idaho, part of a larger effort to secede from the blue state

"
Harney County became the latest Oregon county to express interest in joining the "Greater Idaho" movement, an effort to secede from Democratic-leaning Oregon and join conservative Idaho.

On Tuesday, a measure that would require local officials to hold meetings about the idea passed, with 63% of the vote in favor, according to the early results.

Seven other Oregon counties have previously voted in favor of exploring the move: Lake, Grant, Baker, Malheur, Union, Sherman, and Jefferson."

Two more Oregon counties to vote on whether or not to secede into Idaho
"Secession will be on the ballot in two Oregon counties in the Nov. 8 elections when voters will either accept or reject joining the Greater Idaho initiative.

The movement aims to facilitate the transfer of 15 full counties and two partial counties in eastern Oregon, two-thirds of Oregon’s total land mass, into neighboring Idaho. It’s an area that is overwhelmingly conservative, while the state’s politics are dominated by the liberal cities of Portland, Eugene and Bend in western Oregon.

The two voting counties in the upcoming election are Morrow and Wheeler."

basically everything east of the Rockies is rural, conservative, and done with the coast. many feel that the government in Salem does not represent their interests and as such they want to join Idaho.

I hope they realize Christine Drazan (R) is likely winning the Oregon Governorship in 23 days

 

[Skallagrim]

But why join Idaho? Just split both Washington and Oregon along the mountains, and then A) fuse the two coastal rump states together, and B) fuse the two inland rump states together. Done. You can even keep the same two state names. Just flip a coin on which state gets which name, or something.

 

[Jormungandr]

A lot of California wants to do this sort of thing, too. They want to get away from the crazy Lefties and disastrous Democrat leadership, though I think their plans involved making their own state than joining another?

 

[Cherico]

But why join Idaho? Just split both Washington and Oregon along the mountains, and then A) fuse the two coastal rump states together, and B) fuse the two inland rump states together. Done. You can even keep the same two state names. Just flip a coin on which state gets which name, or something.

because the last time some one successfully did something like that was during the civil war.

This might have a better chance of working.

 

[Agent23]

A lot of California wants to do this sort of thing, too. They want to get away from the crazy Lefties and disastrous Democrat leadership, though I think their plans involved making their own state than joining another?

I think it was called Franklin.

 

[LordsFire]

I think it was called Franklin.

Jefferson, actually.

 

[Agent23]

Jefferson, actually.

Oh, yeah, Franklin was some other project to do the same, with bits of a different state?

 

[Bacle]

But why join Idaho? Just split both Washington and Oregon along the mountains, and then A) fuse the two coastal rump states together, and B) fuse the two inland rump states together. Done. You can even keep the same two state names. Just flip a coin on which state gets which name, or something.

They want Idaho because it's a very red state, and they share more values with Idaho than with Portland or Seattle.

I've seen some maps of the areas involved that do include bits of North-Eastern California as well, which would be interesting if Idaho and Cali suddenly had a border.

It also means the least about of political reapportionment in DC, which makes it an easier sell if/when it gets to that level. Idaho might gain a few seats, but Washington and Oregon might only lose one apiece do to the way the populations are spread out. And there would be no new Senate seats added either, which helps simplify things at that level, unlike a new state would.

Redrawing internal state boundaries like this is one of the more bloodless and least acrimonious ways to deal with deep cultural divides in each state and let them join another US state that they have more in common with.

 

[Earl]

But why join Idaho? Just split both Washington and Oregon along the mountains, and then A) fuse the two coastal rump states together, and B) fuse the two inland rump states together. Done. You can even keep the same two state names. Just flip a coin on which state gets which name, or something.

I mean from the perspective of political plausibilty, the Dems will not accept two more GOP senators.

 

[DarthOne]

I mean from the perspective of political plausibilty, the Dems will not accept two more GOP senators.

They’re going to have to get used to having to accept a lot of things soon, God willing.

 

[Sergeant Foley]

But why join Idaho? Just split both Washington and Oregon along the mountains, and then A) fuse the two coastal rump states together, and B) fuse the two inland rump states together. Done. You can even keep the same two state names. Just flip a coin on which state gets which name, or something.

Washington will NEVER be split!

 

[Grant Us Eyes]

I'd love to see this escalate to the point where they successfully pull this off.

But I'm blackpilled to the point of just expecting the movement to get ignored completely, and when pressed, get the reason of 'Because fuck you, that's why.'

 

[Cherico]

I'd love to see this escalate to the point where they successfully pull this off.

But I'm blackpilled to the point of just expecting the movement to get ignored completely, and when pressed, get the reason of 'Because fuck you, that's why.'

i expect that outcome too.

This is a part of the peaceful phase of a populist revolt, where people do increasing actions to get out of the thumb of an increasingly cult like and incompetant establishment.

 

[Sergeant Foley]

i expect that outcome too.

This is a part of the peaceful phase of a populist revolt, where people do increasing actions to get out of the thumb of an increasingly cult like and incompetant establishment.

Yet Drazan is likely winning the Oregon Governorship in 22 days

 

[Cherico]

Yet Drazan is likely winning the Oregon Governorship in 22 days

I wish to wait and see on that.

 

[Atarlost]

Yet Drazan is likely winning the Oregon Governorship in 22 days

We have only mail in ballots. Drazan could get 100% of the real votes and still lose.

 

[Sergeant Foley]

We have only mail in ballots. Drazan could get 100% of the real votes and still lose.

Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin (R) campaigning for Drazan this week. Republican Governors Association is spending millions for Drazan.

I still think Drazan pulls it off.

 

[Skallagrim]

I mean from the perspective of political plausibilty, the Dems will not accept two more GOP senators.

Sure, that's the reason they don't want it. But that's also why it's obviously a good idea.

The reality now is that you have two states where the inland population is forever held politically hostage by the coastal population. It's not representative in the slightest, and wasn't that supposed to be the idea underpinning the USA's political system? If you split this region East-West instead of North-South, however, you get two states that are both governed as the vast majority of their respective inhabitants would like it-- and that both send representatives to DC that are actually... representative of their states' overwhelming political attitudes.

Obviously, that's not what the Democrats want at all. But again: to me, that's just an extra reason to believe it's a good idea.