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Bear Ribs · Jul 28, 2021

Megadrought Poses 'Existential' Crisis in California and the West

A scorching "thousand-year" drought made worse by climate change is draining reservoirs at an alarming pace, fueling massive wildfires and withering California's crucial Central Valley agriculture economy.

sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com

Things are about to get way worse for California. Yeah, they're cutting Arizona and Nevada's share of the Colorado River first because of course California gets special treatment. But even so, California is basically using more water than the river can possibly supply at this point and even California's being forced to sharply curtail water supplies, even to not giving water to farmers they've already paid the state for.

Bacle · Jul 28, 2021

Bear Ribs said:
Megadrought Poses 'Existential' Crisis in California and the West

A scorching "thousand-year" drought made worse by climate change is draining reservoirs at an alarming pace, fueling massive wildfires and withering California's crucial Central Valley agriculture economy.

sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com

Things are about to get way worse for California. Yeah, they're cutting Arizona and Nevada's share of the Colorado River first because of course California gets special treatment. But even so, California is basically using more water than the river can possibly supply at this point and even California's being forced to sharply curtail water supplies, even to not giving water to farmers they've already paid the state for.

The Colorado River Compact is a fossilized piece of legislation, and the allotments in it are based off a 'wet' period in the late 1800s when the compact was written.

It needs to be updated and revised to account for that, and to account for the different population growth rates along the river's route.

Though not surprised this year is bad; last winter was a pretty dry one west of the Divide, and the reservoirs in the upper reaches of the river are already going to be historically low (1 will be 90-100 ft below norm).

Typhonis · Jul 28, 2021

Bear Ribs said:
Megadrought Poses 'Existential' Crisis in California and the West

A scorching "thousand-year" drought made worse by climate change is draining reservoirs at an alarming pace, fueling massive wildfires and withering California's crucial Central Valley agriculture economy.

sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com

even to not giving water to farmers they've already paid the state for.

What can the farmers do to collect the money then? If I pay for something and it is not delivered am I not due a refund?

Cherico · Jul 28, 2021

Bear Ribs said:
Megadrought Poses 'Existential' Crisis in California and the West

A scorching "thousand-year" drought made worse by climate change is draining reservoirs at an alarming pace, fueling massive wildfires and withering California's crucial Central Valley agriculture economy.

sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com

Things are about to get way worse for California. Yeah, they're cutting Arizona and Nevada's share of the Colorado River first because of course California gets special treatment. But even so, California is basically using more water than the river can possibly supply at this point and even California's being forced to sharply curtail water supplies, even to not giving water to farmers they've already paid the state for.

the stupid thing is we have the pacific ocean right next door and reverse osmosis tech is getting better all of the time, we litterally have everything we need to fix the problem forever but cant because we are stupid as fuck.

boomghost · Jul 28, 2021

Cherico said:
the stupid thing is we have the pacific ocean right next door and reverse osmosis tech is getting better all of the time, we litterally have everything we need to fix the problem forever but cant because we are stupid as fuck.

doesn't that tech usually take a bunch of electricity though? considering california won't use nuclear energy I doubt they'll use any energy intensive fixes to their problems

Cherico · Jul 28, 2021

boomghost said:
doesn't that tech usually take a bunch of electricity though? considering california won't use nuclear energy I doubt they'll use any energy intensive fixes to their problems

We of all people should be using nuclear thorium for example is very promising technology.

but the problem wont be solved until after we crash and burn and the economy implodes, only once the parasites leave the state can we start to fix the problems they caused.

boomghost · Jul 28, 2021

Cherico said:
We of all people should be using nuclear thorium for example is very promising technology.

but the problem wont be solved until after we crash and burn and the economy implodes, only once the parasites leave the state can we start to fix the problems they caused.

yeah, but then the parasites will head to republican states and shit them up! keep them, we don't want them. (or send them to NYC)

prinCZess · Jul 28, 2021

Cherico said:
the stupid thing is we have the pacific ocean right next door and reverse osmosis tech is getting better all of the time, we litterally have everything we need to fix the problem forever but cant because we are stupid as fuck.

There would be a certain inherent irony and silly humor/absurdity in California buying electricity for its grid from other western states--usually produced by hydroelectric power--to run desalination plants to help it produce water because it cannot buy/beg/steal enough water from other western states to supply itself.

It's like a layer-cake of failure that Californian politicians are insistent on folding in half and calling it progress instead of trying to cut into and make smaller.

Urabrask Revealed · Jul 28, 2021

Cherico said:
only once the parasites leave the state

Oh hell no. These parasites should be having their citizenship revoked and exiled into some third world shithole.

Cherico · Jul 28, 2021

Urabrask Revealed said:
Oh hell no. These parasites should be having their citizenship revoked and exiled into some third world shithole.

I find your terms acceptable.

AspblastUSA · Jul 28, 2021

Think we can still buy one of the Caribbean islands? Could dress the place up as a resort-like socialist paradise and then just cut it free after everyone moves in.

Cherico · Jul 28, 2021

AspblastUSA said:
Think we can still buy one of the Caribbean islands? Could dress the place up as a resort-like socialist paradise and then just cut it free after everyone moves in.

We already have the virgin islands and peutorico.

Robovski · Jul 28, 2021

Cherico said:
We already have the virgin islands and peutorico.

Those are valuable. Change Wake island to Woke island, they can keep on having the power and water problems already present in California.

Captain X · Jul 28, 2021

I'd rather take Greenland off of Denmark and send them all there.

Typhonis · Jul 28, 2021

Captain X said:
I'd rather take Greenland off of Denmark and send them all there.

Oh hell no, Have them fuck up the Greenland ice sheet?

PsihoKekec · Jul 28, 2021

How about diversification of Haiti?

boomghost · Jul 28, 2021

PsihoKekec said:
How about diversification of Haiti?

send them to south africa, let them enjoy their increasing diversity

f1onagher · Jul 29, 2021

Captain X said:
I'd rather take Greenland off of Denmark and send them all there.

Greenland is chock full of valuable rare earth minerals (which is the dirty reason why the Danes won't sell) so don't send them there. Drop them off in refugee boats in the Mediterranean and let Europe have them. They'll love all those enlightened social democracies.

In reality, Bill Maher of all people made a poignant point a few months back when he pointed out that we're going to have to learn to live with one another since even a war won't get rid of everyone. I say Cherico takes one for the team and California keeps its asshole population through the learning experience.

Jormungandr · Jul 29, 2021

f1onagher said:
Greenland is chock full of valuable rare earth minerals (which is the dirty reason why the Danes won't sell) so don't send them there. Drop them off in refugee boats in the Mediterranean and let Europe have them. They'll love all those enlightened social democracies.

In reality, Bill Maher of all people made a poignant point a few months back when he pointed out that we're going to have to learn to live with one another since even a war won't get rid of everyone. I say Cherico takes one for the team and California keeps its asshole population through the learning experience.

Greenland's receding ice-sheets are starting to reveal very rich, fairly easy to access veins of much sought after minerals and other vital natural resources. Frankly, Denmark isn't going to pull a Russia-Alaska deal (though, in Russia's defence, they didn't know that Alaska was chocked full of oil and the like) with the US.

Val the Moofia Boss · Jul 29, 2021

Bear Ribs said:
Megadrought Poses 'Existential' Crisis in California and the West

A scorching "thousand-year" drought made worse by climate change is draining reservoirs at an alarming pace, fueling massive wildfires and withering California's crucial Central Valley agriculture economy.

sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com

Things are about to get way worse for California. Yeah, they're cutting Arizona and Nevada's share of the Colorado River first because of course California gets special treatment. But even so, California is basically using more water than the river can possibly supply at this point and even California's being forced to sharply curtail water supplies, even to not giving water to farmers they've already paid the state for.

California has been doing this for a long time. Los Angeles doesn't have any of its own water. It's dependent on water being funneled from the Central Valley, which is why Central Valley is constantly on drought watch. The counties in Central Valley, like Kern County, can't use any of its own water. Kern County has to buy water from Northern California for its crops while the Kern river - which has more than enough water for Kern County - is piped off for LA. Kern county is like a vassal/imperial province beholden to LA.

Rising water fees should help encourage more people to leave the megacities.

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