Most of that is fairly standard advice for avoiding STD's. None of which would be a problem if these people didn't live in a culture in which sexual promiscuity has been normalized.
China Wuhan Virus Pandemic
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Most of that is fairly standard advice for avoiding STD's. None of which would be a problem if these people didn't live in a culture in which sexual promiscuity has been normalized.
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The WHO has been lying about this since January, and you choose to believe them now? We have multiple studies confirming asymptomatic transmission, over, and over, again:
Using ILI surveillance to estimate state-specific case detection rates and forecast SARS-CoV-2 spread in the United States
Incidence, clinical outcomes, and transmission dynamics of hospitalized 2019 coronavirus disease among 9,596,321 individuals residing in California and Washington, United States: a prospective cohort study
For example, by mid-April Germany was finding: "~14% of germans already immune, ~2% currently infected, IFR 0.37% in mass testing" -- indicative of massive asymptomatic spread.
Likewise we know that close to 40% of the infected people on the cruise ship never once developed symptoms. The Chinese themselves confirmed 40,000 asymptomatic cases in addition to the 80,000 symptomatic cases in Wuhan.
Over, and over, and over again--INFAMOUS LIES. And the biggest is that masks do nothing. Because I can reliably predict that what we're going to find out is that the WHO data relies on neglecting for the influence of masks. They said nobody needed masks until this was a worldwide problem, even as their precious Red Chinese friends made them mandatory, and then suddenly masks were helpful once we had avoided them long enough to do nothing.
The correct solution would have been an emergency order requiring everyone in America to wear a mask in public -- combined with a ban on situations where a mask is impossible (i.e., dining in at restaurants and bars). This would have avoided total economic collapse while essentially having greater benefits than the lockdown we did do, in which mask compliance was poor.
Now we should have mandatory mask wearing in public for the duration of the state of emergency, while eliminating all other restrictions promptly. The reason for this is simple -- the mask wearing very reliably drives the R0 down to about 1, even if no other measures are taken. With those measures, it goes below 1.
The reality is, we have never attempted to contain a virus like this before. And we were far more successful than we realised in doing it.But the WHO is responsible for perpetuating infamous lies authored in Red China which allowed this plague to spread to the world.
Tzeentchean Perspective
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Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
Britain's conga line of humiliation is never going to end, is it? Oh well, that aside the BLM protests are being a boon to the British anti-lockdown cause at the moment. No spike in new cases so far and if it holds we have some pretty concrete evidence to say the virus is fizzling out. The same can somewhat be said of the United States, I think.
Terthna
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I have no idea where you're getting your information, but new cases are starting to spike a result of the protests in the US. I suspect the idea that the virus is "fizzling out" is nothing more than wishful thinking on the part of those who are anti-lockdown, and will be firmly disproven over the next week or so.
the lock down didn't work.
Its never going to work, we need to accept that all we can do is wear masks and try to avoid each other until a vaccine gets made, people will die, it will be sad but that's a part of life and we need to accept it.
Terthna
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I've seen evidence to suggest it has, to at least some degree. Then again, I've also seen evidence to suggest it's actually made things worse; and I don't know which are accurate, and which are not, or what other factors may have influenced the results. That said, the lockdown was never going to be a long-term solution; so I believe you're right in that, going forward, masks and distancing are going to be the difference makers until a vaccine is made.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
In the US, with more testing, reopenings and all these riots, the infection numbers have fluctuated but are still going down overtime. There were 27000 reported cases yesterday which is an increase of several thousand compared to previous days. Compared to the virus at its height however, of about 39000 cases, things come into perspective (also its about 21000 today so this could be closer to a standard fluctuation on a continuing downward trend). The death rates meanwhile? Those have gone over the edge of a cliff and keep doing so.
Here's what I use. I have yet to see a reason to question its reliability. And it's even more damning in the UK, considering we had thousands upon thousands of people hit the tightly packed beaches last month with the police powerless to stop them, and the numbers keep going down. I have yet to see this dreaded "two weeks and you'll see" phenomena manifest.
Edit: Also, my mistake, the cases for the 13th June were 25000 instead of 21000, but the principle still stands.
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So, not only was the Surgisphere hydroxychloroquine data complete bunk, but now, information is emerging that the Oxford study used insane, near-lethal doses of HCQ, and that they may have even gotten hydroxychloroquine mixed up with hydroxyquinoline, a completely different molecule.
Oxford scientists were giving people 2.4 grams of HCQ in a 24-hour period. This is lunacy. Nobody should ingest that much hydroxychloroquine in a day, for any reason.
These studies are a complete fucking joke. Medical malpractice and scientific fraud is happening all over the place with this damn virus.
Oxford scientists were giving people 2.4 grams of HCQ in a 24-hour period. This is lunacy. Nobody should ingest that much hydroxychloroquine in a day, for any reason.
These studies are a complete fucking joke. Medical malpractice and scientific fraud is happening all over the place with this damn virus.
Bigking321
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So, not only was the Surgisphere hydroxychloroquine data complete bunk, but now, information is emerging that the Oxford study used insane, near-lethal doses of HCQ, and that they may have even gotten hydroxychloroquine mixed up with hydroxyquinoline, a completely different molecule.
Oxford scientists were giving people 2.4 grams of HCQ in a 24-hour period. This is lunacy. Nobody should ingest that much hydroxychloroquine in a day, for any reason.
These studies are a complete fucking joke. Medical malpractice and scientific fraud is happening all over the place with this damn virus.
But you're missing the bigger picture here.
Trump said it might work as a treatment so it must be bad.
Whats spreading around junk science and lying about a potential lifesaving treatment during a pandemic compared to making trump look bad for a few weeks.
I think the media and the democrats have their priorities right where they want them.
The point of the lockdown was to flatten the curve, not abolish it like so many police departments.
When the lockdown were first announced in March it was because there was a supposed lack of everything from PPE, to testing, to ventilators, to hospital beds in the ICU as well as general data on the virus.
The lockdown was supposed to buy time to slow the pandemic. It was never wait 12-18 months until a vaccine hopefully arrives. The fact everyone including the news media "forgot" this point is just another indictment on them.
Though we must keep in mind the media has been wishing for the outbreak to accelerate and rise within Republican led states for quite some time now after it already devastated New York City and other liberal urban hives of scum and covidity.
When the lockdown were first announced in March it was because there was a supposed lack of everything from PPE, to testing, to ventilators, to hospital beds in the ICU as well as general data on the virus.
The lockdown was supposed to buy time to slow the pandemic. It was never wait 12-18 months until a vaccine hopefully arrives. The fact everyone including the news media "forgot" this point is just another indictment on them.
Though we must keep in mind the media has been wishing for the outbreak to accelerate and rise within Republican led states for quite some time now after it already devastated New York City and other liberal urban hives of scum and covidity.
Morphic Tide
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Unfortunately, any virologist asked in the general sense, so as to distance from the partisan hackery, will point out that such is simply impossible. The Republican states just don't have the population density.
This shit is even shadier than you think.
High Mortality Rate in Intubated COVID-19 Patients in NYC
Comorbidities appeared to play a major role
www.medpagetoday.com
This whole "intubate the fuck out of everyone" protocol is killing people.
COVID-19 causes endotheliitis, capillary leak, and pulmonary edema. It attacks the lining of blood vessels.
COVID-19: the vasculature unleashed - Nature Reviews Immunology
Here, Carmeliet and colleagues discuss the role of endothelial cells in inflammation and viral infection and propose novel therapeutic strategies for COVID-19.
www.nature.com
Do you know what's contraindicated when someone has endotheliitis? Mechanical ventilation. It further weakens and injures the already weakened vasculature of the alveoli.
Endothelial cell signaling and ventilator-induced lung injury: molecular mechanisms, genomic analyses, and therapeutic targets
Mechanical ventilation is a life-saving intervention in critically ill patients with respiratory failure due to acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS). Paradoxically, mechanical ventilation also creates excessive mechanical stress that directly augments ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Neither Remdesivir nor HCQ are particularly effective at suppressing replication of SARS-CoV-2. The most effective antivirals are actually Interferon or Kaletra (Lopinavir/Ritonavir). I watched journos at CNN endorsing Remdesivir even though it doesn't do a goddamn thing and is literally no better than a placebo.
I have already come up with a protocol that would literally save people's lives if they developed COVID-19. It is supported by all the available science and all the information I've gathered about this disease so far:
HFNC - Patients need oxygen support, but intubation should be avoided unless absolutely necessary. A high-flow nasal cannula would provide the necessary oxygen without injuring the lungs the way mechanical ventilation would.
UChicago Medicine doctors see 'truly remarkable' success using ventilator alternatives to treat COVID-19
UChicago Medicine doctors are having success treating COVID-19 patients with non-invasive, high-flow nasal cannulas rather than ventilators.
www.uchicagomedicine.org
Heparin - COVID-19 causes severe clotting. You need some way to thin the blood.
IV Immunoglobulin - The endotheliitis increases vascular permeability and capillary leak/pulmonary edema invariably results. IVIg would help treat this.
Some Studies Suggest Intravenous Immunoglobulin Could Help Treat COVID-19 | BioSpace
intravenous immunoglobulin is a common blood plasma product that is used to treat other immune disorders. Scientists are hoping to use it for COVID-19 treatment.
www.biospace.com
Nitric Oxide Support - By any means necessary. Vitamin D, Citrulline, Arginine, Cysteine, nitric oxide inhalation, hyperbaric oxygen therapy, whatever increases NO and aids the endothelium. COVID-19 promotes NO bioavailability depletion, leading to severe oxidative stress and endothelial dysfunction.
Covid-19 accelerates endothelial dysfunction and nitric oxide deficiency
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Antivirals/Antibiotics - Interferon, Lopinavir/Ritonavir, possibly Camostat, and Azithromycin to tamp down on viral replication and bacterial co-infections. COVID-19 actually decreases the body's own interferon, so dosing patients with interferon acts like interferon replacement.
'It’s something I have never seen': How the Covid-19 virus hijacks cells
The new insights might explain why the elderly are more likely to die of #Covid19 and why antiviral drugs might not only save patients' lives but prevent severe disease if taken before infection.
www.statnews.com
Monoclonal Antibodies - Tocilizumab, Meplazumab, etc. (lowering IL-6 and CD147)
NEJM Journal Watch: Summaries of and commentary on original medical and scientific articles from key medical journals
NEJM Journal Watch reviews over 250 scientific and medical journals to present important clinical research findings and insightful commentary
Meplazumab treats COVID-19 pneumonia: an open-labelled, concurrent controlled add-on clinical trial
Background SARS-CoV-2 is a novel human coronavirus, there is no specific antiviral drugs. It has been proved that host-cell-expressed CD147 could bind spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 and involve in host cell invasion. Antibody against CD147 could block the infection of SARS-CoV-2. We aimed to assess...
www.medrxiv.org
ARBs - Something to block AT1 receptors and prevent the Ang II-mediated hypokalemia, inflammation, oxidative stress, and fibrosis, however, it shouldn't be given to patients with low blood pressure, and there is a risk of going too far in the other direction and ending up with hyperkalemia.
NEJM Journal Watch: Summaries of and commentary on original medical and scientific articles from key medical journals
NEJM Journal Watch reviews over 250 scientific and medical journals to present important clinical research findings and insightful commentary
I am witnessing the systematic murder of my fellow Americans by means of medical malpractice.
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Here's another article on the high prevalence of asymptomatic infection and transmission. We need to get the hell out of the absolutely worthless Red Chinese WHO.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Superstitions Galore: After Bihar, Women in UP Worship ‘Corona Mai’, Offer 'Ladoos' to Appease Her
These women have dug a small pit in the field, filled it with water and each one offers nine cloves and nine 'laddoos' to 'Corona Mai' to appease her.
www.india.com
All hail Corona Chan.
"Everyone knows there is no cure-", jay-sus, does that woman not understand human nature? I guess she's an atheist with how offended she acts over them worshipping an invisible entity that has a pre-made cult on the internet.Superstitions Galore: After Bihar, Women in UP Worship ‘Corona Mai’, Offer 'Ladoos' to Appease Her
These women have dug a small pit in the field, filled it with water and each one offers nine cloves and nine 'laddoos' to 'Corona Mai' to appease her.
All hail Corona Chan.
DarthOne
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Investigations by the National Institutes of Health found that out of the 200 of the scientists investigated, over 90% received undisclosed funding from china
Source:
https://acd.od.nih.gov/documents/presentations/06122020ForeignInfluences.pdf
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Source:
https://acd.od.nih.gov/documents/presentations/06122020ForeignInfluences.pdf
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Americans Should Never Again Comply With Pandemic Lockdown Orders
By treating Black Lives Matters protests differently than other large gatherings, public officials and health experts have exposed themselves as hypocrites.
thefederalist.com
Just another reminder that the left are monsters unbound by truth or morality.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Welp if you refer to The Wuhan Flu as the Wuhan Flu on SB they get their panties in a wad. Maybe the Admins are on the take of the CCP.
They don’t even have to be paid by the CCP, China is something that the Far Left and Globalism are severely attached to
Can’t acknowledge its from China still