United States 2024: United States Senate Dicussion Thread

[Captain X]

Shame the drug gangs are basically in charge of so much of it.

 

[Sergeant Foley]

Its honestly amazing mexico is doing as well as it is, their geography is terrible, I mean the arable land is basically in pockets in scattered about highlands. This is where the best land is so people move there but it also means that Mexico has a hard time developing a naval tradition, it means that its hard to centralize power.

Meanwhile the us had the greatist navagable river system in the world with a great coastal system to boot, and for Mexico to project power to the north they had to pass a massive fucking desert that makes for a natural land boarder. This is the geography of a failed state and yet mexico is doing pretty well for itself dispite it all.

Mexico needs to grow a FUCKING backbone and seal the damn borders ASAP.

Plus they need to deport these damn illegal immigrants out of the country and tell the Triangle countries to get their shit together!

 

[History Learner]

California, New Mexico ask judge to block Trump from using military funds for border wall

California and New Mexico are asking a federal judge to permanently block President Trump from using military funds to build a border wall in those states.In a court filing on Thursday, attorneys f…

thehill.com

California Leads 16 States Suing to Block Trump Border Plan

California sued to block President Donald Trump from diverting funds from the federal budget to pay for his promised border wall, joined by more than a dozen states who say the move exceeds the power of his office.

www.bloomberg.com

Now, he ultimately won this case by going all the way to the supreme court(the first judgement agreed with him, the second didn't, then the supreme did), shown here: Supreme Court sides with Trump on building border wall with diverted military funds

But that was after a year of being stalled.

Doesn't that invalidate your previous contentions about the Courts and the Judges then, given they did side with him?

 

[strunkenwhite]

I agree, which is where my criticisms come in, in that he could get that big tax cut through but he couldn't get the border funding for four years? Etc.

Right, so if we consider that the Republican establishment was all in favor of the tax cuts, which passed, perhaps they weren't so hot on the border wall, which didn't. The GOP doesn't mind being tough on illegal immigrants (as individuals), but being too tough on illegal immigration would upset the precious status quo of certain business interests. Or, y'know, legitimate disagreements on efficacious ways to secure the border, crazy talk I know.

 

[History Learner]

Right, so if we consider that the Republican establishment was all in favor of the tax cuts, which passed, perhaps they weren't so hot on the border wall, which didn't. The GOP doesn't mind being tough on illegal immigrants (as individuals), but being too tough on illegal immigration would upset the precious status quo of certain business interests. Or, y'know, legitimate disagreements on efficacious ways to secure the border, crazy talk I know.

Which, again, takes me back to what I said earlier: Trump could've sought to primary them.

 

[Vyor]

Doesn't that invalidate your previous contentions about the Courts and the Judges then, given they did side with him?

Except that by the time they sided with him... his term was almost over.

 

[History Learner]

Except that by the time they sided with him... his term was almost over.

So why wasn't this done sooner? Again, he could've attempted it in Congress in early 2017. He could've attempted it with SCOTUS in late 2018, etc. You also avoided my question, because you previously dismissed his appointments as Establishment; why did they side with him if they were?

 

[Vyor]

So why wasn't this done sooner? Again, he could've attempted it in Congress in early 2017. He could've attempted it with SCOTUS in late 2018, etc. You also avoided my question, because you previously dismissed his appointments as Establishment; why did they side with him if they were?

Do you know how slow congress is?

 

[History Learner]

Do you know how slow congress is?

And if we re-elect him, do you think this will suddenly change? If so, how and why didn't he do this before?

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Its honestly amazing mexico is doing as well as it is, their geography is terrible, I mean the arable land is basically in pockets in scattered about highlands. This is where the best land is so people move there but it also means that Mexico has a hard time developing a naval tradition, it means that its hard to centralize power.

Meanwhile the us had the greatist navagable river system in the world with a great coastal system to boot, and for Mexico to project power to the north they had to pass a massive fucking desert that makes for a natural land boarder. This is the geography of a failed state and yet mexico is doing pretty well for itself dispite it all.

Oil basically and prior to that it had strategic value as a nation spanning meat shield against the Comanche and prior to that it had Cali and Texas not that it could project its power out there mind ye. On paper that made them a great power even if they couldn't do shit with that advantage.

 

[49ersfootball]

Let's be real, Mexico as a superpower was just cope from Santa Ana

What about Diaz, the longest-serving Mexican President ?

 

[49ersfootball]

Its honestly amazing mexico is doing as well as it is, their geography is terrible, I mean the arable land is basically in pockets in scattered about highlands. This is where the best land is so people move there but it also means that Mexico has a hard time developing a naval tradition, it means that its hard to centralize power.

Meanwhile the us had the greatist navagable river system in the world with a great coastal system to boot, and for Mexico to project power to the north they had to pass a massive fucking desert that makes for a natural land boarder. This is the geography of a failed state and yet mexico is doing pretty well for itself dispite it all.

The drug cartels upping the ante even further doesn't help.

 

[Bacle]

Yeah, seems like the situation in AZ is going to be even more fucky regarding the election results. If over 40% of sampled ballots come back as illegal, then the whole election, and all the outcomes from it, need to be invalidated and redone.

 

[Cherico]

Yeah, seems like the situation in AZ is going to be even more fucky regarding the election results. If over 40% of smapled ballots come back as illegal, then the whole election, and all the outcomes from it, need to be invalidated and redone.

yeah 10% is too much and this is once again obvious cheating.

 

[49ersfootball]

yeah 10% is too much and this is once again obvious cheating.

What's going on now ?

 

[Bacle]

What's going on now ?

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Court docs have come out in proceedings that show over 40% of sampled ballots (48 of 113) were illegal, printed on 20in paper when they were supposed to be printed on 19in, thus would cause the scanner to misread and reject the vote.

So there is a systemic level issue with the ballots that went out during the election and were used on election day, and no quality control caught it before the ballots went out or were used.

 

[Wargamer08]

Trending Politics News and Commentary

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Court docs have come out in proceedings that show over 40% of sampled ballots (48 of 113) were illegal, printed on 20in paper when they were supposed to be printed on 19in, thus would cause the scanner to misread and reject the vote.

So there is a systemic level issue with the ballots that went out during the election and were used on election day, and no quality control caught it before the ballots went out or were used.

If only there was a group or person in charge of this that could be blamed for the fuck up. Oh wait.

 

[Vyor]

Yeah, seems like the situation in AZ is going to be even more fucky regarding the election results. If over 40% of sampled ballots come back as illegal, then the whole election, and all the outcomes from it, need to be invalidated and redone.

Jesus fuck. Good luck denying that one. It's not the largest sample size, but it makes up for things with that absurd error rate. In order to get things to an acceptable level, the sample size would need to be twenty times that and for there to be the same number of bad ballots. And even that would be a high rate at 2%.

It isn't incontrovertible proof, but it's more than enough for Discovery to take place and Preliminary Relief hearings to begin.

I have no words for how obvious this was made, surely they could have done something more clever? Is this just them getting exceptionally sloppy?

 

[Cherico]

Jesus fuck. Good luck denying that one. It's not the largest sample size, but it makes up for things with that absurd error rate. In order to get things to an acceptable level, the sample size would need to be twenty times that and for there to be the same number of bad ballots. And even that would be a high rate at 2%.

It isn't incontrovertible proof, but it's more than enough for Discovery to take place and Preliminary Relief hearings to begin.

I have no words for how obvious this was made, surely they could have done something more clever? Is this just them getting exceptionally sloppy?

I think they got so used to people not fighting back and having the media in their corner that they have just gotten lazy.

 

[Bacle]