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    Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

    So because China influences and suborns companies and affects our way of life, that means that we shouldn't be giving weapons to the Ukrainians. Yeah, uh, no. Because this is what I was getting at. You claim that China is a threat, and that Russia is not. Therefore we need to focus on China...
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    Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

    So China's a threat because China's big? No. That's wrong. Let's suppose that the ROC decided to retake the mainland, and by some miracle, somehow managed to pull it off without nukes. Or that the people of China had enough of Communist rule and overthrew the CCP. Would China still be a...
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    Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

    Why? What, precisely, makes China a threat and Russia not a threat?
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    Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

    Yes, let the guy who literally pulled a violent coup have a major seat in power right next to you, there is no possible way that such a plan could end up badly for you.
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    Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

    Realpolitik is a bitch? Okay, sure. Then the US will throw Russia out of Ukraine just because. We're strong, they're weak, we'll do it because we can. Or what, is Russia the only country that gets to use Realpolitik to justify its actions?
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    Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

    Containment is just a fancy word for balance of power, aka. the foreign policy idea that has been around for hundreds if not thousands of years. It's nothing all that crazy. Britain fought the Nazis, the Bourbons,, the Kaiser, and Napoleon because Britain understood that a united Europe would...
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    Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

    Was. Being invaded and dealing with Russia's famous generosity towards those it conquers tends to change things like that. Never mind your wording. You talk about "Eastern Ukraine" like it's half of the country, while the Donetsk and Luhansk regions are pretty small parts as anyone who looks...
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    Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

    False flag attacks on the scale you are thinking of don't exist.
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    Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

    You don't think you can't put a cost on dead civillians? Every military option out there kills civillians one way or the other. Even refusing to fight and surrendering wholesale to the Russians kills civillians. The question is whether the risks of cluster mines will outweigh the benefits one...
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    Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2

    The Ukrainians aren't worried about it, and they're the ones who will have to eat any long-term costs. So why should we worry about it?
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