sillygoose
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More like the western personnel that are likely leading them.You mean surrender of Azov who has been told by the Ruskies that they will not take it and kill on sight?
More like the western personnel that are likely leading them.You mean surrender of Azov who has been told by the Ruskies that they will not take it and kill on sight?
Uh...there are no Western Personnel leading them...More like the western personnel that are likely leading them.
We'll see. There are already been several non-Ukrainians captured by the Russians.Uh...there are no Western Personnel leading them...
Yeah, like that alleged Canadian general that got into some convenient sexual harassment nonsense then disappeared, only to turn up in Azovstal.We'll see. There are already been several non-Ukrainians captured by the Russians.
To be fair we haven't gotten actual confirmation or pictures of this Canadian general. I'm talking about the soldiers from Britain and Croatia who have been interviewed in Russian captivity.Yeah, like that alleged Canadian general that got into some convenient sexual harassment nonsense then disappeared, only to turn up in Azovstal.
As to its capitulation, well, at some point their ammo, food and water will run out.
So unless they plan to repel the Chechens with sticks and stones and have a desire to drink blood and urine and a taste for long pig, well...
Yeah, that is why I am saying allegedly.To be fair we haven't gotten actual confirmation or pictures of this Canadian general. I'm talking about the soldiers from Britain and Croatia who have been interviewed in Russian captivity.
Seems fairly obvious at this juncture that the "War in the Donbass" is a feint to fix Ukrainian troops in place for the real offensive. If Russia wanted to steamroll the Ukrainians in the Donbass they could but their goal is to grind them down.
Keep in mind the Spring Mud will dry soon and then the Russians will launch their true offensive... Towards Odessa as has always been the goal. They don't care about the Donbass. All of the signs point to a Odessa offensive to link up with Transnistria and that arid terrain.
What's amazing about Deep Battle Doctrine of Russia is that even if that stalls... Which it won't, but hypothetically if it did, that too is a feint for the real objective... Which always was the Left Hook from Belarus down into Northwestern Ukraine.
Keep in mind Belarusian forces are untouched and with the Ukrainians distracted in the South and East they won't be able to move whatever troop remnants are left on devastated infrastructure to Northwestern Ukraine in time because of the forests and swamps... Which also means Ukraine won't defend that area as well due to terrain. But we've seen in the Winter War that trees and swamps won't stop Russian forces!
This the Russian forces will sweep in from the North, take over Western Ukraine and then do what is known as an operational pause for the real strike.
With Polish and German and NO ATO stocks depleted and critical gaps in air defense forward deployed into Eastern Europe, Russia will formally declare War on Ukraine as a cover to mobilize fully but instead of mopping up Ukraine, use those forces to sweep into Poland and the Baltics, taking out S300 and forward deployed Patriot Batteries in opening barrages. Warsaw in a week. Berlin in a Month.
Suck my Tefteli.
If you mean people who left thier countries to fight perhaps. If you mean western soldiers? No.We'll see. There are already been several non-Ukrainians captured by the Russians.
And if you commit war crimes on a NATO general you sre offering for more then US intelligence helping destroy one of your ships.Yeah, that is why I am saying allegedly.
But personally if I had such a prize catch as a top Canadian general I'd put him under wraps and sweat him out for any and all intel.
That's exactly why I press X to doubt any time I see Russia claim Ukrainian's surrendered to them...You mean surrender of Azov who has been told by the Ruskies that they will not take it and kill on sight?
And how many times have they killed prisoners??That's exactly why I press X to doubt any time I see Russia claim Ukrainian's surrendered to them...
The reason you don't do what Russia is doing in war is because you want the enemy to treat surrender as an actual option. Because the other option is fighting to the end. And fighting to the end massively increases the number of troops you actually need to capture a territory.
Speaking of which, there was no excuse for not telling their troops where they were; those poor bastards who dug in the Red Forest probably had maps from the 70's, before the explosion.
Time told that long ago.Time will tell.
Yes.
Including a certain Canadian general:
Conveniently resigned on April 5th from Canadian forces, but was absent since February.
This guy is also said to be in Ukraine at Azovstal and was in Ukraine as part of US army duties training the Ukrainians pre-war:
A DEEPENING PARTNERSHIP WITH UKRAINES LAND FORCES
KYIV – From March 10-12, 2021, NATO Allied Land Command’s commander, Lieutenant General Roger Cloutier, held key engagements with several Ukrainian military and government leaders to build on a partnership initiative that began in September, 2018. At the time, then commander U.S. Army...lc.nato.int
The only 'proof of life' from him so far since the war started is a linkdin post. No pics or video.
Unlikely why? Because it is inconvenient to the narrative you prefer?There is speculation he is in Azovstal. Unlikely.
He was at the start of the war and only resigned April 5th. No one has heard anything from him and there is an outstanding sexual assault case against him yet he was able to leave the country and head to Ukraine? Really shady stuff there.Dude is also not current Canadian military
I mean you do know how easy it is to still he able to take leave and stuff with investigations going on?Unlikely why? Because it is inconvenient to the narrative you prefer?
He was at the start of the war and only resigned April 5th. No one has heard anything from him and there is an outstanding sexual assault case against him yet he was able to leave the country and head to Ukraine? Really shady stuff there.
And immediately head to Ukraine per Canadian news? Nah. He didn't take leave, he resigned and immediately went to Ukraine.I mean you do know how easy it is to still he able to take leave and stuff with investigations going on?
Because they were directing operations and the Ukrainains/NATO fucked up hard.And why would any western personnel be in Mariupol where they know they would the first in the invasion if the west thought it was going to be overrun within days
....again why would they be in the WORST possible spot to be in. Kiev would make sense. NOT MARIUPOL.And immediately head to Ukraine per Canadian news? Nah. He didn't take leave, he resigned and immediately went to Ukraine.
Because they were directing operations and the Ukrainains/NATO fucked up hard.