WolfBear

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Trump's endorsement works great in GOP primaries.

That is not assured to translate to the general election though, as frankly outside the GOP base leaning on Trump endorsements is not all that useful.

Too many sheep buy too many of the lies, and Trump's own ego/pride/need to view 'any publicity as good publicity' turns people off to him. It worked as a private business tycoon in NYC; it's less useful among the general populace in electoral matters.
 

Sergeant Foley

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Is he the one who said minorities were to blame for all of the violent crime?
 

strunkenwhite

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We need more than one, to counter the RINOs like Mitt Romney.
That's fair, depending on what things are being considered. Manchin was a problem for Democrats in some things, but not in others.
Plus they have to hold onto Ohio, Pennsylvania and North Carolina.
Don't forget Wisconsin. Despite not being an open seat it seems just about as closely contested. Although it's one of the states where polling is more likely to be off, as I recall.
 

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Dems have won Alaska's only House seat in a special election. The seat is subject to the Nov 8th election for re-election, but it is unlikely that the seat will be flipped back to the GOP at that point, if the special election already went to the Dems.
 

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Dems have won Alaska's only House seat in a special election. The seat is subject to the Nov 8th election for re-election, but it is unlikely that the seat will be flipped back to the GOP at that point, if the special election already went to the Dems.

The special election was a cheat.
 

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Dems have won Alaska's only House seat in a special election. The seat is subject to the Nov 8th election for re-election, but it is unlikely that the seat will be flipped back to the GOP at that point, if the special election already went to the Dems.
Knew there was a 99% chance this would happen. California's been using a similar trick (jungle primaries) to ensure Feinstein and Harris didn't even have to face a Republican in their last couple Senatorial elections there, plus they've got ranked-choice voting in their most pozzed cities (San Fran, Berkeley). Maine's been using ranked-choice to ensure Democrats prevail more often and that when they can't, the state will never go further right than Susan Collins, as well. Mash them together on a statewide level and what do you get? A thousand-year Murkowski dynasty and Democrats winning until either Alaskan voters wise up & return to one-man-one-vote, or the stars burn out. Note that Palin would have won on the first ballot, before all the anti-Palin voters were given additional chances to consolidate their votes behind anyone but her in the next rounds of vote-counting. Tshibaka too had a much stronger chance at sinking Murkowski in a normal Republican primary, as opposed to the open one which has allowed Murkowski to go into November with a fairly commanding lead and a very good chance at winning without even needing to run a write-in campaign this time.

As a Canadian I can tell you with 100% certainty, our Tories use ranked-choice primary voting to ensure the establishment always gets their 'consensus' candidate in the end. It's how we missed out on Mad Max Bernier in 2017 while a(n almost literal) milksop, Andrew Scheer, got the leadership position instead and promptly blew the next election. Additional fuckery granting 'points' to candidates based on how many voters live in each province was used to screw all the remotely anti-establishment candidates out of the 2020 race, even though one of them (social conservative Leslyn Lewis) was actually straight up leading on the second ballot.

Forget all the propaganda 'nonpartisan electoral reform organizations' like FairVote (who want to institute a national popular vote system, ie. abolish the Electoral College) pushes. The actual results of any bullshit that further complicates voting beyond the simple one-man-one-vote + closed primary baseline is now so obvious as to be undeniable: Democrats and RINOs will become your only options and 'extremists' (that is, anyone who isn't willing to become a puppet of either arm of the establishment) will be eternally sidelined.
 

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The special election was a cheat.
No, it was what the people in Alaska wanted; this is the flip side of allowing states their own electoral rules.

Because they can chose to go away from 'first past the post' and into ranked choice, if they tell their state legislature to do so.

Also, the idea that Alaska is a hard-R place is mostly out of date; the major cities are more and more blue, and rural Alaska has even fewer people spread out over more land than the emptiest part of the Lower 48. The natives have a lot of power in AK, because they have native corporations, not tribal reservations, and tend to lean blue among the youth from what I've seen.

At best Alaska is a deep purple state, and the GOP shouldn't expect more than RINO's or Dems to come out of it anymore.
Knew there was a 99% chance this would happen. California's been using a similar trick (jungle primaries) to ensure Feinstein and Harris didn't even have to face a Republican in their last couple Senatorial elections there, plus they've got ranked-choice voting in their most pozzed cities (San Fran, Berkeley). Maine's been using ranked-choice to ensure Democrats prevail more often and that when they can't, the state will never go further right than Susan Collins, as well. Mash them together on a statewide level and what do you get? A thousand-year Murkowski dynasty and Democrats winning until either Alaskan voters wise up & return to one-man-one-vote, or the stars burn out. Note that Palin would have won on the first ballot, before all the anti-Palin voters were given additional chances to consolidate their votes behind anyone but her in the next rounds of vote-counting. Tshibaka too had a much stronger chance at sinking Murkowski in a normal Republican primary, as opposed to the open one which has allowed Murkowski to go into November with a fairly commanding lead and a very good chance at winning without even needing to run a write-in campaign this time.

As a Canadian I can tell you with 100% certainty, our Tories use ranked-choice primary voting to ensure the establishment always gets their 'consensus' candidate in the end. It's how we missed out on Mad Max Bernier in 2017 while a(n almost literal) milksop, Andrew Scheer, got the leadership position instead and promptly blew the next election. Additional fuckery granting 'points' to candidates based on how many voters live in each province was used to screw all the remotely anti-establishment candidates out of the 2020 race, even though one of them (social conservative Leslyn Lewis) was actually straight up leading on the second ballot.

Forget all the propaganda 'nonpartisan electoral reform organizations' like FairVote (who want to institute a national popular vote system, ie. abolish the Electoral College) pushes. The actual results of any bullshit that further complicates voting beyond the simple one-man-one-vote + closed primary baseline is now so obvious as to be undeniable: Democrats and RINOs will become your only options and 'extremists' (that is, anyone who isn't willing to become a puppet of either arm of the establishment) will be eternally sidelined.
Ranked choice voting is something that Alaskan's chose for themselves, not something forced on them, and the idea Alaska was solid Red is long out of date.
 

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Honestly I maintain the more purple stuff is the better overall in terms of goverance especially at the local and state level. Means that moderates are more likely to be elected and that people aren't as likely to spend a Eternity in office
 

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