2nd Civil War Theorycrafting Thread, Peaches Free

[King Arts]

I have been away from this site for a awhile and sort of forgot I posted on this thread so I'll cover my thoughts here. Let us cover this bit first.

"The divide is caused by many republicans having principles and Democrats being intolerably evil".

A good joke I found on Facebook goes like this voting is like driving your car you vote R to go backwards and you vote D to go forwards.

My mother and brother are hardcore R voters. They don't give a shit what Trump says. He could kill a baby on live video and I'm 99% sure they would find some messed up way to make that great. But going back to that bit If you think attacking a women's right to her body is good then we can agree to disagree. If you think the right lying to us every day of the week is good we can agree to disagree on that point as well. I have lived under Trump for four damn years. When he was put in office I was willing to give him a few weeks. I didn't think he should've run but he won so I allowed him time to prove his worth. His worth turned out to be less than nothing and anybody who thinks he was a good choice lives under a rock. The guy was a sexist, racist, dimwit and he did nothing but make us a joke.

To be sure I'm sure some on the right are good people. I have yet to hear one that doesn't sound like an utter tool but I'm sure some do exist and if I ever hear them talk I may be willing to give them a vote. I'm not about to say the whole party is in a Trump cult but some are and I'll not act like that fact isn't true. I'll also not act like his base aren't nazis because when you wave a nazi flag around and wear nazi shit and do what the nazis did your a nazi. I would love if that fact wasn't shown to be true every day but it is. So when somebody says that the right are good and the left are bad I have to say you must be living in make believe land because everything you're saying is nothing more than dog droppings.
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Democrats are allowed use terrorists to influence politics their way every ele3ction cycle, violate nearly every article in the constitution, and murder babies with an efficiency that would make Hitler jealous.

Care to list what parts you think we are violating or should I just put this up to me being a lover of freedom and civil rights? I'm going to guess you think a woman opting out of a pregnancy is murder. Sorry but it isn't and yelling louder doesn't make it true. I have heard more than enough know-nothings yell that and every time I prove them wrong they just yell the lie all the louder. Murder has a use in law and that isn't anywhere in that use. To murder a baby the baby has to be born first. Before that point, there is no baby to kill and thus nobody to kill. I can't say I know what you mean by influencing the way people vote. You go into a room and you vote. Your choice is yours. Nobody can make you vote for anybody but who you want to vote for. This isn't Russian or North Korea. Here people have rights.
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We should have had a civil war as soon as Roe VS Wade dropped. We should have had a civil war when BLM burned down cities with the express approval of Democrats in the legislature. We should have had a civil war when our entire nation was illegally put on lockdown and the fourth amendment was flushed down the toilet.

Your time in school wasn't great, was it? Even when we were fighting to be free from the king we still did lockdowns. There was nothing illegal about locking down the nation in 2019-2022. Any nation with a bit of sense did so and solved the whole mess in a matter of weeks. It was only the dumbasses here who didn't do the most basic shit that caused it to last for as long as it did and killed as many people as it did.

My mother and brother always had a fit any time they were asked to wear a mask. If a doctor can wear a mask for 12+ hours you can wear a damn mask for five damn minutes while you're out picking up your foodstuff and daily needs. Stop being an oversized baby and do what is asked of you.

I strongly disagree that we should be waging a civil war over Roe V Wade or Covid-19. That would be fucking stupid and solve nothing. As far as the fourth amendment goes this is what that covers.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

What that has to do with Covid-19 I haven't a clue.

A lot of what you said is wrong, but one thing that does make you sound like an inbred lunatic is that you typed what you are responding to and did not quote it. It’s like you are talking to yourself and disagree with yourself. Do you not know how to use quotes? You can literally just highlight the text and it will quote for you.

 

[LordsFire]

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Have you heard of 'one screen, two movies?'

It's a way of describing how two different people can look at the same events, and if you ask them about it, they'll describe something completely different.

That is very clearly what is happening with you compared to most people on this site. Generally, that seems to come down to 'which media sources do you believe, and why?'

If you uncritically believe the likes of CNN, MSNBC, etc, there's nothing that can really be done to persuade you that you're wrong. Your accepted sources for 'what is really happening' are going to make it impossible for you to agree with anyone conservative.

Instead of trying to rebut you point by point, I'm going to ask you one question:

"What is your standard for falsification?"

If you aren't familiar with the term, it means 'what evidence is necessary for you to conclude that X statement is not true?'

If you want a particular issue to apply that to, what would your standard for falsification be to convince you that Trump and his supporters are not nazis?

 

[SpaceOrbis]

Trump's base are not the people waving around nazi flags or doing what the nazis did. Certainly, those people exist, but as a tiny, tiny minority that in no way represents the entire group, anymore than the guys on the left waving around the communist flag and insisting that true communism has never been tried represent the entirety of their base.

1-Oh then do you care to explain why you have people wearing nazi flags while at a Trump rally or all the times a Trumper has waved a damn nazi flag or acted as the nazis did back in the day. No of course not because that would mean not being nice to Trump and that just can't be allowed now can it? I get liking a guy but there is a point where you have to also be willing to point out their failings. Trump was a major fuck up. He did only one thing worthy of note. He showed how much more work still has to be done. He said he would make us great again. He didn't. He made it worse and anybody who says otherwise lives under a rock.

That right does not exist, at least not in the unilateral sense you imply ( even Europe, while engaging in their performance little freakout over the end of Roe, doesn't recognize bodily autonomy as a right, abortion is recognized as a mere policy decision).

So, you think if you kill a pregnant women that's nine months in, at the stage where the baby will born at practically any second, that's only one life you've taken, not two? On a philosophical level, that's your belief (I say philosophically because legally, it's a double homicide, not one).

2-Now you're talking about another thing altogether. No, I already answered what an abortion is many times to people who wish to act like what happened with that ruling was for the life of an unborn child. It was an attack on women. It was an attack on a woman's right to her body. Anybody that thinks that wasn't the core of that ruling has removed themselves from having any say on the matter. I'm unsure what Europe has to do with a ruling here but I'm sure some women were just as upset as women here. I agree that they should be upset. The ruling was unjust and shouldn't have been made. It's one of the reasons why I never see myself voted R. Every time I hear anything linked to anybody on the right it's some fucked up idea or thought.

I can understand that not everybody will think as I do and they have the right to those thoughts and views. But at some point, you have to understand that having a view that doesn't match yours doesn't make us foes to fight until the Sun dies. People can disagree on shit. But the way the right would have us act to others not like ourselves to hate them and attack them.

I could've maybe gotten past all Trump's failings with time but after the 6th and everything we now know I can say I would never vote for him nor anybody he supports. My family didn't fight for this nation for over 160+ years to allow a loser with a wag act like a child and have a fit. That is what we saw that day. He did everything in his power to overrule the will of the people and when that failed he attacked...or he ordered the nation to be attacked. Add in the fact he took stuff afterwards that he had no rights to I don't think the odds are good he'll be free enoghy to run again. Cells aren't known to be all that big after all.

 

[SpaceOrbis]

Have you heard of 'one screen, two movies?'

It's a way of describing how two different people can look at the same events, and if you ask them about it, they'll describe something completely different.

That is very clearly what is happening with you compared to most people on this site. Generally, that seems to come down to 'which media sources do you believe, and why?'

If you uncritically believe the likes of CNN, MSNBC, etc, there's nothing that can really be done to persuade you that you're wrong. Your accepted sources for 'what is really happening' are going to make it impossible for you to agree with anyone conservative.

Instead of trying to rebut you point by point, I'm going to ask you one question:

"What is your standard for falsification?"

If you aren't familiar with the term, it means 'what evidence is necessary for you to conclude that X statement is not true?'

If you want a particular issue to apply that to, what would your standard for falsification be to convince you that Trump and his supporters are not nazis?

Oh that's an easy answer. Not wearing nazi shit, not waving nazi flags, not being at a trump rally while wearing/holding said shit Another would be if everything he does doesn't make me think of the nazis.

As for me being an oddity here I can agree. This place seems to be a home for the right and lovers of Trump. I can sort of deal with that because people can hold odd views but it does seem like what I'm saying is going in one ear and out the other and nothing is in the middle. I mean everything I said can be proven fairly easily. You just have to watch anything that isn't the Fake news. If your idea of good news is Fox News you may as well be saying you're a flat earther because that's how I'll view your IQ.

 

[Terthna]

I mean everything I said can be proven fairly easily.

Then do so. Stop wasting everyone's time trying to gaslight, and playing at being the only reasonable person in the room.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

Oh that's an easy answer.

1. Not wearing nazi shit, not waving nazi flags, not being at a trump rally while wearing/holding said shit
2. Another would be if everything he does doesn't make me think of the nazis.

You are speaking of individuals that Trump has no control over in the case of your number one complaint. What do you expect Trump to do? Have the Neo Nazis shot? Forcibly call out the National Guard to remove them via force? Encourage his other non-nazi supporters to beat the hell out of them? ("I wish..")

The fact is that if Trump did any of the above, the opposition would still complain this time about how he committed draconic overreach of power in evicting them even if they are morally evil from a public rally in violation of the first amendment or inciting his supporters into violence.

The second statement you make however is completely impossible and arbitrary because you could see Trump as a Nazi for any number of reasons and provided he did your first recommendation and somehow forcibly evicted removed those individuals from his public rallies the entire thing becomes subject as to why you believe him to be a Nazi to begin with without iconography.

 

[Captain X]

9/10 the people waving Nazi flags are Leftists pretending to be their own boogieman.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

9/10 the people waving Nazi flags are Leftists pretending to be their own boogieman.

As much as I wish it were the case it most likely isn't, these chucklefucks have always been circling in the shadows like vultures seeking to grab onto what little they can to try to further their agenda like the disease they are...

 

[PsihoKekec]

These days most of them are on federal payroll though.

 

[Battlegrinder]

1-Oh then do you care to explain why you have people wearing nazi flags while at a Trump rally or all the times a Trumper has waved a damn nazi flag or acted as the nazis did back in the day. No of course not because that would mean not being nice to Trump and that just can't be allowed now can it? I get liking a guy but there is a point where you have to also be willing to point out their failings. Trump was a major fuck up. He did only one thing worthy of note. He showed how much more work still has to be done. He said he would make us great again. He didn't. He made it worse and anybody who says otherwise lives under a rock.

Ok, there is a huge difference between "I don't like Trump, he made a lot of mistakes and was overall a poor fit for the role" and "one guy at a rally had a nazi flag, clearly all of his supporters are like that guy".

2-Now you're talking about another thing altogether. No, I already answered what an abortion is many times to people who wish to act like what happened with that ruling was for the life of an unborn child. It was an attack on women. It was an attack on a woman's right to her body. Anybody that thinks that wasn't the core of that ruling has removed themselves from having any say on the matter. I'm unsure what Europe has to do with a ruling here but I'm sure some women were just as upset as women here. I agree that they should be upset. The ruling was unjust and shouldn't have been made. It's one of the reasons why I never see myself voted R. Every time I hear anything linked to anybody on the right it's some fucked up idea or thought.

The point of bring up Europe was to note that the idea there is any such right is not supported anywhere within the western legal system (not even in Roe, which grounded itself in a right to privacy, rather than bodily autonomy), and that therefore its extremely dubious to act like this a clear cut case of "rights" being attacked.

Second, you didn't answer my question, and I would like you to do so. You maybe have already answered it elsewhere, but this is the first time you've brought up this topic on this site, and I'm not under any obligation to scour the internet searching for some answer.

I'll ask again: Suppose a pregnant women nine months in, with a baby due any moment and that could even have delivery safely induced, is murderer. How many people died, one, or two? And why? This should be a straightforward answer, you've already said:

To murder a baby the baby has to be born first. Before that point, there is no baby to kill and thus nobody to kill.

But given you're trying to wiggle out of saying that, I suspect you don't really believe your own argument.

I can understand that not everybody will think as I do and they have the right to those thoughts and views. But at some point, you have to understand that having a view that doesn't match yours doesn't make us foes to fight until the Sun dies. People can disagree on shit. But the way the right would have us act to others not like ourselves to hate them and attack them.

If you think the abortion debate is toxic largely due to the actions of the right, I have to question how closely you've been following this debate.

Now, certainly there are exceptions to this, but a good example of mainline view of the pro life would be someone like Kathryn Jean Lopez or Alexandra Desanctis, who while hostile to the act itself are incredibly compassionate toward the women involved, and while significantly charitable toward the industry or its defenders, I don't recall them saying anything that would rise to the level of out and out hate.

Meanwhile, the pro-choice position is....well, you're actually on the polite end of this, but you're failing into the same tired arguments. "You're just religious nuts that want to control women", "you're just hateful and want to make people suffer", "some doctor got assassinated 30 years ago, clearly you're all like that", etc. They've been orders of magnitude more toxic than the pro life side.

 

[Ixian]

Oh that's an easy answer. Not wearing nazi shit, not waving nazi flags, not being at a trump rally while wearing/holding said shit Another would be if everything he does doesn't make me think of the nazis.

As for me being an oddity here I can agree. This place seems to be a home for the right and lovers of Trump. I can sort of deal with that because people can hold odd views but it does seem like what I'm saying is going in one ear and out the other and nothing is in the middle. I mean everything I said can be proven fairly easily. You just have to watch anything that isn't the Fake news. If your idea of good news is Fox News you may as well be saying you're a flat earther because that's how I'll view your IQ.

When has Trump ever worn nazi paraphernalia, when has he ever approved nazi imagery being used at his rallies?

You sound unhinged and as if you've lived in a different reality for the last few years.

 

[Sobek]

Like someone said before, one screen two movies.

This dude has just drank the entire jar of kool aid of anti-Trump propaganda. His text mentioned only one real policy point with conservatives, Roe v Wade, and other than that it's all just vague "well he doesn't behave nice" shit.

 

[LordsFire]

Oh that's an easy answer. Not wearing nazi shit, not waving nazi flags, not being at a trump rally while wearing/holding said shit Another would be if everything he does doesn't make me think of the nazis.

So, as others have said, you're describing basically every conservative.

Go look up footage of Trump rallies on Google. Not just carefully curated CNN, NBC, etc shots that show either the one tiny group of fascists who are desperately trying to gain influence since the Dems stopped having anything to do with them, or outright false-flag operators.

You will see hundreds of thousands of people with no nazi flags, with no nazi paraphernalia, with nothing remotely resembling any of that.

American Conservatism is the movement for small and limited government. Fascism is, to quote Benito Mussolini, the man who founded the fascist movement, 'All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.'

That is the exact antithesis of Conservatism, and has a much stronger resemblance to political leftism, who have been trying to get government involved in every corner of people's lives at least since FDR.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

the few "Right-Winged" Fascist Sympathizers here are mainly Europeans and to be frank, I think that's because most of Europe's tradition stems from collectivism and uber nationalism so America's vs Europe's definition of left-wing and right wing are reversed (we just happen to share the same common enemy as said enemy is straight up anti-west for some reason) and you'll notice that A. the amount of them can be counted on one hand and B. they tend to get ratioed about three to one if not more depending on the comment.

There were no nazi flag carriers at jan 6th. as far as I can see the leaders were not carrying guns, in fact we're finding the few people who were causing trouble were informant plants.

 

[Aldarion]

A good joke I found on Facebook goes like this voting is like driving your car you vote R to go backwards and you vote D to go forwards.

Voting Republicans is driving off the cliff in the first gear, voting Democrats is driving off the cliff in the fifth gear.

Sometimes, driving backwards is the only good choice.

But going back to that bit If you think attacking a women's right to her body is good then we can agree to disagree.

I'm going to guess you think a woman opting out of a pregnancy is murder.

It is always funny to see Left swearing by science one moment and outright denying it the other.

Baby is not part of woman's body. It is a completely separate organism. Humans are placental mammals. You know what placenta's purpose is? To transfer foodstuffs between mother's body and that of a baby without mixing their blood - because if they did mix, antibodies in mother's body would attack the baby as a foreign organism. Which it is.

So yes, "woman's right to her body" is a piece of bullshit that goes against nature, against science and against logic. Abortion is murder, looking in purely scientific-biological terms (but of course, Leftists don't care about science, they only care about avoiding responsibility).

Leftists are liars, part infinitum.

The guy was a sexist, racist, dimwit and he did nothing but make us a joke.

You mean, like literally every single US president in last half a century?

I'll also not act like his base aren't nazis because when you wave a nazi flag around and wear nazi shit and do what the nazis did your a nazi.

Most of neonazis are not Nazis. Firstly, Nazis were leftists in many ways - even their racial categories were flexible, more similar to leftist principles than rightist. They also denied all forms of nationalism, and clumped all ethnicities into their respective racial supergroups, without making any distinction between them. World War 2 was literally nothing more than giant leftist civil war - no matter who won, Left will have won because all sides (except maybe Central European countries such as Poland, Romania etc.) were dedicated leftists. Secondly, neonazis don't really have developed ideology beyond "Jews bad, Communists bad, white race rules". Well, at least the middle part they got correct.

Care to list what parts you think we are violating

Like all of it? Left is constantly violating states' rights, individual rights (gun control) and so on. They want to turn the US into Europe.

To murder a baby the baby has to be born first.

Bullshit. Baby is a separate organism from the moment it had been conceived. Just the fact that it had been murdered inside mother's mody doesn't mean it is not murder.

Now, murder can be justified, in certain conditions, but it is still murder.

Before that point, there is no baby to kill and thus nobody to kill.

I can't say I know what you mean by influencing the way people vote. You go into a room and you vote. Your choice is yours. Nobody can make you vote for anybody but who you want to vote for. This isn't Russian or North Korea. Here people have rights.

First, bolded part is extremely questionable.

Secondy, people usually think what they are told to think. Mass media are literally the worst enemy of freedom, worse than NKVD.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I have been away from this site for a awhile and sort of forgot I posted on this thread so I'll cover my thoughts here. Let us cover this bit first.

"The divide is caused by many republicans having principles and Democrats being intolerably evil".

A good joke I found on Facebook goes like this voting is like driving your car you vote R to go backwards and you vote D to go forwards.

That's not a joke, even boomer humor is sometimes funny. Republicans are in the back seat telling Dems to slow down but doing nothing to get into the front seat to try and get the schizophrenic crackhead off the road. Because they believe they can collect a payout if they get hurt.

the GOPe is controlled opposition, it's not a party of principles, or at least it wasn't after Reagan until the America First movement started primarying all the hacks.

How you could be fearful of obvious ideological traitors like the McCain family or the Romneys baffles me.

My mother and brother are hardcore R voters. They don't give a shit what Trump says. He could kill a baby on live video and I'm 99% sure they would find some messed up way to make that great. But going back to that bit If you think attacking a women's right to her body is good then we can agree to disagree.

Yes, violating a whole bunch of amendments by declaring an American citizen to be less than human, than slaughtering that citizen by exposing it to toxins that dissolve it then vacuuming it out of its home is a monstrously immoral deed that ought not to just be illegal it to ought to provoke an extreme revulsion in citizens of a country that went to war and killed 650,000 of their fellow citizens over the rights of people deemed to be less than people by unjust laws.

Yes abortion is an abomination, it's fundamentally unconstitutional, it is a weapon of genocide against black Americans and Central Americans (Us South Americans don't abort, we just abandon fucked up babies. ) and native Americans and disabled people. It is the height of unamerican, frankly neoconfederate and seditious nonsense to support abortion.

Abortion is a moral evil that restores the Antebellum America that was and nullifies a shitton of amendments by its sufferance.

And it must gall you people that it takes an immigrant to point that out..But yes, if you are for abortion you should renounce your citizenship and get the hell out of here. This country isn't for you, too many people have died in the cause of freedom for it to be yours anymore.

If you think the right lying to us every day of the week is good we can agree to disagree on that point as well. I have lived under Trump for four damn years. When he was put in office I was willing to give him a few weeks. I didn't think he should've run but he won so I allowed him time to prove his worth. His worth turned out to be less than nothing and anybody who thinks he was a good choice lives under a rock. The guy was a sexist, racist, dimwit and he did nothing but make us a joke.

Ah yes, restoring the Reagan economy, absolutely wrecking the predatory globalist institutions that have displaced, dispossessed and destroyed two generations of Americans. Taking the fight to China and damn near attaining reconciliation between the two Koreas was "less than nothing."

Christ I don't even like the guy. he's a 90's Liberal to his core and kind of a cuck in regards to letting Rinos run roughshod on his ass but even I won't deny the merits of his presidency.

]To be sure I'm sure some on the right are good people. I have yet to hear one that doesn't sound like an utter tool but I'm sure some do exist and if I ever hear them talk I may be willing to give them a vote. I'm not about to say the whole party is in a Trump cult but some are and I'll not act like that fact isn't true. I'll also not act like his base aren't nazis because when you wave a nazi flag around and wear nazi shit and do what the nazis did your a nazi. I would love if that fact wasn't shown to be true every day but it is. So when somebody says that the right are good and the left are bad I have to say you must be living in make believe land because everything you're saying is nothing more than dog droppings.

Those people routinely got mocked by Trump in front of their faces.

Most of those were also FBI agents and leftists doing one of the silliest psyops in human history because no one serious believed any of that.

Care to list what parts you think we are violating or should I just put this up to me being a lover of freedom and civil rights?

A nation spanning Kristlanacht was perpetrated by violent leftwing ethnonationalists that resulted in over 20,000 sexual assaults and more homicides than died in the towers on 9-11.

This was encouraged by traitors within the US military who knelt at the feet of these violent racial supremacist thugs, by leftwing politicians who encouraged them to burn, loot and murder and by a renegade and hyperpartisan federal law enforcement apparatus that was acting against the United States and its interests.

The fires BLM lit could be seen from orbit literally and the fact that they were organized, funded and militarized by the left is indisputable.

Which amendments were violated there?

Fucking 1, 2, 4,5, prollly 8, 9 and ten and oh yeah 14 and 15.

I'm going to guess you think a woman opting out of a pregnancy is murder.

Yes and very soon states will begin passing laws that'll result in the doctors who perform them getting the Gosnell treatment and it'll be hilarious.

]Your time in school wasn't great, was it? Even when we were fighting to be free from the king we still did lockdowns. There was nothing illegal about locking down the nation in 2019-2022. Any nation with a bit of sense did so and solved the whole mess in a matter of weeks. It was only the dumbasses here who didn't do the most basic shit that caused it to last for as long as it did and killed as many people as it did.

This is insane...you have to legitimately suffer from some kind of reality distorting neurological illness to believe what you're saying here. You have to be trolling...it's either that or you need to take your antipsychotics again broski.

My mother and brother always had a fit any time they were asked to wear a mask. If a doctor can wear a mask for 12+ hours you can wear a damn mask for five damn minutes while you're out picking up your foodstuff and daily needs. Stop being an oversized baby and do what is asked of you.

Fuck no.

And I say this as someone who was recently hospitalized for the Wuhan bioweapon (Because they just shove remdesivir into the arms of every asthmatic in my state even if we're presenting with zero damage to our lungs and no fever nor sign of covid pnuemonia.), who celebrated his release from confinement by hitting the weights in a gym with a "Mask on? No service" sign on the door the first moment I was not contagious.

No sane nation ought to imprison their people because of a few of us wheezers and some fatasses/troons with the beetus who can't hack it might be at risk.

My life is not worth @Captain X @Spartan303 @bullethead @Bacle and whoever else I'm forgetting that's a homegrown gringo...and I'd straight up abandon any country that does it and argues that's benevolent and legal...again.

I strongly disagree that we should be waging a civil war over Roe V Wade or Covid-19. T

You're right..what we should have done was elected hard right radicals and minarchists for four decades who would have spent two generations utterly gutting the power of the Federal Government, defunding Federal Law Enforcement and disbanding the CIA for their treasonous and frankly unamerican activities.

What we should have done was amend the constitution to add an amendment that makes abortion as illegal as slavery..same for assisted suicide.

But Americans didn't, they chose to try and negotiate with inhuman monsters who want them dead and their children raped and who think it's funny.

And look where that's gotten the US.

 

[Spartan303]

Christ I don't even like the guy. he's a 90's Liberal to his core and kind of a cuck in regards to letting Rinos run roughshod on his ass but even I won't deny the merits of his presidency.

Not exactly. What Trump thought was that if he brought the Rinos in they'd see the light and stand by him simply because they had no real principles of their own. This was...in error. Perhaps one of his biggest blunders of his presidency. Rather than stand by him they betrayed him and their voter base. Now they're suffering the consequences for it.

A second Trump Presidency would see him go full Trump Unleashed. And I look forward to it.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

A second Trump Presidency would see him go full Trump Unleashed. And I look forward to it.

One hopes!

 

[strunkenwhite]

Yes, violating a whole bunch of amendments by declaring an American citizen to be less than human, than slaughtering that citizen by exposing it to toxins that dissolve it then vacuuming it out of its home

What makes a fetus an American citizen?

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

What makes a fetus an American citizen?

If these kids be gestating inside an American, them fetus' be Americans.