Bidengate in which a meth head son and possible child abuser ruins your political grift

By no means a personal attack here, but man this post didn’t age well.
Honestly, remember I'm still in that bubble, my second caveat still holds. I'm not sure you appreciate just how corrupt, incompetent, callous, cruel, offensive... (goes on for several minutes) Trump's presidency was from here. Even assuming the realistic worst cases for Biden and his family's corruption, it's really hard to see it as worse than Trump's.

My impression is that Hunter Biden was up to amazingly shady and corrupt shit, but that isn't a surprise to me. I read Bob Woodward's Peril talking about Hunter Biden roaming the streets looking for crack when he was supposed to be in rehab months ago so him being a corrupt idiot is not remotely surprising to me.

Trump meanwhile has the Ukraine shakedown call, the capitol riot, trying to revoke birthright citizenship, the botched reaction to covid, all of which strike me as reasons I would've voted for Biden over Trump knowing everything I know now. That's the "off the top of my head" stuff.
 
Honestly, remember I'm still in that bubble, my second caveat still holds. I'm not sure you appreciate just how corrupt, incompetent, callous, cruel, offensive... (goes on for several minutes) Trump's presidency was from here. Even assuming the realistic worst cases for Biden and his family's corruption, it's really hard to see it as worse than Trump's.

My impression is that Hunter Biden was up to amazingly shady and corrupt shit, but that isn't a surprise to me. I read Bob Woodward's Peril talking about Hunter Biden roaming the streets looking for crack when he was supposed to be in rehab months ago so him being a corrupt idiot is not remotely surprising to me.

Trump meanwhile has the Ukraine shakedown call, the capitol riot, trying to revoke birthright citizenship, the botched reaction to covid, all of which strike me as reasons I would've voted for Biden over Trump knowing everything I know now. That's the "off the top of my head" stuff.

The Hunter Biden stuff is exponentially worse.

The United States Agency for International Development and the Defense Threat Reduction Agency have been using the Nunn-Lugar act and the pretense of "disarmament" to conduct illegal bioweapon research in facilities all over the globe.


Hunter Biden's firm Rosemont Seneca funneled cash into Metabiota, a company involved in "virus surveillance", which was basically a euphemism for gain-of-function work with deadly pathogens, which can be used to create bioweapons.

Metabiota's founder, Nathan Wolfe, was on the editorial board of Peter Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance, he was a DARPA DSRC member, and he was also friends with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and one of TerraMar's "founding citizens".





We are dealing with treason, fraud, and mass murder on an unbelievable scale.

This isn't even a partisan thing. It's not a left-right thing. It's a "our governments are completely infiltrated by organized crime" thing.
 
Honestly, remember I'm still in that bubble, my second caveat still holds. I'm not sure you appreciate just how corrupt, incompetent, callous, cruel, offensive... (goes on for several minutes) Trump's presidency was from here. Even assuming the realistic worst cases for Biden and his family's corruption, it's really hard to see it as worse than Trump's.

My impression is that Hunter Biden was up to amazingly shady and corrupt shit, but that isn't a surprise to me. I read Bob Woodward's Peril talking about Hunter Biden roaming the streets looking for crack when he was supposed to be in rehab months ago so him being a corrupt idiot is not remotely surprising to me.

Trump meanwhile has the Ukraine shakedown call, the capitol riot, trying to revoke birthright citizenship, the botched reaction to covid, all of which strike me as reasons I would've voted for Biden over Trump knowing everything I know now. That's the "off the top of my head" stuff.


Trump had every reason to investigate biden over Ukraine, Biden bragged on Television that he was up to shady shit over there and thus deserved to be investigated because on television confession. We then found out about various deals including hunter getting kush jobs he was in no way qualified to have.

And then the democratic party decided to try to impeach him over investigating Bidens corruption.

The Democratic party and Biden deserve a full investigation into all of their fincial dealings and dealing in general because just the surface level stuff is digusting.

And yes the hunter lab top is real.
 
Honestly, remember I'm still in that bubble, my second caveat still holds. I'm not sure you appreciate just how corrupt, incompetent, callous, cruel, offensive... (goes on for several minutes) Trump's presidency was from here. Even assuming the realistic worst cases for Biden and his family's corruption, it's really hard to see it as worse than Trump's.
Honestly, from what I've seen that goes on in that mainstream left wing (otherwise known as the regressive left) bubble, Hitler himself could rise from the grave and rape every single person on the planet to death, and even that wouldn't be worse than Trump's mere existence to those who refuse to see past said bubble. It's not about what Trump did, or what kind of person he is for them; it's about tribal loyalty, and ideology.
 
The Hunter Biden stuff is exponentially worse.

We are dealing with treason, fraud, and mass murder on an unbelievable scale.

*blinks*

I wasn't expecting full Q-Anon here. Q-Anon fellow traveler maybe, but not full Q-Anon.

If I actually believed any of that I obviously wouldn't consider the Biden stuff comparable. But you're literally going "Ukrainian bio-weapons" here. Which is um, not a thing I believe is remotely possible and is clearly in the nonsense scale of "Trump is fighting cannibal pedophile cults who seek Satanic immortality" theories.

If I believed any of this was true I'd obviously be on Trump's side, but I um, can't. I'd believe a faked moon landing before I believed Trump was a messianic warrior fighting the evil deep state cult with the humility not to tell anyone about it. I am honestly very surprised I came across this level of claim here.

Honestly, from what I've seen that goes on in that mainstream left wing (otherwise known as the regressive left) bubble, Hitler himself could rise from the grave and rape every single person on the planet to death, and even that wouldn't be worse than Trump's mere existence to those who refuse to see past said bubble. It's not about what Trump did, or what kind of person he is for them; it's about tribal loyalty, and ideology.
Honestly that strikes me as only a mild exaggeration.
 
If I actually believed any of that I obviously wouldn't consider the Biden stuff comparable. But you're literally going "Ukrainian bio-weapons" here. Which is um, not a thing I believe is remotely possible and is clearly in the nonsense scale of "Trump is fighting cannibal pedophile cults who seek Satanic immortality" theories.
You do recall that the Biden administration outright admitted that they had biolabs in Ukraine, and that they were worried about the Russians getting their hands on what was in them, right? It's not that big of a leap to go from that, to "Ukrainian bio-weapons".
 
*blinks*

I wasn't expecting full Q-Anon here. Q-Anon fellow traveler maybe, but not full Q-Anon.

If I actually believed any of that I obviously wouldn't consider the Biden stuff comparable. But you're literally going "Ukrainian bio-weapons" here. Which is um, not a thing I believe is remotely possible and is clearly in the nonsense scale of "Trump is fighting cannibal pedophile cults who seek Satanic immortality" theories.

If I believed any of this was true I'd obviously be on Trump's side, but I um, can't. I'd believe a faked moon landing before I believed Trump was a messianic warrior fighting the evil deep state cult with the humility not to tell anyone about it. I am honestly very surprised I came across this level of claim here.

I have communicated directly with insiders. I DMed Andrew Huff, the former Vice President of EcoHealth Alliance, on his Twitter. He endorsed my version of the events:





People knew about the labs years ago:


This is not speculative, tinfoil-hat stuff. There is endless evidence.
  • Andrew Huff, the former VP of EcoHealth Alliance, has blown the whistle and stated that Peter Daszak told him directly that he was working for the CIA.
  • NIH, DTRA, and USAID funded EcoHealth under UC Davis's PREDICT program. You can go on USASPENDING.GOV and see the exact amounts awarded.
  • EcoHealth Alliance funded gain-of-function work in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
  • Anthony Fauci perjured himself in front of Congress by stating that the NIH did not fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan.
  • There was a massive coverup orchestrated by Anthony Fauci, Shi Zhengli, and Peter Daszak working in concert. Most of the people who signed the Lancet letter decrying the lab leak theory were directly connected to the WIV.
  • Peter Daszak specifically instructed Ralph Baric, via email, not to sign the Lancet lab leak letter, fearing the obvious conflict of interest.
  • There is smoking-gun, incontrovertible evidence that Moderna were directly involved in the creation of SARS-CoV-2. The virus's furin cleavage site has, as its reverse complement, a gene sequence that is only found in one other place in BLAST databases; Moderna's own patented MSH3-mutant cancer cell lines. Also, Ralph Baric, a colleague of Shi Zhengli at the WIV and Fauci's so-called "man in North Carolina", took delivery of Coronavirus mRNA vaccine-related materials co-owned by Moderna and NIH on December 12th, 2019, before most people were even aware an outbreak had occurred.
  • Moderna claim they received the gene sequence for SARS-CoV-2 on January 11th, 2020, and made a vaccine from it within 48 hours.
  • Nathan Wolfe, the founder of Metabiota (which was funded by Hunter Biden and Rosemont Seneca), was linked to DARPA, EcoHealth Alliance, and Epstein and Maxwell, and was a TerraMar founding citizen. You can look at TerraMar's site on the Wayback machine and see his face right on it.
There is only one, inescapable conclusion. DTRA, USAID, and the CIA have exploited the Nunn-Lugar Act and the pretext of "disarmament" and “viral surveillance” to conduct illicit bioweapon research in foreign labs using private companies and NGOs as fronts for this work. This led to the creation of SARS-CoV-2 and the current pandemic. Worse still, the same people behind the virus are also behind the vaccines.
 
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I have communicated directly with insiders. I DMed Andrew Huff, the former Vice President of EcoHealth Alliance, on his Twitter. He endorsed my version of the events:

Okay, I want you to understand that it is really hard for me to face that this even might be true. It's a major effort to work with a paradigm so alien to the media narrative I've been fed. So here are my questions.

1. Why should I believe the Q-Sphere now when it has made consistently false and highly specific predictions about what will happen? Examples include specific dates for "The Storm" of mass arrests of officials and the return of John Kennedy Junior in Dallas, predictions which received mainstream media coverage and obviously did not come true. If they were wrong about these things, why believe that the covid conspiracy has more credibility?

2. Why specifically should I trust Andrew Huff, your main source, above and beyond a wide variety of other sources, many of which have no love for the Biden administration and are not paid by them? Why hasn't, for example, the rationalist sphere of the internet jumped on this despite their dedication to searching for the truth and antipathy towards modern institutions, or the libertarians who feel excluded by both parties, or other relatively neutral groups, or Mitt Romney, who ran for the Republican presidential ticket? Why are such a wide spread of people with plenty of motivation to gain credibility not endorsing this version of events? Why is the main faction that accepts this narrative the one so strongly associated with Trump and the Republicans?

3. How did this happen under a Republican administration that actively hated Fauci and wanted him gone? Why didn't Donald Trump's justice department uncover this and trumpet it as deep state corruption?

4. Why is Hunter Biden of all people the person with the smoking gun connected to all of this in his laptop? He's the fuckup son of a vice president who lacked real power. Why was anyone in this conspiracy working with this random drug addict with criminal connections? Wouldn't he have been vetoed for the conspiracy specifically because of the chances of his fucking up when the conspiracy is otherwise so widespread, powerful, and competent the mainstream media considers the claims completely bogus?

This is not speculative, tinfoil-hat stuff. There is endless evidence.

Breaking this down.
  • Andrew Huff, the former VP of EcoHealth Alliance, has blown the whistle and stated that Peter Daszak told him directly that he was working for the CIA.
    [*]NIH, DTRA, and USAID funded EcoHealth under UC Davis's PREDICT program. You can go on USASPENDING.GOV and see the exact amounts awarded.
    [*]EcoHealth Alliance funded gain-of-function work in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
    [*]Anthony Fauci perjured himself in front of Congress by stating that the NIH did not fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan.
I'll assume this is all true.

  • There was a massive coverup orchestrated by Anthony Fauci, Shi Zhengli, and Peter Daszak working in concert. Most of the people who signed the Lancet letter decrying the lab leak theory were directly connected to the WIV.
This is the part where I start to get suspicious. Once again, why is this massively powerful conspiracy tied with random elected officials who had no power at the time, getting away with things under a hostile administration, and generally wielding immense influence despite being random health officials and scientists?

This is not dismissal of the gain of function-lab leak theory by itself. I find that possible but unlikely independent of this, and think zoonosis is at least highly plausible. But it doesn't directly follow from what we know. What you've proven is random guys think this is true, not that it is true. Random guys, even influential and respected ones, can believe false things or say things they know is false for any number of reasons.

  • Peter Daszak specifically instructed Ralph Baric, via email, not to sign the Lancet lab leak letter, fearing the obvious conflict of interest.
    [*]There is smoking-gun, incontrovertible evidence that Moderna were directly involved in the creation of SARS-CoV-2. The virus's furin cleavage site has, as its reverse complement, a gene sequence that is only found in one other place in BLAST databases; Moderna's own patented MSH3-mutant cancer cell lines. Also, Ralph Baric, a colleague of Shi Zhengli at the WIV and Fauci's so-called "man in North Carolina", took delivery of Coronavirus mRNA vaccine-related materials co-owned by Moderna and NIH on December 12th, 2019, before most people were even aware an outbreak had occurred.
    [*]Moderna claim they received the gene sequence for SARS-CoV-2 on January 11th, 2020, and made a vaccine from it within 48 hours.
This gets to the stuff I have a lot more trouble with. These are obviously a lot of specific facts that might be true or untrue, but don't really support each other. I don't see any reason that these justify the conspiracy above. I've got no way of understanding the furin cleavage thing or how fast the MRNA vaccine synthesis "should" have happened, much less the details of Peter Daszak and Ralph Baric's relationships with the possible conspiracy.

We have independently:

-A specific technical claim that many scientists dispute.
-The details of a technology that is claimed to be able to do exactly what they said it did.
-Random guys who were suspicious of the lab leak letter before it was published.

This might be Bayesian evidence, but it's not hard evidence to me.


  • Nathan Wolfe, the founder of Metabiota (which was funded by Hunter Biden and Rosemont Seneca), was linked to DARPA, EcoHealth Alliance, and Epstein and Maxwell, and was a TerraMar founding citizen. You can look at TerraMar's site on the Wayback machine and see his face right on it.
I have no idea what that has to do with the rest of it?

There is only one, inescapable conclusion. DTRA, USAID, and the CIA have exploited the Nunn-Lugar Act and the pretext of "disarmament" and “viral surveillance” to conduct illicit bioweapon research in foreign labs using private companies and NGOs as fronts for this work. This led to the creation of SARS-CoV-2 and the current pandemic. Worse still, the same people behind the virus are also behind the vaccines.

I don't see it, trying to give what you're saying very careful thought.

1. There's some evidence for the lab leak theory, particularly the furin cleave thing, but there's other explanations that are offered for that, and it doesn't seem to convince a wide variety of scientists who discuss the issue.
2. There's some evidence for attempts to suppress the lab leak theory, and definitely ties between the US government and the Wuhan lab that would justify this suppression if it was true.
3. There's some people saying there's this specific conspiracy. These people are not ones I see as particularly trustworthy, never heard of them before your post.

I can see why this should lead to an investigation of possible conspiracy or corruption, but I don't see how it leads to a single inescapable conclusion. None of the strong evidence particularly points to deliberate engineering of bioweapons, as gain of function research has other justifications for trying to study what might happen to a disease naturally.

I want to reiterate I am trying very hard to give this the benefit of the doubt, but the whole narrative just doesn't click together for me in the way you're arguing it has to.
 
1. Why should I believe the Q-Sphere now when it has made consistently false and highly specific predictions about what will happen? Examples include specific dates for "The Storm" of mass arrests of officials and the return of John Kennedy Junior in Dallas, predictions which received mainstream media coverage and obviously did not come true. If they were wrong about these things, why believe that the covid conspiracy has more credibility?

I have studied Q in some detail. The conclusion I drew from it was very different from what most people did. I think it's entirely possible the whole thing was a pied piper operation of some type. Psychological warfare. Draw people in towards a single honeypot movement so they can all be attacked and discredited together. It also gives people the false impression that people inside the establishment are working towards its demise, which creates complacency. In other words, it's a means of stalling for time.

You don't need riddles to see that Jeffrey Epstein was connected to hundreds of people in very high places.


It's possible that I'm wrong about this, however. It would be nice if there were insiders working against people like Epstein and their associates, because these are tremendously evil people involved in, essentially, state-sponsored human trafficking rings, for which there is extensive evidence stretching back decades (see, for instance, the Dutroux X-Dossiers). However, I am not holding my breath.

2. Why specifically should I trust Andrew Huff, your main source, above and beyond a wide variety of other sources, many of which have no love for the Biden administration and are not paid by them? Why hasn't, for example, the rationalist sphere of the internet jumped on this despite their dedication to searching for the truth and antipathy towards modern institutions, or the libertarians who feel excluded by both parties, or other relatively neutral groups, or Mitt Romney, who ran for the Republican presidential ticket? Why are such a wide spread of people with plenty of motivation to gain credibility not endorsing this version of events? Why is the main faction that accepts this narrative the one so strongly associated with Trump and the Republicans?

The information has been extensively suppressed by social media. Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit have been banning people left and right, and shadowbanning material, as well, under the guise of "combating medical misinformation". You have to actively hunt for the stuff, dodging search algorithms that are designed to steer you away from it.



Peter Daszak was, in fact, involved in a DHS-backed effort called the "Ground Truth Network", to appoint subject matter experts to advise the DHS and the public on outbreaks:


I know some will scoff at Glenn Beck simply because he's Glenn Beck, but having a fairly extensive knowledge of the background of all this, I can say that much of what he says is accurate, but he fumbles and misremembers some details here and there:



That documentary is heavily suppressed on YouTube. Type in crimes or cover-up in the search bar and watch as absolutely nothing comes up.

3. How did this happen under a Republican administration that actively hated Fauci and wanted him gone? Why didn't Donald Trump's justice department uncover this and trumpet it as deep state corruption?

It's possible that Trump was in on it. The political theater divides the populace and makes them complacent towards the establishment and argumentative towards each other. Planting an outsider candidate who's not actually an outsider is a great way for the establishment to discredit rising populist sentiments and divide the working class into competing factions. If lower and middle class people are divided into "progressive" and "racist/homophobic" camps, they can't effectively unite against the one percent. Occupy Wall Street scared the establishment precisely because it was bipartisan.

I honestly hope Trump wasn't in on it, because if he was, all of our lives are in danger.

Trump was instrumental in starting up Operation Warp Speed and making sure the vaccines were produced and distributed as quickly as possible. Before Biden was elected, a large number of people were suspicious of the vaccines, calling them "the Trump vaccine" and arguing that it was impossible to have a vaccine ready so quickly through the use of accelerated clinical trials. After Biden was elected, many of the complaints disappeared.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer. Vaccines against measles, mumps, rubella, polio, and tetanus and the like have been tested extensively and seem generally effective. However, having studied Moderna and Pfizer's technology extensively, I can say that I'm pretty sure that entirely untested, experimental gene therapy that uses human cells as bioreactors to express viral proteins is so different from old vaccine tech that uses killed or live attenuated whole virus particles, it's practically fraudulent to slap the label "vaccine" on these things.

We have solid evidence that these mRNA vaccines can do irreparable harm in multiple ways. SARS-CoV-2 Spike is not a protein people should want in their bodies, either from COVID-19 infection or from the vaccines. It can cross the blood-brain barrier and it is highly toxic and amyloidogenic. It is capable of causing proteinopathies of the type associated with neurodegenerative diseases. Also, inadvertent intravenous injection of these vaccines basically causes guaranteed myocarditis and heart scarring, sometimes bad enough to warrant a heart transplant. In murine models, inadvertent intravenous injection caused white patches to form on the hearts of mice. How many vaccine technicians are aspirating the needles before injecting to make sure they didn't hit a blood vessel?




During Ron Johnson's Second Opinion panel, Thomas Renz brought up leaked DMED data that showed that DOD personnel who'd received these vaccines had highly elevated rates of numerous autoimmune-associated diseases.




The DOD's response to this was to make the utterly absurd statement that there was a glitch in the DMED system which caused years prior to 2021 to show lower-than-normal rates of illness, and that it somehow magically resolved itself in 2021, and that the data from 2021 is close to the baseline for all prior years.


Dr. Theresa Long testified that she was ordered by higher-ups to conceal this.


Steve Kirsch has testified that all-cause mortality has spiked in late 2021, and this can be verified by life insurance records:



The vaccines are killing people. And not a small number of people, either. We're talking the Vietnam War's worth of young people, already. COVID-19's case fatality rate in people 20 to 44 years old is like 0.1%. In people younger than 55, it is entirely possible that the mortality from the vaccines is substantially higher.

Legal Watch | Former BackRock Advisor: Thousands of Millennials Died After Vaccine Mandates

The vaccine may have a relative effectiveness against COVID-19 of 95% on paper, but if the complications from the vaccine exceed the number of lives that it saves, then the net effect is negative.

Just anecdotally, I was infected with COVID-19 this past January. The person who infected me was vaccinated and had a breakthrough infection, and then passed it on to me. These "vaccines" do not stop infection or transmission.

I could go into rather deep technical detail about why that's the case, but to put it bluntly, the vaccine that they're still pushing right now contains genetic material encoding a modified form of the Spike protein from the original strain of the virus. Delta and Omicron and the like have motifs on their Spike that are completely different, to an extent that they escape antibodies from previous strains. They've mutated too far away. In other words, it's like taking a two-year-old flu shot, at best.

At worst, it causes cells expressing the protein to be attacked by the immune system as if they were viruses, while also causing Spike-associated proteinopathies.


To break it down, the Pfizer and Moderna "vaccines" use nucleoside-modified messenger RNA in a lipid nanoparticle shell to induce an immune response by transfecting deltoid muscle cells with the mRNA for a modified form of SARS-CoV-2 Spike, causing ribosomes to translate this mRNA, synthesizing the protein inside the cells and having them express it on their surfaces. It's gene delivery into the cells. The human cells are essentially used as bioreactors to produce a viral protein in-vivo. Lots and lots of problems with this!
Every single part of it is basically poison.

Much of the research into mRNA vaccines was funded by DARPA. That is, military funding. Also, mRNA-1273 is Moderna's first commercial product. After years and years of nothing.

Why are people being compelled, under threat of job loss, to have their bodies injected with the first-ever commercial product of a company with military think tank funding, which was rushed to market under an FDA emergency use authorization? How in the hell is this not ringing alarm bells for people?

4. Why is Hunter Biden of all people the person with the smoking gun connected to all of this in his laptop? He's the fuckup son of a vice president who lacked real power. Why was anyone in this conspiracy working with this random drug addict with criminal connections? Wouldn't he have been vetoed for the conspiracy specifically because of the chances of his fucking up when the conspiracy is otherwise so widespread, powerful, and competent the mainstream media considers the claims completely bogus?

His father was using him as an intermediary in his dealings with Ukraine and Burisma. Why did Hunter abandon a laptop with incriminating information in a repair shop? I honestly have no idea. Sheer drug-induced idiocy? Maybe he wanted to come clean and this was his way of doing it? I don't know.

I'll assume this is all true.

I can provide the evidence:

Here's Andrew Huff's whistleblower complaint:



Here are details on the precise amounts awarded to EcoHealth Alliance (the NIH money came from HHS):


Here's USAID's response to an inquiry by Rep. Guy Reschenthaler, stating that they gave EcoHealth Alliance $1.1 million to subcontract to the WIV:


Here are The Intercept and their FOIAd documents on NIH's subcontracted work at the WIV:


Here's Anthony Fauci lying before Congress:



This is the part where I start to get suspicious. Once again, why is this massively powerful conspiracy tied with random elected officials who had no power at the time, getting away with things under a hostile administration, and generally wielding immense influence despite being random health officials and scientists?

This is not dismissal of the gain of function-lab leak theory by itself. I find that possible but unlikely independent of this, and think zoonosis is at least highly plausible. But it doesn't directly follow from what we know. What you've proven is random guys think this is true, not that it is true. Random guys, even influential and respected ones, can believe false things or say things they know is false for any number of reasons.

Zoonosis of SARS-CoV-2 is not very plausible, for a number of reasons. For one thing, SARS-CoV-2 was human-adapted the moment it appeared.

For another, there are very obvious signs of a coverup.

Peter Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance were obviously involved in GOF research. If you go on DRASTIC Research's site, you will see that DARPA actually turned down a proposal from EcoHealth Alliance called DEFUSE because it was too dangerous and met their definition of gain-of-function research:


A leaked memo about these documents later formed the basis of a highly suppressed Project Veritas report:


I saw these leaks months before Project Veritas said anything about them, by the way, so if you're thinking this is stupid because it's from O'Keefe, it actually didn't come from him in the first place.

Here's Peter Daszak stating, and I quote, "you [Dr. Ralph Baric], me, and him should not sign this statement, so it has some distance from us and therefore doesn't work in a counterproductive way":


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Eventually, Peter Daszak did sign the letter anyway. In fact, all but one of the people who signed the letter had massive conflicts of interest:


Here's Peter Daszak emailing Tammie O'Rourke at Metabiota, instructing them to keep certain gene sequences out of their submissions to Genbank because they would "being [sic] very unwelcome attention to UC Davis, PREDICT and USAID," which is something Daszak was obviously worried about because he was working for the CIA and did not want his participation in a clandestine intelligence operation to be revealed:


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Here is fairly solid evidence that RaTG13, the so-called "natural precursor" of SARS-CoV-2, was a forgery:


A lot of such research has been published anonymously due to fears by researchers of being subjected to a massive public backlash and retaliation by their employers or those who provide their grant funding.

This gets to the stuff I have a lot more trouble with. These are obviously a lot of specific facts that might be true or untrue, but don't really support each other. I don't see any reason that these justify the conspiracy above. I've got no way of understanding the furin cleavage thing or how fast the MRNA vaccine synthesis "should" have happened, much less the details of Peter Daszak and Ralph Baric's relationships with the possible conspiracy.

We have independently:

-A specific technical claim that many scientists dispute.
-The details of a technology that is claimed to be able to do exactly what they said it did.
-Random guys who were suspicious of the lab leak letter before it was published.

This might be Bayesian evidence, but it's not hard evidence to me.

Here's an anonymous whistleblower late last year stating that SARS-CoV-2's Spike contains, as its reverse complement, a Moderna patented gene sequence found in their MSH3-mutant cancer cell lines:


Here's a follow-up to that claim in the form of multiple accredited researchers stating the same thing:


Here's the material transfer agreement that Ralph Baric signed to take delivery of mRNA Coronavirus vaccine-related material "jointly-owned by NIAID and Moderna" on December 12th, 2019, before people were even aware of an outbreak in Wuhan, as seen on page 105 of this document:


Moderna claim to have received the sequence for SARS-CoV-2 on January 11th, 2020, and made a vaccine from it within 48 hours.


On January 11, researchers from China published the genetic sequence of the coronavirus. Two days later, Moderna's team and NIH scientists had finalized the targeted genetic sequence they would use in the vaccine.

This is more than Bayesian evidence. This is stomach-churning stuff.

I have no idea what that has to do with the rest of it?

Because Metabiota were involved in the Ukraine labs, and EcoHealth Alliance have collaborated directly with them.


Victoria Nuland expressing concerns that the Russians would capture the laboratories and the research there shows that the research was of a sensitive and possibly illegal nature. Not to mention, the moment Russia invaded, the US State Department tried scrubbing evidence of the labs' existence off their site:


These labs are funded by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, a military think tank. The same military think tank that funded EcoHealth Alliance, in fact.

I want to reiterate I am trying very hard to give this the benefit of the doubt, but the whole narrative just doesn't click together for me in the way you're arguing it has to.

Putting all of these puzzle pieces together took two years of intense hyperfocus, being banned from SB, SV, and QQ, disowned and ridiculed by all of my friends, doxed, abused, vilified, and fired from my job for vaccine refusal. :(
 
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Putting all of these puzzle pieces together took two years of intense hyperfocus, being banned from SB, SV, and QQ, disowned and ridiculed by all of my friends, doxed, abused, vilified, and fired from my job for vaccine refusal. :(

Alright. I admit that it's just unpleasant to respond in too much detail right now. If I accepted everything you're claiming, my worldview would be pretty much broken up, and I just can't do that. You deserve to know why I am largely bowing out.

I cannot refute every point and detail you're using. I'm not an investigator or researcher who has spent as much time as you have here. I'm biased, and my biases lead me to just discount a lot of information you are presenting in good faith.

I am sorry this happened to you. I believe you're operating in good faith. I just lack the stamina and willpower to engage with you on the wide variety of very specific points which do not convince me.

In this field I concede personal victory to you. You have the stronger argument than I do. It's an act of cowardice not to engage fully and deeply with you. But I just can't go and re-examine my entire world based on meeting someone on the internet who has an elaborate, well researched theory.
 
Alright. I admit that it's just unpleasant to respond in too much detail right now. If I accepted everything you're claiming, my worldview would be pretty much broken up, and I just can't do that. You deserve to know why I am largely bowing out.

I cannot refute every point and detail you're using. I'm not an investigator or researcher who has spent as much time as you have here. I'm biased, and my biases lead me to just discount a lot of information you are presenting in good faith.

I am sorry this happened to you. I believe you're operating in good faith. I just lack the stamina and willpower to engage with you on the wide variety of very specific points which do not convince me.

In this field I concede personal victory to you. You have the stronger argument than I do. It's an act of cowardice not to engage fully and deeply with you. But I just can't go and re-examine my entire world based on meeting someone on the internet who has an elaborate, well researched theory.

I understand. This stuff is way, way too much for a lot of people.

It's almost too much for me. I've spent the past two years worrying nonstop about the lives and wellbeing of my friends and family. First, because I thought a lethal bioweapon was on the loose and was going to kill us all, and then, because I slowly started to realize that my own government was trying to murder me and everyone I love. I have dozens of new gray hairs, and some hair actually falling out from stress.

I begged and pleaded with my father not to take the vaccine, but he did. He had to for his job. His job he plans on retiring from in a couple years anyway.

A week ago, I had a dream that I was screaming over his ashes in a box.

I don't think we're all going to make it out of this alive, whatever the hell all this is.
 
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I understand. This stuff is way, way too much for a lot of people.

It's almost too much for me. I've spent the past two years worrying nonstop about the lives and wellbeing of my friends and family. First, because I thought a lethal bioweapon was on the loose and was going to kill us all, and then, because I slowly started to realize that my own government was trying to murder me and everyone I love. I have dozens of new gray hairs, and some hair actually falling out from stress.

I begged and pleaded with my father not to take the vaccine, but he did. He had to for his job. His job he plans on retiring from in a couple years anyway.

A week ago, I had a dream that I was screaming over his ashes in a box.

I don't think we're all going to make it out of this alive, whatever the hell all this is.

I honestly do not want to be alive in 40 years. I think shit is going to get a whole hell of a lot worse and I do not want to be around for the real bad times.
 
Ok everybody get ahold of yourselves! Dear sweet home Alabama, at this rate stress is going to kill us all before any bioweapon or government conspiracy. And let me tell you suicide by stress is a very crappy way to go out.

Say this is all one hundred percent true, say the government is trying to force artificial selection. Do any of us here have any solutions we plan on jumpstarting?

If not, why are we here stressing about it while we could be out thier maximizing our chances of making it through this or at the very least making the most of our time on earth while we have it. Save our money, don't take the Vaccine if we still have questions, do some prepping spend time with our families, get married, enjoy getting out, enjoy nature ect ect. Stop worrying about the stuff we legitimately can't control and go full throttle on the stuff we can control. Daily simple life has enough stresses as is. No need to worry ourselves to an early grave by adding to it.
 
I mean, can you really blame anyone for not having a plan? I have no idea what I could even do. I've gotten the two Pfizer shots, and already have the weird side-effect of being magnetic in my upper body, and who knows what else? This is partly because I caught Covid anyway, likely the Omicron variant based on the symptoms I had. It's also entirely possible that I am still sick with Covid based on the sinus symptoms and shortness of breath I am experiencing. I have spent a fairly large amount of money on investigating this, mostly looking for signs of heart inflammation, and have come up with nothing. So what else can I do, other than to continue my original long term plans?
 
I mean, can you really blame anyone for not having a plan? I have no idea what I could even do. I've gotten the two Pfizer shots, and already have the weird side-effect of being magnetic in my upper body, and who knows what else? This is partly because I caught Covid anyway, likely the Omicron variant based on the symptoms I had. It's also entirely possible that I am still sick with Covid based on the sinus symptoms and shortness of breath I am experiencing. I have spent a fairly large amount of money on investigating this, mostly looking for signs of heart inflammation, and have come up with nothing. So what else can I do, other than to continue my original long term plans?

Continue your original long term plan.
 

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