China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Tiamat

I've seen the future...
They simply reacted as is their due.

The deal wasn't what they liked and altered it.

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StormEagle

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Im an American before I am a Californian if our stupid polititions try to leave the country I'm joining my fellow americans in putting down the traitors.

I mean... I’d really rather you just move to the US than fight to keep the festering...*remembers New York*.... one of the festering sores on America in the union.

I am personally highly in favor of them leaving, and we can throw parts of Washington and Oregon into the deal as well!
 
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LordsFire

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I mean... I’d really you rather you just move to the US than fight to keep the festering...*remembers New York*.... one of the festering sores on America in the union.

I am personally highly in favor of them leaving, and we can throw parts of Washington and Oregon into the deal as well!

While the talk was started because of Federal response to the Wu Flu, this is heading towards derail territory, so probably continue the subject on a new thread if it's to be followed further.
 

remulian

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I'm sorry but, I disagree with Tim Pool on this one; not about the necessity of protecting our constitutional rights, but that these violent assholes are actually doing that. They're just making the situation worse with their bullheadedness and propensity for violence; they're going to get people killed, again, and give the government another example to point to for why they need to suspend our right to assemble peacefully (temporary, of course). Because clearly, we cannot be trusted with it, if moronic thugs like Aamon Bundy (who, as an aside, believes the Corona virus to be no worse than the flu) are any indication.




Unfortunately, I'm starting to get an inkling that this may come to blows; with those who believe the Cronoa virus is a dire threat on one side, and those who don't on the other, if the developing situation in Idaho is any indication.



Without the willingness and capacity to do violence for an ideal, eventually that ideal will die out.

Treasure and husband your violent nutters, for they are a very scarce and precious resource - the only actual guaranteed catspaws of making the ruling power no matter who they are blink, before things like mass hunger or other such things make everyone else nutters.


You China has now become the only nation on Earth that every other Nation can now say with a straight face.

What Fuck is Wrong with You!!!!

I mean they have literally done so much dirt every nation can now point the finger at them. That is just plain sad.

Why is it sad? Please elaborate.


 

CarlManvers2019

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Without the willingness and capacity to do violence for an ideal, eventually that ideal will die out.

Treasure and husband your violent nutters, for they are a very scarce and precious resource - the only actual guaranteed catspaws of making the ruling power no matter who they are blink, before things like mass hunger or other such things make everyone else nutters.

Violence is something that needs to be tempered and only released when necessary

And when necessary, released in a controlled fashion to cause the right amount of damage in the right areas
 

remulian

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Violence is something that needs to be tempered and only released when necessary

And when necessary, released in a controlled fashion to cause the right amount of damage in the right areas

Indeed. But most of the times the threat of violence is enough to solve the situation without it actually being exercised to its full capacity.

Thus it is quite important for the other side to believe that you are willing to do it. And for your side as well.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Indeed. But most of the times the threat of violence is enough to solve the situation without i t actually being exercised to its full capacity.

I’d say best not to make a martyr out of your enemy

But in this case, I think the enemy can tell the difference between the threats they say others are doing and the ones that others actually ARE AND CAN AND WILL MAKE

They’re used to the guys they call a bunch of fascists to be willing doormats, they’re not used to them actually fulfilling any of the accusations
 

remulian

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I’d say best not to make a martyr out of your enemy

But in this case, I think the enemy can tell the difference between the threats they say others are doing and the ones that others actually ARE AND CAN AND WILL MAKE

They’re used to the guys they call a bunch of fascists to be willing doormats, they’re not used to them actually fulfilling any of the accusations


Which it is why once in a while the tree of liberty needs some watering...
Or a government building burnt.
Or....

You get the idea.
That is why nutters are such an important resource, because some times they actually do it and are not just hot air until the situation forces their hand.
The purging instead of husbanding of radicals and nutters is as a rule a mistake, especially if the others will not.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Which it is why once in a while the tree of liberty needs some watering...
Or a government building burnt.
Or....

You get the idea.
That is why nutters are such an important resource, because some times they actually do it and are not just hot air until the situation forces their hand.
The purging instead of husbanding of radicals and nutters is as a rule a mistake, especially if the others will not.

The Stormcloaks don't or won't realise that The Empire has plans to fuck over the Thalmor LATER

They still need to build up strength, the Thalmor had many losses over the Great War as well and have secessionists both in Valenwood, Elsweyr and even in Summerset/Alinor

Altmer who actually disliked and hated the Aldmeri Dominion’s policies and got killed for it when they went to different lands
 

LordsFire

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The Stormcloaks don't or won't realise that The Empire has plans to fuck over the Thalmor LATER

They still need to build up strength, the Thalmor had many losses over the Great War as well and have secessionists both in Valenwood, Elsweyr and even in Summerset/Alinor

Altmer who actually disliked and hated the Aldmeri Dominion’s policies and got killed for it when they went to different lands

...This is a terrible comparison to make. If the US government was allowing Chinese agents into the US to hunt down, torture, and execute Christians, you'd have an apt comparison.

The Constitution guarantees the right of freedom to peaceably assemble, as well as freedom or religion. Given the actual numbers we're seeing, not the prediction models and the like, it is not unreasonable for people to decide that they get to exercise their constitutional rights regardless of what a given state governor says.

Saying they will respond to force with force gets to being a stickier issue, but as they are not initiating violence, I think a number of people here are over-reacting.
 

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