United States 2024: United States Senate Dicussion Thread

[StormEagle]

Are you're doing is shitting up a thread over a topic you don't give a shit about to piss people off.

I care about this topic quite a lot. I just don’t agree with you, there’s a significant difference between the two.

If you’re getting pissed off, consider anger management classes or getting a different dom. The globalists ain’t right for you.

 

[StormEagle]

I don’t see why you people are so shocked by the concept of me not wanting to fight for the establishment cunts.

The social contract and the constitution of the United States has been repeatedly and egregiously violated, American citizens unlawfully killed or jailed, and you expect me to start singing Glory, Hallelujah say yes sir Uncle Sam and march to my death for the profits of the entrenched globalists?

Fuck that.

I know you’re British and have an instinctual need to boot lick, but that doesn’t mean the rest of us do.

You go on and fight for the glorious cause of globalism, if it means that much to you I guess.

Why should I? The illegals certainly ain’t.

Is you jaw tired from sucking government cock yet?

That was uncalled for, and I’d like to retract and apologize for those statements. I let my temper get away there.

 

[Agent23]

“And on this episode, we compaire their cultures, weapons and organizations to discover… how they haven’t both collapsed already. Because seriously. How.”

In the case of India it is basically an artificial construct created by beitbongs.

The only time thet place was unified was under some guy who was named after Ahsoka Tanno or Ahshok from Dilbert, said empire lasted for his lifetime, iirc.

China is more an autistic overly centralized monoculture where the bureaucracy does it's best to stay in it's ivory toweres and write ever more elaborate laws while the peasantry does it's best to make as much money as possible and work around said laws.
And they are both pretty xenophobic with the Chinese historically being pretty isolationist.

Is there a way they can both lose and cancel each other out?

And maybe cancel places like Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan while they are at it?!?

TBH thoufhz if the Chicoms fight the Designated Shitting Street Cow Worshipers I will be rooting for the Chicoms

 

[StormEagle]

Ok, let’s try this again. With the benefit of hindsight and whiskey not making me as aggressive, I can see that I was a little more combative than I should have been and it took away from the main thrust of my argument and I indulged a little to much in hyperbole.

So let me recenter the argument I was actually making.

I do not think that the majority of the younger generations, who would be the ones called up in the event of a draft, have the stomach, natural inclination, or even the fitness to fight in any war. Whether that be in the Middle East or China, it doesn’t really matter to that analysis.

I’d also argue that, outside an obvious case of self defense, the US Federal Government does not deserve the support of those generations.

In this argument, I consider the Federal government as a separate entity to the platonic ideal of the US as a nation.

If there was a government in place that actually upheld the constitution and its ideals and actually cared about its own citizens as much as they care about illegals, that actually upheld the rule of law, that truly cared about our rights and Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness…

I’d sign up in a heartbeat and fight and die for that any day of the week.

That is not a government that we are currently living under and I refuse to die to uphold the establishment and their parasitic cronies in the deep state.

If that makes me a bad citizen or person in other peoples eyes well, guess I can’t do anything about that.

I do apologize to @Vyor and @Lord Sovereign for being overly aggressive and crass in my argument. Some of the things I said were uncalled for, so sorry.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

Ok, let’s try this again. With the benefit of hindsight and whiskey not making me as aggressive, I can see that I was a little more combative than I should have been and it took away from the main thrust of my argument and I indulged a little to much in hyperbole.

Ah, an argument + whisky. A dangerous combination to be sure.

And whilst I still do not quite agree with you, I accept your apology. Things perhaps did get a bit too heated on both ends I think.

 

[49ersfootball]

I actually tend to doubt this. The uproar was big enough that it was poisoned as an idea. They might get a few parts through, but not a lot of it.

Also, Ronna McDaniels is going.

Had no idea McDaniel was leaving.

 

[49ersfootball]

Any thoughts on this surprising development ?
@KilroywasNOTHere @Agent23 @Cherico @Buba @TheRomanSlayer @gral @f1onagher @Mimas @Typhonis @The Whispering Monk

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[Vyor]

Ok, let’s try this again. With the benefit of hindsight and whiskey not making me as aggressive, I can see that I was a little more combative than I should have been and it took away from the main thrust of my argument and I indulged a little to much in hyperbole.

So let me recenter the argument I was actually making.

I do not think that the majority of the younger generations, who would be the ones called up in the event of a draft, have the stomach, natural inclination, or even the fitness to fight in any war. Whether that be in the Middle East or China, it doesn’t really matter to that analysis.

I’d also argue that, outside an obvious case of self defense, the US Federal Government does not deserve the support of those generations.

In this argument, I consider the Federal government as a separate entity to the platonic ideal of the US as a nation.

If there was a government in place that actually upheld the constitution and its ideals and actually cared about its own citizens as much as they care about illegals, that actually upheld the rule of law, that truly cared about our rights and Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness…

I’d sign up in a heartbeat and fight and die for that any day of the week.

That is not a government that we are currently living under and I refuse to die to uphold the establishment and their parasitic cronies in the deep state.

If that makes me a bad citizen or person in other peoples eyes well, guess I can’t do anything about that.

I do apologize to @Vyor and @Lord Sovereign for being overly aggressive and crass in my argument. Some of the things I said were uncalled for, so sorry.

What this guy said:

Ah, an argument + whisky. A dangerous combination to be sure.

And whilst I still do not quite agree with you, I accept your apology. Things perhaps did get a bit too heated on both ends I think.

I still disagree with you, but I understand your opinion.

 

[Terthna]

Ok, let’s try this again. With the benefit of hindsight and whiskey not making me as aggressive, I can see that I was a little more combative than I should have been and it took away from the main thrust of my argument and I indulged a little to much in hyperbole.

So let me recenter the argument I was actually making.

I do not think that the majority of the younger generations, who would be the ones called up in the event of a draft, have the stomach, natural inclination, or even the fitness to fight in any war. Whether that be in the Middle East or China, it doesn’t really matter to that analysis.

I’d also argue that, outside an obvious case of self defense, the US Federal Government does not deserve the support of those generations.

In this argument, I consider the Federal government as a separate entity to the platonic ideal of the US as a nation.

If there was a government in place that actually upheld the constitution and its ideals and actually cared about its own citizens as much as they care about illegals, that actually upheld the rule of law, that truly cared about our rights and Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness…

I’d sign up in a heartbeat and fight and die for that any day of the week.

That is not a government that we are currently living under and I refuse to die to uphold the establishment and their parasitic cronies in the deep state.

If that makes me a bad citizen or person in other peoples eyes well, guess I can’t do anything about that.

I do apologize to @Vyor and @Lord Sovereign for being overly aggressive and crass in my argument. Some of the things I said were uncalled for, so sorry.

It doesn't really matter anyways; China is, after all, a paper tiger. They're so reliant on foreign investment and resources, that all we would have to do to defeat them is to stop sending them money, blockade their shipping, and they'll collapse within a year. Honestly, the only threat China poses to the United States is through their influence over almost every aspect of our society (the government, the media, academia, business, et cetera); but even then, the bribe money is running out.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

It doesn't really matter anyways; China is, after all, a paper tiger. They're so reliant on foreign investment and resources, that all we would have to do to defeat them is to stop sending them money, blockade their shipping, and they'll collapse within a year. Honestly, the only threat China poses to the United States is through their influence over almost every aspect of our society (the government, the media, academia, business, et cetera); but even then, the bribe money is running out.

Many thought similarly of the Third Reich and they did not think wrongly.

But how much damage did Adolf Hitler do to the world before his car crash of a regime finally fell? Probably best if the US deals with China now.

 

[Terthna]

Many thought similarly of the Third Reich and they did not think wrongly.

But how much damage did Adolf Hitler do to the world before his car crash of a regime finally fell? Probably best if the US deals with China now.

The problem with that comparison, is that Adolf Hitler presided over a massive German economy, as well as one of the best trained and equipped militaries in all of Europe at the time. Whereas thanks to generations of bad decisions and corruption, China's economy and military are damn near worthless; but for the CCP's admittedly impressive efforts at propagandizing everyone into believing otherwise. Once that illusion shatters though, that's it; China is done.

 

[strunkenwhite]

The problem with that comparison, is that Adolf Hitler presided over a massive German economy, as well as one of the best trained and equipped militaries in all of Europe at the time. Whereas thanks to generations of bad decisions and corruption, China's economy and military are damn near worthless; but for the CCP's admittedly impressive efforts at propagandizing everyone into believing otherwise. Once that illusion shatters though, that's it; China is done.

China may be underperforming compared to where it should be as an economy and military due to corruption and rulers that favor political reliability over growth, strength, and the well-being of the populace; but that doesn't necessarily mean a country with over a billion people isn't a formidable foe.

I think a better counterargument would be that while conflict with Nazi Germany was pretty much inevitable, China doesn't seem as ... rabid. We can compare it instead to the USSR which we did not in fact have to fight. Someone did end up having to fight Russia but by then it was a shadow of its former conventional threat level, and the conflict is one that doesn't seem highly likely to escalate to nuclear exchange.

Going for the economic jugular as you described earlier without a very, very compelling reason is just asking for Pearl Harbor II: Nuclear Boogaloo. Better to wait it out and let our enemies undermine themselves. Our future is brighter than theirs unless we completely screw the pooch, and in that scenario I don't really think it's going to matter if we had our boot on their neck before we shot ourselves in the other foot. In fact it might be better if they didn't have extra motivation to stick it to us.

 

[DarthOne]

It doesn't really matter anyways; China is, after all, a paper tiger. They're so reliant on foreign investment and resources, that all we would have to do to defeat them is to stop sending them money, blockade their shipping, and they'll collapse within a year. Honestly, the only threat China poses to the United States is through their influence over almost every aspect of our society (the government, the media, academia, business, et cetera); but even then, the bribe money is running out.

I'd also point out that a lot of that nonsense only flies because we let it. Or rather, the government does.

 

[filipina84]

A lot of stuff will hit the fan soon.

Migration being out of control.

Ukraine/Israel and the middle east/China and Taiwan.

A huge recession/hard landing due to fed incompetence.

The massive deficit.


And to thst you can ass the bumbling Alzheimer's patient with the pedo cokehead son in the White House.


I think that even some Demonrats are disgusted and unhappy.

And others see the situation and think it is best to do a tactical retreat and let Trump hold the bag.

If anything it looks like the Fed and the treasury department are desperate to kick the can down the road until after the elections.

The following Democrats with 2028 aspirations for the White House likely to benefit with Biden losing to Trump in November:
1.) Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer
2.) California Governor Gavin Newsom
3.) Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro
4.) Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker
5.) Maryland Governor Wes Moore
6.) North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper

 

[filipina84]

By bringing us in I don't mean attack us directly.
I mean hoping fir a civil war and then going after something we have a treaty with BEFORE we start killing each other.
That or Russia goes for Alaska and China attacks Guam and Okinawa

Why in the world would China target Guam?

 

[Zachowon]

Why in the world would China target Guam?

B52s and fighter aircraft

 

[49ersfootball]

B52s and fighter aircraft

Getting scarier.

 

[49ersfootball]

@f1onagher @Mimas @The Whispering Monk @Sergeant Foley
It's looking more & more like TX State Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) will be campaigning for the United States Senate in 2026 & he's launching potshots at United States Senator John Cornyn (R-TX) over Corynyn voting in favor of the $95 billion foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan early this morning.
Cornyn clashes with Ken Paxton over support for foreign aid bill

Here's the Twitter Wars between Paxton & Cornyn: Something tells me Cornyn won't be seeking reelection to 5th term.

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[The Whispering Monk]

Cornyn sucks. He needs to go...badly.

 

[49ersfootball]

Cornyn sucks. He needs to go...badly.

Fox 26 KRIV-TV Houston political reporter Greg Groogan of 'What's Your Point' believes Senator Cornyn will NOT be seeking reelection to a 5th term in 2026. Paxton's obviously gunning for Cornyn's US Senate seat in two years.