Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

Arch Dornan said:
Was it the same guy who made a simulation of nukes being launched at the UK?
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Pretty close.

Bear Ribs said:
So... this feels like a major escalation.

www.thesun.co.uk

Russia threatens to strike targets in Britain over UK weapons in Ukraine

RUSSIA has threatened to strike military targets in the UK after Britain supplied weapons to Ukraine. Russian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said the hits could be authorised against…
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nypost.com

Russian state TV threatens to wipe out ‘boorish’ UK with ballistic missile

Russian state TV host Vladimir Solovyov threatened the annihilation of the United Kingdom on Wednesday with the Sarmat, Russia’s newest ballistic missile.
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With Britain Wiped out by a Nuclear Tsunami and Germany Disarmed it should help Further the Disproportionate Amount of Power Russia had over NATO in military powah!
 
Marduk said:
Let's put it this way. Argentine's navy is so bankrupt that their only active ships are 9 corvettes armed with 4 Exocets and no missile AA, 3 destroyers with 8 Exocets each, a bunch of patrol vessels unsuitable for a war, and a few support ships that could deploy a token force of marines.
Meanwhile RN, in frigates alone, has 12 ships with 8 Harpoons each and proper AA system.
And then there are the destroyers, nuclear submarines and carriers.
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Then they need to be really occupied by a major power for the Falklands to ever be vulnerable.
 
gral said:
I wouldn't wish Argentina on nearly anyone.
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If you misunderstood what I meant was not Argentina being occupied but the RN distracted by something back home or a major power so Argentina would make a jab at the Falklands again if they feel so bold.
 
Arch Dornan said:
If you misunderstood what I meant was not Argentina being occupied but the RN distracted by something back home or a major power so Argentina would make a jab at the Falklands again if they feel so bold.
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After the major role the UK had in the whole Ukraine mess I think that the Russians will be more than happy to stage large-scale naval maneuvers near the UK coast while supplying some of their latest anti-ship missiles to Argentina.
Oh, and let us not forget that the UK is fucked economically and politically for the foreseeable future.
I mean, who would have guessed that a country heavily dependant on financial services might need a reputation for following rules and keeping politics out of business and banking.
Anyways, can we get back on topic?
 
Agent23 said:
I think that the Russians will be more than happy to stage large-scale naval maneuvers near the UK coast while supplying some of their latest anti-ship missiles to Argentina.
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Probably not going to happen. They are shooting their wad at Ukraine. I seriously doubt that Russia will go supplying other powers with weapons that Russia needs.
 
The Whispering Monk said:
Probably not going to happen. They are shooting their wad at Ukraine. I seriously doubt that Russia will go supplying other powers with weapons that Russia needs.
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What wad?
You do realize that we've had the MSM claim that they would be out of fuel and ammo in a few days or a week months ago, right?

There was also a nice analysis from some UK royal military institute going into how Russia has shot the equivalent of the USA's 4 year plus production of missiles in a few months, with no signs of their arsenals going dry.
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cruise missiles and theatre ballistic missiles is just as massive. The Russians have fired between 1,100 and 2,100 missiles. The US currently purchases 110 PRISM, 500 JASSM and 60 Tomahawk cruise missiles annually, meaning that in three months of combat, Russia has burned through four times the US annual missile production.
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@Agent23
You listened to the MSM for Intel? That was your 1st mistake.

The Russians are definitely light on precision munitions. You can tell by how well the Russkies are hitting their targets.

They can still shoot, but the pacing has REALLY gone down.
 
Agent23 said:
Why don't you take a look at the link I provided.
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Probably b/c I don't see any link in your post.

EDIT: now that I've spotted the link...what's the point. It just merely states that most countries don't have the large scale production in place that war requires. Umm...that's nothing new. No warfighter who's looked at US production, and is being truthful, thought we were ready for full scale war.

So...what does that link have to really do with my statement that Russia has pretty well gone through its precision munitions?
 
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The Whispering Monk said:
Probably b/c I don't see any link in your post.
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Agent23 said:
And the UK is a shithole.
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The UK actually has some of the best geography in europe.

Its near oil resources, faces the international ocean, has a temperate climate is able to grow its own food and is seperation from the european high way of death and distruction by a moat. Yes they are currently led by morons but so is every western country right now. The UK is in for a rough time (every one is) but the people there will survive.
 
Cherico said:
The UK actually has some of the best geography in europe.

Its near oil resources, faces the international ocean, has a temperate climate is able to grow its own food and is seperation from the european high way of death and distruction by a moat. Yes they are currently led by morons but so is every western country right now. The UK is in for a rough time (every one is) but the people there will survive.
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Temperate climate?
You mean non stop cold rain?
I have been to London on business, that Empire of theirs, was Climate Refugee Exodus.

They have totaled their industries,they constantly import 3rd world religious zealots that suck up their resources and rape and kill their actually productive citizens, they are no longer able to feed themselves and import most of their foodstuffs, and they have a bunch of separatists in the north.
Mass Obesity, politically correct shit tier education for the majority of the populace, services and finance dependant economy, yeah, no!
 
Agent23 said:
Temperate climate?
You mean non stop cold rain?
I have been to London on business, that Empire of theirs, was Climate Refugee Exodus.

They have totaled their industries,they constantly import 3rd world religious zealots that suck up their resources and rape and kill their actually productive citizens, they are no longer able to feed themselves and import most of their foodstuffs, and they have a bunch of separatists in the north.
Mass Obesity, politically correct shit tier education for the majority of the populace, services and finance dependant economy, yeah, no!
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their in for a likely civil war/revolution yes.

But the foundations of the country are actually pretty good, compare that to polands geography where your basically in the danger zone.
 
Agent23 said:
What wad?
You do realize that we've had the MSM claim that they would be out of fuel and ammo in a few days or a week months ago, right?

There was also a nice analysis from some UK royal military institute going into how Russia has shot the equivalent of the USA's 4 year plus production of missiles in a few months, with no signs of their arsenals going dry.
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Do you understand that 'peacetime production' and 'wartime production' are different things?

Do you understand that if you compare how much ammunition Russia has fired off to their own munition production, you're going to get similar or worse numbers out of it?
 


Chief of the General Staff Speech at RUSI Land Warfare Conference

The scale of the war in Ukraine is unprecedented. 103 Battalion Tactical Groups committed. Up to 33,000 Russians dead, wounded, missing or captured. A casualty rate of up to 200 per day amongst the Ukrainian defenders. 77,000 square kilometres of territory seized – 43% of the total landmass of the Baltic states. Ammunition expenditure rates that would exhaust the combined stockpiles of several NATO countries in a matter of days. The deliberate targeting of civilians with 4,700 civilian dead. 8 million refugees. For us, the visceral nature of a European land war is not just some manifestation of distant storm clouds on the horizon; we can see it now.​
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CNN also recently revealed the most recent U.S. assessment:

Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov has said he believes tens of thousands of Ukrainians have been killed since the Russian invasion of Ukraine on February 24.​
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Speaking to CNN's Matthew Chance in an exclusive interview, Reznikov refused to give exact figures of Ukrainian losses, but he said he "hopes" the figure is below 100,000.​
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Reznikov said he disagreed with the most recent US assessment that 16,000 Russian soldiers have been killed since the invasion, saying he believes their casualty numbers to be considerably higher.​
 


Chief of the General Staff Speech at RUSI Land Warfare Conference

The scale of the war in Ukraine is unprecedented. 103 Battalion Tactical Groups committed. Up to 33,000 Russians dead, wounded, missing or captured. A casualty rate of up to 200 per day amongst the Ukrainian defenders. 77,000 square kilometres of territory seized – 43% of the total landmass of the Baltic states. Ammunition expenditure rates that would exhaust the combined stockpiles of several NATO countries in a matter of days. The deliberate targeting of civilians with 4,700 civilian dead. 8 million refugees. For us, the visceral nature of a European land war is not just some manifestation of distant storm clouds on the horizon; we can see it now.​

CNN also recently revealed the most recent U.S. assessment:

Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov has said he believes tens of thousands of Ukrainians have been killed since the Russian invasion of Ukraine on February 24.​
​
Speaking to CNN's Matthew Chance in an exclusive interview, Reznikov refused to give exact figures of Ukrainian losses, but he said he "hopes" the figure is below 100,000.​
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Reznikov said he disagreed with the most recent US assessment that 16,000 Russian soldiers have been killed since the invasion, saying he believes their casualty numbers to be considerably higher.​
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Exactly tracks with my estimates from a month ago. The fact the Ukrainian Defense Minister is also hoping their casualties are under 100,000 at this point should be telling.
 
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