United States 2024: United States Senate Dicussion Thread

[The Whispering Monk]

Unless the war activity threatens the USA, good luck getting the manpower to replace casualties. Or possibly even to fight it.

I think you'll be surprised. There are a lot of people that will sign up for war.

 

[Zachowon]

Like I said, we will be dragged into a war.

 

[Vyor]

The destruction of that last one would likely result in millions of deaths from the deluge and wipe out power for a significant chunk of what doesn't get washed into the ocean.

Four. Hundred. Million.

That's the number of deaths if the dam goes. Almost half a billion people. Among them? China's entire government. It's about 30% of China's total population.

If the dam gets blown up, there wouldn't be a china left.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

When things hit a critical mass and even that stops working that's when they will give up on even the apperance of democracy.


People are not angry enough yet not mad enough yet, when it hits a critical level you will know.

The Democrats will have to blatantly cheat to keep Biden in office, Also I'm pretty convinced that keeping him in for another 4 years will be what triggers the second US civil war. Or if we are lucky a quick revolution.

 

[Blasterbot]

I doubt a foreign war would be successful under the current admin. I doubt the country maintains cohesion unless the war is against an existential threat. I don't want a civil war but I don't think either political side is competent enough to unify the country against a foreign power.

 

[Agent23]

War with China would be ruinous.

For China.

They're already facing demographic collapse after multiple decades of the one child policy with no sign of recovery since raising a single child is ruinously expensive let alone the new limit of three, India would instantly got hot on their water war for the headwaters of China's three major rivers and destroy Chinese water infrastructure, their economy is a joke and made up of tofu dregs, their military has just been outed as incredibly corrupt to the point that no one is properly trained and their strategic weapons are full of water instead of fuel, and they've got the biggest infrastructural strategic target in the world in the Three Gorges Dam. The destruction of that last one would likely result in millions of deaths from the deluge and wipe out power for a significant chunk of what doesn't get washed into the ocean.

Even if China won, if any significant amount of casualties were inflicted they'd lose in the end.

A conventional war between China and the US is very much not in China's favor. And they should be smart enough to realize that.

And that's with the recruiting problems the USA is having.

One has rofu skyscrapers, the other has designated shitting streets....

 

[DarthOne]

One has rofu skyscrapers, the other has designated shitting streets....

“And on this episode, we compaire their cultures, weapons and organizations to discover… how they haven’t both collapsed already. Because seriously. How.”

 

[StormEagle]

I think you'll be surprised. There are a lot of people that will sign up for war.

The people that would have to fight this war would be the millennials and gen z.

Now some of both of those generations might be interested in signing up, but the US governments has done a hell of a good job alienating the segment of the population that would be interested.

Add to that, the vast majority of both of those generations are pretty much worthless. Either physically unfit (granted, that could be fixed in basic) or mentally.

The military would have to implement a draft to get a good amount of fighting men to work with, and I think these generations would be worse draft dodgers than the hippies.

I, for one, have absolutely no interest in dying for a government that has proven time and again that it hates me.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

I, for one, have absolutely no interest in dying for a government that has proven time and again that it hates me.

Amusingly dramatic.

Do you think Xi Jinping is a kinder master than the imbeciles in DC?

 

[StormEagle]

Amusingly dramatic.

Do you think Xi Jinping is a kinder master than the imbeciles in DC?

XI Jinping hasn’t been the one killing American citizens and violating their rights.

That’s been our own government. Waco and Ruby Ridge more than proved that, and however many more thousands of incidents and citizens killed by fed bois on a power trip has just proven to me that they are more a threat to me personally than the damned Chinese.

Edit: No, the Chinese wouldn’t be good masters. But the fact you even use that word shows me that the west has forgotten that the government here isn’t supposed to be our masters in the first place.

Our government is supposed to serve us and our interests, not the other way around. The beuraucrats seem to have forgotten that.

 

[Vyor]

That’s been our own government. Waco and Ruby Ridge more than proved that, and however many more thousands of incidents and citizens killed by fed bois on a power troop has just proven to me that they are more a threat to me personally than the damned Chinese.

Literally fucking 50 years ago.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

XI Jinping hasn’t been the one killing American citizens and violating their rights.

You haven’t the first fucking clue what the CCP would do to you, don’t you?

They are worse.

They are many orders of magnitude worse.

China is a totalitarian hellscape with aspirations of global empire that would dearly love to put its boot on all our windpipes.

 

[StormEagle]

Literally fucking 50 years ago.

No justice was had and they’ve only gotten worse since. They’ve just gotten more sophisticated in their malice.

You haven’t the first fucking clue what the CCP would do to you, don’t you?

They are worse.

They are many orders of magnitude worse.

China is a totalitarian hellscape with aspirations of global empire that would dearly love to put its boot on all our windpipes.

I’m well aware of the depredations of the CCP. Don’t speak to me like I’m ignorant, euro.

My point is my government is only slightly better, just less obviously malicious, and a much more immediate threat.

I also don’t think the Chinese capable of expanding, and I’m not going to cower into the arms of Uncle Sam on the assumption that the shambling corpse of China is going to conquer us all.

My position has always been clear:

No matter what, I refuse to die for this G.A.E.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

My point is my government is only slightly better, just less obviously malicious, and a much more immediate threat.

Hmm.

Standoffs between Federal Law Enforcement and loony compounds spiralling out of control vs literal death camps.

Ah yes, not much difference between those eh?

 

[StormEagle]

Hmm.

Standoffs between Federal Law Enforcement and loony compounds spiralling out of control vs literal death camps.

Ah yes, not much difference between those eh?

Stop being disingenuous and or strawmanning the argument.

Hyperbole is a thing and besides you’ve had several establishment figures arguing for reeducation camps for conservative Americans. So much better.

I know you’re British and have an instinctual need to boot lick, but that doesn’t mean the rest of us do.

You go on and fight for the glorious cause of globalism, if it means that much to you I guess.

 

[Vyor]

No justice was had and they’ve only gotten worse since. They’ve just gotten more sophisticated in their malice.

So you'd never ever ever ever ever fight on behalf of the USA even if its cities are getting bombed?

Why are you even here?

 

[StormEagle]

So you'd never ever ever ever ever fight on behalf of the USA even if its cities are getting bombed?

Why are you even here?

Yes, because the Chinese are so capable of that.

As long as a globalist administration is in charge? No, I will not die to defend them. Get me a patriotic administration purged of leftists that actually cares about its citizens, and the equation changes don’t it?

Edit: I also want the glowies sufficiently punished and curtailed.

 

[Vyor]

Yes, because the Chinese are so capable of that.

As long as a globalist administration is in charge? No, I will not die to defend them. Get me a patriotic administration purged of leftists that actually cares about its citizens, and the equation changes don’t it?

Edit: I also want the glowies sufficiently punished and curtailed.

Ok, leave then. No one cares about you.

 

[StormEagle]

Ok, leave then. No one cares about you.

Why should I? The illegals certainly ain’t.

Is you jaw tired from sucking government cock yet?

 

[Vyor]

Why should I? The illegals certainly ain’t.

Is you jaw tired from sucking government cock yet?

Are you're doing is shitting up a thread over a topic you don't give a shit about to piss people off.