Leftist Child Grooming

Captain X said:

I feel like we could use a thread to collate stories like this:



You know, just the obsession leftists have with grooming children as young as pre-schoolers with topics like sex kinks.

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This has been going on for decades and the fact it's just now getting attention should speak volumes about how bad it has gotten, in terms of being an entrenched ideology. Remember the "Satanist Panic" of the 1980s? Friendly reminder five of the preschool children involved at one of the establishments were found to have contracted chlamydia.

At this point I'm wondering when the west collectively snaps

Cherico said:

At this point I'm wondering when the west collectively snaps

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I'm guessing 2024.

LordsFire said:

Some of the article is behind a wall, but what I did get to was as bizarre as you'd expect.

"What is heterosexual grooming?

It’s a set of practices and expectations based on a child’s assigned gender at birth, which promotes the formation of a romantic and possessive relationship between “opposite sex” children and their parents. As soon as these straight parents find out if they have a “penis baby” or a “vagina baby,” they seem to be obsessed with the idea of a romantic bond forming with the parent who has a different set of genitals than the baby"


Yeah. This person is not of healthy mind.

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Apologies for the double post, but this really bothers me. Does anyone else remember that Gay Marriage was legalized on the basis that being homosexual was an "inherent characteristic" IE people were born that way and that its impossible to change someones sexual preferences?

Yet in the last five to six years the Left has moved from homosexuality being an inherent trait, to it being a choice, which absolutely flies in the face of all their arguments from the 90s to mid 00s, and what eventually allowed gay marriage to be legalized.

Ixian said:

Apologies for the double post, but this really bothers me. Does anyone else remember that Gay Marriage was legalized on the basis that being homosexual was an "inherent characteristic" IE people were born that way and that its impossible to change someones sexual preferences?

Yet in the last five to six years the Left has moved from homosexuality being an inherent trait, to it being a choice, which absolutely flies in the face of all their arguments from the 90s to mid 00s, and what eventually allowed gay marriage to be legalized.

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*raises hand*

I've mentioned before that my twin sis is married to a gay man from East Saint Louis. He is nothing like that woman.

Tossed the article his way. His response can not be repeated here because it would violate rule 3f.

Ixian said:

Apologies for the double post, but this really bothers me. Does anyone else remember that Gay Marriage was legalized on the basis that being homosexual was an "inherent characteristic" IE people were born that way and that its impossible to change someones sexual preferences?

Yet in the last five to six years the Left has moved from homosexuality being an inherent trait, to it being a choice, which absolutely flies in the face of all their arguments from the 90s to mid 00s, and what eventually allowed gay marriage to be legalized.

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Because they think they’ve won and have no reason to keep up a facade; or at least that’s my guess.

Ixian said:

Apologies for the double post, but this really bothers me. Does anyone else remember that Gay Marriage was legalized on the basis that being homosexual was an "inherent characteristic" IE people were born that way and that its impossible to change someones sexual preferences?

Yet in the last five to six years the Left has moved from homosexuality being an inherent trait, to it being a choice, which absolutely flies in the face of all their arguments from the 90s to mid 00s, and what eventually allowed gay marriage to be legalized.

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The more disturbing and explicitly groomer aspect of it is framing it is as being an inherent trait/choice that kids make/realize in kindergarten. Which is a lie, kindergarteners still think girls have cooties, they are not in any way emotional mature enough to understand sexuality. Suggesting that they are is pedo logic, because if they can understand sex then it's only a short leap to conclude that they can consent to sex.

This is how they think



632 morons who read the NYT agreed, think about this. They consider exposing babies to porn and sex morally good but religion evil. They have firmly moved into the "evangelical strawman of a liberal" position and made it their complete and utter end point.

Sobek said:

This is how they think

632 morons who read the NYT agreed, think about this. They consider exposing babies to porn and sex morally good but religion evil. They have firmly moved into the "evangelical strawman of a liberal" position and made it their complete and utter end point.

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I'm trying to think up a remotely peaceful outcome for this and I have come up with a complete blank.

These are the people who run the establishment in the west, I do not think I have seen an elite this openly corrupt, incompetant and manevolent in quite some time. Even the roman Optimates for all of their flaws could fall back upon tradition to save them. These people have nothing but money and their own egos.

And money vanishes faster then one thinks.

Cherico said:

I'm trying to think up a remotely peaceful outcome for this and I have come up with a complete blank.

These are the people who run the establishment in the west, I do not think I have seen an elite this openly corrupt, incompetant and manevolent in quite some time. Even the roman Optimates for all of their flaws could fall back upon tradition to save them. These people have nothing but money and their own egos.

And money vanishes faster then one thinks.

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We are not Rome, and the idea of continuing to look to Rome and try to figure out the future in a 'cycles of time' fashion is mostly conservative cope. It give them the wrong ideas about how to handle things, while also not realizing the civilizational cycles have sped up since the time of Rome, and limits the thinking of the Right when they fall back on this theory.

The elites have control of the nukes codes, they have control of the logistics chain, the water and power, the comms/internet infrastructure, and the orbitals. The people trying to destroy humanity want to replace us with what amounts to immortal Borg corp/political overlords, where the human body is seen as but a chrysalis for an uploaded intelligence that treats bodies as cars, at the cost of killing off most of the population and limiting human population to 500 mil while using biomedical control that acts like ketracel white from DS9, where life itself, not matter how seemingly immortal even in an uploaded state becomes a subscription subject to gov and corp control down to the cellular level.

You need to be looking at shit like 1984, Rainbow Six, and Ghost in the Shell to get what we are likely looking at; Casear cannot help us here.

History Learner said:

This has been going on for decades and the fact it's just now getting attention should speak volumes about how bad it has gotten, in terms of being an entrenched ideology. Remember the "Satanist Panic" of the 1980s? Friendly reminder five of the preschool children involved at one of the establishments were found to have contracted chlamydia.

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Which case? Because y'know, being able to reference actual facts would be helpful considering just how utterly hysteria-based all of that ended up being, and how the entire basis of the vast majority -- if not totality -- of supposed cases was the completely debunked pseudoscience idea of "recovered memory therapy".

That and the testimony of an "expert witness" who literally asserted that there is no such thing as any medical evidence that ever disproves child molestation, because child molestation is proven by both evidence of injuries and also by lack of evidence of injuries.

Bacle said:

We are not Rome, and the idea of continuing to look to Rome and try to figure out the future in a 'cycles of time' fashion is mostly conservative cope. It give them the wrong ideas about how to handle things, while also not realizing the civilizational cycles have sped up since the time of Rome, and limits the thinking of the Right when they fall back on this theory.

The elites have control of the nukes codes, they have control of the logistics chain, the water and power, the comms/internet infrastructure, and the orbitals. The people trying to destroy humanity want to replace us with what amounts to immortal Borg corp/political overlords, where the human body is seen as but a chrysalis for an uploaded intelligence that treats bodies as cars, at the cost of killing off most of the population and limiting human population to 500 mil while using biomedical control that acts like ketracel white from DS9, where life itself, not matter how seemingly immortal even in an uploaded state becomes a subscription subject to gov and corp control down to the cellular level.

You need to be looking at shit like 1984, Rainbow Six, and Ghost in the Shell to get what we are likely looking at; Casear cannot help us here.

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Nukes are a shit weapon to use during a civil war, and using them on your civilian population is just begging people to coup you to prevent you from doing that again. Remember there is being too dangerous to fuck with and too dangerous to let live, and once you cross that line every one wants you dead fast to perserve their own lives.

Their control over logistics water power comms internet all of this shit breaks down when society breaks down enough to have civil war. Seriously when shit gets to 100 all of this breaks down fast.

In addition to all the hysteria, there were numerous cases of what can only be called outright dishonesty. For example, the archaeologist (Stickler) hired by the families of the "victims" in the McMartin preschool case to locate the supposed tunnels claimed that the ground-penetrating radar scans carried out by Spectrum confirmed his findings of tunnels matching the childrens' descriptions. His exact words being, "Thus the GPR was successful in detecting the main tunnel at the locus of the dividing wall between the two classrooms".

In reality, Spectrum's written findings explicitly stated that the ground-penetrating radar scans refuted the claimed tunnels: "In Areas One, Two, Three, and Four (see Figures Two, Three, Four, and Five) the GPR depth of penetration was approximately 8 to 10 feet below ground level. No evidence was found to support the existence of filled-in below ground tunnels.” In other words, Stickler outright lied about the GPR results even though Spectrum's written findings were attached to his own report.

I think what he meant was not that there were Satanic Rituals and cults, but that some kids tested positive for STDs implying sexual abuse.

"It's totally not grooming guys! It's just basic sex education for teenagers! Anyone saying otherwise is a transphobe homophobe nazi fascist Qanon crazy!"

Ixian said:

Apologies for the double post, but this really bothers me. Does anyone else remember that Gay Marriage was legalized on the basis that being homosexual was an "inherent characteristic" IE people were born that way and that its impossible to change someones sexual preferences?

Yet in the last five to six years the Left has moved from homosexuality being an inherent trait, to it being a choice, which absolutely flies in the face of all their arguments from the 90s to mid 00s, and what eventually allowed gay marriage to be legalized.

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So first, it's not a choice, it's just some men want to have sex with lesbians. Seriously, just google "your genital preferences are transphobic" to find some of the most homophobic things you'll ever see, all brought to you by lefties. They are trying to guilt people into feeling obligated to have sex with them.

And then it snowballed from a shitty pickup attempt into a social movement. I don't think there's anyway something so dumb would have been organized. Just people being dicks about how they want to have sex, and then the social benefit of being trans plus the lack of requirements to qualify.

And second, the argument for gay marriage isn't based on it being a choice (which is good for me, as since I'm bi it is a choice). It's based around once marriage is a secular institution, it's none of the government's damn business who I marry. Add that to separation of Church and State in the US, and that's the extent of the argument.

No, it's not a moral argument, I'm not trying to make one. Religious marriage can still mean whatever your sect wants it to mean, it's also not my business to screw with that.






Now, as to child grooming, there is one exception to the child grooming bill I'll actually listen too, and it's a good point. What happens when the woke parent brings there 'trans' kid to school, and the kids ask the teacher "What's up with George? Why's he wearing a dress?" That would, in a normal world, be a fine time for the teacher to quickly, dispassionately, explain what's up with George then move on. But in Florida, the teacher can't say anything, so the kid is going to get laughed at worse. Of course, outside Florida, the teacher might also try to convert new kids, so IDK.

Abhorsen said:

And then it snowballed from a shitty pickup attempt into a social movement. I don't think there's anyway something so dumb would have been organized. Just people being dicks about how they want to have sex, and then the social benefit of being trans plus the lack of requirements to qualify.

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Ehhhh, every ideological position has its incursions on the plane of nutbar ideological extremism. There's a fairly longstanding, actually organized social movement of gays asserting that being transgender is actually an act of homophobic bigotry because trans women are "actually" just gay men. And a definitely organized social movement of extreme feminists who insist that being transgender is a way of symbolically raping women and also committing ritual cult murder of your own mother.

Abhorsen said:

So first, it's not a choice, it's just some men want to have sex with lesbians. Seriously, just google "your genital preferences are transphobic" to find some of the most homophobic things you'll ever see, all brought to you by lefties. They are trying to guilt people into feeling obligated to have sex with them.

And then it snowballed from a shitty pickup attempt into a social movement. I don't think there's anyway something so dumb would have been organized. Just people being dicks about how they want to have sex, and then the social benefit of being trans plus the lack of requirements to qualify.

And second, the argument for gay marriage isn't based on it being a choice (which is good for me, as since I'm bi it is a choice). It's based around once marriage is a secular institution, it's none of the government's damn business who I marry. Add that to separation of Church and State in the US, and that's the extent of the argument.

No, it's not a moral argument, I'm not trying to make one. Religious marriage can still mean whatever your sect wants it to mean, it's also not my business to screw with that.

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I never said the argument for gay marriage was based on being gay was a choice, I said it was based on being gay was an inherent characteristic, IE not a choice, and therefore denying homosexual individuals the ability to be married was discrimination, because it was an inherent characteristic. Much like race or sex.

That was the key leftist argument in support of gay marriage throughout the late 90s and early 00s. Which they have absolutely walked back on in the last five years or so, as clearly evidenced by this very thread. The Left has went from "Homosexuality isn't a choice, and is an inherent characteristic" which was the main argument they made for legalizing gay marriage, to "Homosexuality is a choice, and you can raise children to be homosexual and change your sexuality at will", which clearly invalidates the prior argument if true.

Ixian said:

I never said the argument for gay marriage was based on being gay was a choice, I said it was based on being gay was an inherent characteristic, IE not a choice, and therefore denying homosexual individuals the ability to be married was discrimination, because it was an inherent characteristic. Much like race or sex.

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I agree with this (at least the part that says gay is intrinsic), that's what I was trying to communicate. The point of my statement was to say that leftists switching sides was wrong, and also explaining where its weird origins stem from.

ShadowArxxy said:

Ehhhh, every ideological position has its incursions on the plane of nutbar ideological extremism. There's a fairly longstanding, actually organized social movement of gays asserting that being transgender is actually an act of homophobic bigotry because trans women are "actually" just gay men. And a definitely organized social movement of extreme feminists who insist that being transgender is a way of symbolically raping women and also committing ritual cult murder of your own mother.

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Yeah, and if either of those two positions had social power, I'd be advocating against them too. But they don't. Nutbar extremism that's 'pro'-'trans' (by which I mean loudly approving of anyone who claims to be anything non-cis) is what has social power now. Everytime I have to deal with lefty controlled spaces I see it, and goddamn it sucks. People seem to think a haircut and outfit change is all that's necessary. And I'm not going to bitch them out for it, because they are deluded like I once was, and bitching them out will just shove them deeper into it.

There are, on the other hand, a bunch of actual trans people I know and respect, who have made a conscious effort to transition instead of just swapping pronouns cause they feel like it. I'll use their pronouns gladly, because it is legitimate AFAICT, and as long as someone doesn't make it obvious they aren't really trans, I'm not gonna bother trying.



Also, as for a grooming story: I know of a couple, both MTF. One is the sweetest woman, who's perfectly nice, and clearly trans. The other's a fucking creep rat bastard, and I don't know how she puts up with him and his abusive ass (no, I will misgender him, fuck him). So for just one example of him being a living fuck, him telling me all about how he's cracking people's eggs on discord (i.e. convincing people that they are trans). Translation: he's purposely spending his free time giving people who he (supposedly) doesn't hate gender dysphoria. WTF?

Abhorsen said:

Probably not a good thing. Look, I don't like it, but ultimately it's not the government's kid. A democrat governor could probably use the same logic to seize the kids of anyone who denied them the therapy.

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It's CPS he's turning loose, the same agency whose Nevada counterpart disappeared eight hundred kids over ten years, the same agency that nearly got declared a criminal organization by the Texas legislature because they seized an 18 month old with chronic illness from his step mother, then let the poor little guy starve to death then seized her other kids and threatened to do the same to them if they didn't bear false witness against their own parents.

Whose California counterpart tried to argue before the Cali Supreme Court that criminal entrapment is absolutely legitimate for them to perform because the constitution doesn't apply to CPS agents.

Oh and whose Georgia counterpart murdered a sitting member of the state legislature and her husband after she published a report on their criminal misdeeds.

So yeah, I'll agree with you....Abbot is playing with fire.

But CPS corruption requires its own thread and these teachers and "transactivist parents" still need handcuffs.

Bacle said:

Casear cannot help us here.

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Oh Caesar can indeed help, but he won't be an old money bisexual punk rocker with flame art at the edges of his togas.

He'll probably be an unholy fusion of Douglas MacArthur and Johnathan Doors from EFC.

Cherico said:

Their control over logistics water power comms internet all of this shit breaks down when society breaks down enough to have civil war. Seriously when shit gets to 100 all of this breaks down fast.

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Like I said the last time this came up, 3 bored teenagers, their pet Macaw and a BB gun took down a major Cali grid in 2014

Sobek said:

I think what he meant was not that there were Satanic Rituals and cults, but that some kids tested positive for STDs implying sexual abuse.

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Metokur did a whole two parter on this wherein he got the FBI reports that were declassified a few years ago.

Turns out the tunnels existed and what they described as pagan imagery was infact prevalent in certain areas.

Makes sense why certain people would panic over it and vociferously defend the psyop though.