Star Wars is a space fantasy/opera. If they don't want Kids in glorious combat they can enjoy a more milsim accurate setting like Warhammer 40k where there's a literal race of violent overachieving mentally ill leftist children with ray railguns.
Star Wars The Ahsoka Show
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Agent23
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There is a world of difference between a rag-tag loose confederation of insurgents and a frigging galactic government....Overall, I'm not inclined to go nitpicking. Stuff like random heroes just being generals despite not really being qualified at all goes back to RotJ, where Luke and Han both have serious officer ranks (Han even being a General). Note that Han hadn't even enlisted in the Rebellion at the start of ESB, and then spent the intervening period being frozen, so the guy literally goes from zero to General. I guess that just happens when you're a protagonist.
To quote RGE, "We a real company(gubrmint) now"!
And in the original EU, Han was a former Imperial officer and his smuggler skills came in handy.
And let us not forget the elephant in the room, namely that he:
1) Helped the rebels get the DS1 plans.
2) Saved Luke from destruction just as he was about to make the shot that took out the DS1 and saved the rebels asses.
3) Continued to aid them despite having a bounty on his head and also saved one of their leaders from the attack on Hoth.
Capital idea consider yourself officially blocked. Have a horrible day.You are the one claiming that garbage is watchable.
If you do not like it, you know where the mute button is.
Honestly: the big reason for it is that's Diana Inosanto. She's not just a "do my own stunts" Hollywood actress, she's pretty much the most serious martial artist involved in movies in our generation. As in, she's Bruce Lee's goddaughter, and she was trained by her father who was one of Lee's personal students and went on to become a legendary grandmaster in his own right.
You don't cast someone with that skillset and not use it, especially since her character already appears in The Mandalorian and was established to be a skilled hand-to-hand fighter.
. . . You do know that Toruga first appeared in Star Wars: Attack of the Clones via Shaak Ti in 2002, long before any of the cartoon series?
Err... of all the characters to have that rank, Hera perhaps actually has the ACTUAL career in the Rebellion to earn it? She led the Ghost Squadron of the Rebel Alliance from its inception to their liberation of Lothal, then after that she joined the core Rebel Alliance and fought in the Battle of Scarif*. It seems likely that after the fall of the Yavin 4 base, she ended up in a different Rebel cell than Luke et all, since it was stated explicitly in the Empire Strikes Back that the Rebels scattered to multiple bases to hide after Yavin fell, with the Hoth base being just one of multiple.
The only reason she wasn't at the Battle of Endor is because she's a later addition out of universe to being a member of the Rebel Alliance, but she fits in canon well given the size and scale of the Rebels and that we only see some small snippets of their activities in the movies.
As to why she took her son on the mission... where else would she leave him? His father is dead, sacrificing himself to save Hera and others in the Ghost Squad from being killed by the Empire on Lothal, and it likely became habitual to have him around during the Rebellion since, well, she was a high enough profile Rebel (and her son was Force Sensitive) that he would have been a target for capture by the Empire. Also, the only time we see her take him with her in Ashoka is when she was going off the reservation, in other words, the only time she took him with her was when he could have been used against her by the Republic. All the other times we see her travelling around, she's left him behind on the Republic's flagship she works out of.
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* There were multiple references to her in Rogue One, she was paged over the comms at the Rebel Base, Chopper makes a cameo in the background, and her personal ship, the Ghost, part of the fleet at the Battle of Scarif.
Per the end of Rebels season 4, the Ghost did fight at Endor, and some comics/animated stuff have Hera forcing Han to admit the Ghost is better than the Falcon while helping Ewoks rebuild after the battle.
The Ghost wasn't in RotJ, but is canon to have been at Endor in the current continuity.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
Call it what you want, but it is canon, and frankly the Ghost is a better ship than the Falcon in almost every way.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
We’re attaining new levels of cringe here, boys. The Ghost is not better than the Millennium Falcon, and I will challenge any fuckwit who says otherwise to Holmgang.
I'll take that fight.
The Falcon is a good and fast smuggling ship, but is breaking down rather often because Han used so many differently sourced parts.
The Ghost is/was a mobile rebel base, transport, attack craft, recon asset, and had it's own parasite fighter/shuttle, all long before Han came to the Alliance.
The Falcon is iconic, but in terms of the hard facts of the ships and what they could do/did do, Ghost is more capable and more useful.
Simonbob
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As somebody who's never seen any of that stuff, I'll give that a single nostalgia point. It makes it harder to take it seriously.
Oh, I think they could have made that whole thing work better. Hera showing a bit of age, she's a mom, and it's, what, 5-10 years after the Empire fell? How old was she then? Also, she never changes her clothing. For crying out loud, she's telling off Senators in that leather jacket!
Just having her dress in a uniform with some stuff on the front to represent medals when it's reasonable would help, as would "Ah, I'm just on holiday visting an old friend." at the right time......
And why is it a General can stick their nose into random Corpo's company, anyway? Does the New Republic have any real laws?
Suspension of Disbelief broken. I think they could have made it much better, with a few small things, but they didn't. Jedi and General turn up to check on the salvage, he says no and Hera says "I know a few people in intel/procurement, and it's not like we're here for you." It's just like.... General seems to be rank in Gov, but for pretty much everything. There's a murder, we need investigated! Send a general. Pirates? General. Inspecting a factory? General. Do they have anybody who leads troops in combat? I wonder.
If she just brought minions to do much of that, I'd buy that. Being a intel general is another possiblity, not perfect, but still.
There's a bunch of this stuff running through Ahsoka. It just means it doesn't hold together well, for anything but kids. The Mandalorian had a similar problem, where if you were a major figure, you could fight, whether it made much sense or not.
Agent23
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I am referring to her canon breaking status as Anakin's apprentice.
And I can't say I cared that much for discount Twi'leks or minor prequels characters, either.
KilroywasNOTHere
"BEEP!"
What's so bad about Thor
Yeah I didn't watch any lore or related videos while gawking at this show. But I checked out Eckharts and Thor Skywalker's short takes on the finale and the whole deal.
Both seemed to think the finale didn't quite land though Thor was more critical. But Thor also praised the middle episodes and said he defended them from, and I quote "memberries" arguments.
Both seemed to think the finale didn't quite land though Thor was more critical. But Thor also praised the middle episodes and said he defended them from, and I quote "memberries" arguments.
Crom's Black Blade
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I'd have to agree. Just from a story perspective I don't like the whole taking something beloved and established to a franchise and throwing it under the bus to make your own personal character "cooler".
Agent23
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No idea what they is, but it sounds like yet another attempt to push in a genderqueer otherkin waminz of color who is "the bestest ever" in as a replacement for a beloved, developed and established character, "because the soyfucks in the wiritng room decided it is so".
The fuck is Holmgang?
I'd make them suffer through a 48 hour Aziz concert, but knowing soyfucks and mindless cumsoomers, they would probably like it cause of "muh diversity" and "muh LGBTQA++-*!@√×÷£%~KFCMac&Cheese"
Me and him got into an argument. And let's just say he is very much a jackass. He pretends to be a chill dude but is not.
I think technically the Falcon may have more guns?
Seriously, do you have any purpose in this thread besides displaying your utter ignorance of what's being discussed and just reposting hot takes that reinforce your predetermined opinions?
. . . Firstly, Hera is canonically straight, FFS she had a kid with a white human male who also was consistently portrayed as a reliable and competent authority figure and leader and not just some pushover. Just because some of the bullshit that has happened does not axiomatically make everything they've done woke. Second, since when did Green Alien Space Babes become "women of color", thirdly, while one can make an argument the Ghost is a better ship than the Falcon for certain jobs, there's also jobs the Falcon would be better for. Fourthly, this argument never happened in any of the TV shows, rather it was a comic, so there was no writing room nor was it something that was pushed out beyond whatever miniscule group read those comics. Fifthly, giving people shit about their ride and ribbing each other over it harkens back to longstanding tradition for people who care about their rides and such especially among the "hotshot pilot" tropes that both Hera and Solo draw from.
Seriously, do you have any purpose in this thread besides displaying your utter ignorance of what's being discussed and just reposting hot takes that reinforce your predetermined opinions?
Agent23
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How about:
Fully justified, righteous indignation that the Disney hacks are trying to destroy my childhood!
Fully justified, righteous indignation that the Disney hacks are pushing more woke garbage/waminz stronk and bestest ever.
Fully justified, righteous indignation that the Disney hacks have turned great characters like Thrawn into a joke.
Fully justified, righteous indignation that the Disney hacks are fucking over canon with the way they treat the force as just some stupid and I consistent plot device, like frigging magic from a cheap fantasy flick.
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