Planchar
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Yeah but this is very clearly an attempt to bring down DeSantis in a very public way. Not people talking shit to each other on message boards in relative anonymity and privacy
United States 2024: United States Senate Dicussion Thread
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Yep the only people playing up Desantis running in 2024 are the MSM and Desantis fanboys. He has made no statement or given any intention of doing anything other than being the Governor of Florida. Both Trump and Desantis know this.
I'll be honest, I like DeSantis. I really like the guy and what he's done and I believe he's the future of the Party going forward. But I want Trump to finish what he started first.
No I actually don't expect him to run. I just would prefer it if Trump didnt, and he did.
I think it's pretty clear that DeSantis is not going to go head to head with Trump, and is going to wait. He's outright said his only focus right now is being Governor in Florida. Yet Trump is still being a fucking retard and trying to take him down, because his ego can't stand the fact that another republican is becoming extremely popular. It's mind numbingly, monumentally stupid.
He's my preferred candidate for 2024, but I am aware I'll probably be waiting for 2028, for him to take out the democrat who beats Trump in 2024.
Sergeant Foley
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Boebert is likely winning. Big question is whether she seeks statewide office?
Sergeant Foley
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In other words: DeSantis has to wait until 2028.
Sergeant Foley
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What if Trump wins in 2024?
I don't think he will.
But I'll be voting for him in 2024, because I expect he will be the candidate.
Trump is a liability, and his ego and pettiness are not Dem lies, those are his own flaws.
Remember way back when you talked about how great this red wave was going to be and that I was just a black pill for doubting it.
Yeah, turns out maybe you are more out of touch with the feelings of the non-hardcore GOP base than you think, Spartan.
The GOP needs someone with Trump's populist politics, but not Trump's ego or pettiness; the America First movement must be able to move past Trump and become bigger than Trump, if it is to truly turn back the Dems insanity.
Trump started the America First movement, but the movement is bigger than him now, much bigger (to Trump's credit), and it needs to find younger blood, not let Trump become the end all, be all of the movement.
It'll be Biden, if Trump runs; Biden is going to run unless he drops dead.
The GOP need new blood to run in 2024, someone who can appeal to the Independents and Libertarian swing voters, not just the hardcore MAGA or GOP base.
Personally, I'd be focused on looking outside the party for new ideas, new talent, not at a pick between Trump or DeSantis or someone from the Old Boys club; DeSantis is more needed in Florida building a red bastion that can outlast insanity in DC.
From inside the GOP, only 2 really stand out that might be ok for 2024.
Zeldin out of NY might not be a bad pick; he didn't win, but his coattails helped flipped a bunch of blue seats, including Staten Island; Biden's and the Dem's fuckery might cause NY to go red in 2024, which would be a pain for the Dems.
Rand Paul would not be a horrible pick for 2024, if he was willing to go for it and open up the Senate seat for a Special election. However, he may be more useful where he is.
I do like Rand Paul a lot. He's a great option.
And Paul is someone the libertarians can stomach, as can most of the center, and most of the moderate Dems.
He much more well spoken than Biden or Trump, and could probably run rings around Biden in a debate, as well as being on the Intel committees, so he know all the dirt under the black redacting ink.
Vyor
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Who, exactly, do the dems have? Biden only won because the laptop story was buried, that won't work a second time. Kamala? Even more hated than Hillary. Beto? Don't make me laugh.
Biden has already said he's running.
I think you underestimate how much people hate Trump.
I'll vote for him and I'll hope he wins. A lot of people are going to be willing to vote for Biden, unless we have a catastrophic economic collapse or something like that...which I hope doesn't happen, because that'll suck.
I just don't think he will.
Vyor
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I hope you're right.
Ron Paul (Dad, sure, but a good jump off point) is actually one of the reasons I'm very wary of any attempt to push Trump out at this point: the bullshit pulled against him in the Romney election: he had no chance, but the Republican Establishment still felt the need to fix things for Romney.
If Trump were to be pushed out, the people in charge of it would be Mitch, not DeSantis: I don't think DeSantis really has any national infrastructure of his own at this point: he would be throwing himself at the mercy of Mitch and the Republican establishment.
Trump has some national infrastructure, and at this point if 2024 is not something the Republicans are actually well positioned to win, its more productive for Trump to burn out on that, and hopefully pull down a few more establishment types with him.
If nothing else, Mitch McConnell will be 82 in 2024, and 86 in 2028. If the next big serious election the Republicans have a good chance to win is 2028, Mitch Will be gone by that point one way or another, and if you can get Trump/American force people in now, you can replace that generation with people who will be more in line with the then 50 year old Ron DeSantis, which would be an ideal age, and he will be able to do much more with a more friendly GOP elite.
Maybe this is time to focus more on continuing the purges to get a unified enough party, rather than compromising to an attempted big tent?
You don't get less senile with age you only get more senile. And Biden is fucking Senile.
All indications pointed to the Red Wave. Everyone from Dem to Republican and the MSN knew it was coming. Or so everyone thought. That has turned out not to be the case. Some races are still in play despite fact the Election has been over with for 2 to 3 days. I'll skip your sniping and get to American first movement. Trump actually didn't start that. Populism has been on the rise for years. Long before Trump came into the picture. Remember the Tea Party? That was just one version of it. Trump was just the man who made it a reality when the Tea Party was destroyed from the inside by the Establishment Leadership. So Right Wing Populism has been around for a while now.
Trump still has my vote. But if he doesn't run and DeSantis does, then he would have my vote. But DeSantis has said clearly he isn't running in 2024. So unless that changes this is a moot point.
Planchar
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Doesn’t fucking matter they aren’t voting for Biden. They are voting against Trump