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Sorry, that's over the top. On the subject of Ukraine/Russia, I can beleve that he's got access to more info to me, and it's likely to be more accurate. But, that doesn't mean he's saying anything true to the People.

He's a profesional Poli. I wouldn't trust him if he said the ground was made of dirt.

That's true. But we're watching. I know a number of people who aren't. They don't care about the why, they just want it to stop. Can't say I blame them.

Maduk, if you're barely making ends meet, and multiple Gov agencies are making things worse for you, in various ways, and your kids school is a nightmare, and your friends are all on drugs, some legal, some not, you're not going to have much left for Ukraine. If you see that as a political...

Priorities. Others might just see their own border as more important than Ukraines? The general line is "If we could secure a border, and only one, let's make it ours?" There's also a few who point out that the money and equipment being sent to Ukraine could be used right here, to close...

So, 15-20 years. Yeah, a while.

Yup. I don't know about the Budapest Memorandum, but Russia has been saying that for years. It's also been saying other things, sure, but complaining about NATO expantion's not remotely new.

Ok! I don't agree, but that makes some sense! So, a disagreement on things, but we can at least talk, without more ranting. And, now, I don't want to talk about it anyway. Fuck, this shit's been annoying me, but now I hate it all. Fucking hell. Let's just see what Tucker does in terms...

And how do you fix that? I'll tell you what doesn't work. Threating to murder them for the crime of being born in a place. I think I'll try to put this another way. The reason why I listen to the Russian POV is because you cannot fix something, unless you understand where it's broken...

For Fucks sake, Bacle! They're humans, you moron! Stop your genocide boner, would you?!?

That's all true. I see Russia, under Putin, isn't on the US's side. So, they do things that they see as advantages their side, even if the US doesn't like it. Not good guys at all. (Not that I'm fond of a lot of US "elite") I just think if you're going to get involved, you have to do it...

Not that simple, but it'd be a general rule (with a few exceptions). It's by no means absolute.

I'm pretty sure Putin knows. I'm not so sure the rest of the oligarchs do, though. Well, until this war, of course. Now I'm thinking about it.... Not that I'm an expert, but I think the US should be making overtures to Russia, looking at finishing the war on the US's terms, and possibly...

That, I disagree with. Russia's not powerful enough to be a real rival. China is, and now Russia's forced to be their minion. Not the best way to do things.

I could see Putin thinking its a Russian Civil war, but not I. I mean, Ukraine has it's own language! Sure, it's related to Russian, but it's been it's own thing for over 200 years. Not the same people anymore. Cousins, at best.