Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

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Ukrainian city of Severodonetsk now 'completely under Russian occupation' after months of fighting | CNN

The eastern Ukrainian city of Severodonetsk is "completely under Russian occupation," the city's head of military administration said Saturday, following months of grueling and bloody fighting.
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www.reuters.com

Sievierodonetsk falls to Russia after one of war's bloodiest fights

Russian forces fully occupied the eastern Ukrainian city of Sievierodonetsk on Saturday, both sides said, confirming Kyiv's biggest battlefield setback for more than a month following weeks of some of the war's bloodiest fighting.
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Husky_Khan said:
Ukraine was a Southern Feint.

Operation Bagration 2.0 is going to sweep through the Baltics any day now.

Good luck stopping the Russian juggernaut without any Javelin missiles and four less HIMARs NATO. 👋
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If a Baltic attack will come, it will almost certainly come through the Suwalki Corridor:

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Lithuania should have gotten Kaliningrad Oblast after WWII, frankly, but this would have been unfair to Russia, who sacrificed much more in WWII in total numbers relative to Lithuania.
 
WolfBear said:
If a Baltic attack will come, it will almost certainly come through the Suwalki Corridor:

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Lithuania should have gotten Kaliningrad Oblast after WWII, frankly, but this would have been unfair to Russia, who sacrificed much more in WWII in total numbers relative to Lithuania.
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It should get to Poland,they were our vassals once.And Russia sacificied nothing during WW2,becouse do not existed.Soviets did,and they was sacrifised by their idiot commanders.
 
Husky_Khan said:
Ukraine was a Southern Feint.

Operation Bagration 2.0 is going to sweep through the Baltics any day now.

Good luck stopping the Russian juggernaut without any Javelin missiles and four less HIMARs NATO. 👋
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You forget army of invecible apemans created in soviet laboratories.
 
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Arch Dornan said:
www.nytimes.com

Commando Network Coordinates Flow of Weapons in Ukraine, Officials Say (Published 2022)

A secretive operation involving U.S. Special Operations forces hints at the scale of the effort to assist Ukraine’s still outgunned military.
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Russian bias or just an obvious observation when you play the proxy war?
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Clickbait title about things that were obvious to any particularly smart Tom Clancy style book reader.
Much of this work happens outside Ukraine, at bases in Germany, France and Britain, for example. But even as the Biden administration has declared it will not deploy American troops to Ukraine, some C.I.A.
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So basically, they are giving advice from away. Obviously they aren't deployed to Ukraine if they can do it from Germany.
personnel have continued to operate in the country secretly, mostly in the capital, Kyiv, directing much of the vast amounts of intelligence the United States is sharing with Ukrainian forces, according to current and former officials.
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>in Kyiv.
So basically people in suits hanging around government offices taking calls and giving advice to the right people. Otherwise known as diplomats.

At the same time, a few dozen commandos from other NATO countries, including Britain, France, Canada and Lithuania, also have been working inside Ukraine. The United States withdrew its own 150 military instructors before the war began in February, but commandos from these allies either remained or have gone in and out of the country since then, training and advising Ukrainian troops and providing an on-the-ground conduit for weapons and other aid, three U.S. officials said.
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That's the spiciest part, but lacking details to say how spicy it really is. For example one thing they may be doing is hanging around the western border and interior away from frontlines, essentially at near zero risk of death or capture, helping camouflage western supply shipments and otherwise make it harder for Russia to hit them on the way to the frontline. Considering the non-combat nature of such work, they could even be in Ukraine undercover as civilians.
 
Marduk said:
Clickbait title about things that were obvious to any particularly smart Tom Clancy style book reader.

So basically, they are giving advice from away. Obviously they aren't deployed to Ukraine if they can do it from Germany.

>in Kyiv.
So basically people in suits hanging around government offices taking calls and giving advice to the right people. Otherwise known as diplomats.


That's the spiciest part, but lacking details to say how spicy it really is. For example one thing they may be doing is hanging around the western border and interior away from frontlines, essentially at near zero risk of death or capture, helping camouflage western supply shipments and otherwise make it harder for Russia to hit them on the way to the frontline. Considering the non-combat nature of such work, they could even be in Ukraine undercover as civilians.
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So a proxy war.

Wherever the CIA goes they use diplomats through their embassies.
 
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Marduk said:
Iran is who Russia has taken the title of the most sanctioned country in the world from.
And Argentina, well, it's not like they are famous for their great economy and relations with the west.
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Arch Dornan said:
Iran's going to try and bypass that with some new trade corridor. If Russia doesn't get buck broken they might get it working.

Argentina meanwhile like the rest of South America's trying to find that opportunity to find a way to get things better for themselves.
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If Argentina decides to do something stupid about the Falkland's again, the Royal Navy would holler for joy at being able to smack them again.
 
Bacle said:
If Argentina decides to do something stupid about the Falkland's again, the Royal Navy would holler for joy at being able to smack them again.
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Unfortunately as time passes I don't think even the Royal navy's up for it but the same could be said for Argentina.
 
Arch Dornan said:
Unfortunately as time passes I don't think even the Royal navy's up for it but the same could be said for Argentina.
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The RN is about the only military force that the British have put much money in for years, and those new QE carriers would probably love to get a chance to do some live-fire exercise against the Argentines.

Where as Argentina..is in even worse shape than before, and don't really have anything that could truly threaten the Brits outside some of their dumb-fire US WW2 era torps, and trying to get a kill with one of those in modern times would be damn near impossible.
 
Bacle said:
The RN is about the only military force that the British have put much money in for years, and those new QE carriers would probably love to get a chance to do some live-fire exercise against the Argentines.

Where as Argentina..is in even worse shape than before, and don't really have anything that could truly threaten the Brits outside some of their dumb-fire US WW2 era torps, and trying to get a kill with one of those in modern times would be damn near impossible.
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Provided the path to the Falklands is still clear or nothing keeps the RN occupied.
 
Arch Dornan said:
Provided the path to the Falklands is still clear or nothing keeps the RN occupied.
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Let's put it this way. Argentine's navy is so bankrupt that their only active ships are 9 corvettes armed with 4 Exocets and no missile AA, 3 destroyers with 8 Exocets each, a bunch of patrol vessels unsuitable for a war, and a few support ships that could deploy a token force of marines.
Meanwhile RN, in frigates alone, has 12 ships with 8 Harpoons each and proper AA system.
And then there are the destroyers, nuclear submarines and carriers.
 
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