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China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Zachowon

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I'm expecting Inslee to send the National Guard into Seattle soon.

Oh wow, look at New York:



This is totally happening just as I predicted a whole month ago.

It is to enforce the quarantine. They would not have to be deployed if people weren't stupid enough to leave quarantine
I'm quite calm but expect more infections to happen.

Was your unit going to do those coop exercises with foreign troops?

I heard all those wargames are now cancelled.
All exercises are cancelled yes. And we are always working with ROK. I am part of the only Combined Division in the Army.
 

Isem

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I wonder when they'll close schools and universities.
Well, it finally happened. Schools and the University in Malta were closed today after a new spate of cases were found, some of which hadn't self quarantined. I guess Corona chan's late birthday present finally arrived.
 

Arch Dornan

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It is to enforce the quarantine. They would not have to be deployed if people weren't stupid enough to leave quarantine

All exercises are cancelled yes. And we are always working with ROK. I am part of the only Combined Division in the Army.
Sounds fun it's only war games with the ROK and no one else?
 

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Some much needed good news: canines are safe from the virus itself. Seen it several places now.

Our furry friends are not in danger from the bug.
 

Shipmaster Sane

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Some much needed good news: canines are safe from the virus itself. Seen it several places now.

Our furry friends are not in danger from the bug.
The stories of dogs contaminating people may come from dogs physically carrying contaminants on their fur.
 

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Blame China for the initial response to COVID-19. Trump though still has to be accounted for his actions or lack thereof.

The National Security Council had a unit to handle global health security which he had shutdown in 2018.

Also around that time period the CDC was underfunded enough that it had to cut down on operations in other countries.

In the same year he had withdrawn money set aside for Ebola, money intentionally left to help nip future outbreaks in the bud.

His administration is also still planning to go ahead with cutting the funding for the CDC as well as an emergency fund for infectious disease.
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Confirmed Cases inside of China - 80,981 (26 new)
Confirmed deaths inside of China - 3,173 (11 new)
Confirmed cases outside of China - 44,067 (6,703 new)
Confirmed deaths outside of China - 1,440 (310 new)

Mortality rates remain constant within a narrowing band, in addition average age of death outside of China has ticked upwards slightly once more (although still well within margin of error). As a note, in the United States, the last time a medical emergency was declared of this nature was for H1N1, after over a million cases in the US and over a thousand deaths. Projections at the time for H1N1 were just as catastrophic and panicked from the 'experts' as they are now for COVID-19.

In addition, the House is holding up negotiations on a COVID-19 response package due to Speaker Pelosi demanding that it include direct funding for abortions in contravention of the Hyde Amendment. How funding abortions is related to COVID-19 is well beyond me. This shows just how seriously officialdom is actually taking COVID-19. Ignore what they say, watch what they *do*.
 

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The CDC has been completely useless in this. They’ve been worse than useless. Their test didn’t work! At this point, we should be giving the DOD control over the situation.
The CDC and FDA actually got in the way of private actors trying to give out working tests.

On top of this, Trump's economic stimulus is a dumb idea. Really dumb. Think 1970's economic policy dumb. Basically, we have a supply shortage in that there is nothing to buy. In addition, absence of money in peoples pockets is not what is stopping purchases, but being scared of going outside. A stimulus cannot help with either of these things. Instead, it will just up the deficit and also can increase inflation. Fortunately, a supply side shortage will solve itself given time. Once the Coronavirus passes, the economy should undergo a V-shaped recovery, basically bouncing backs as people make purchases they have delayed.
 
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I will note that the million cases and over 1k deaths *in the US alone* was BEFORE Obama declared a state of emergency. At the time, according to many of the 'experts' who are opining now about about COVID-19, H1N1 was going to be the end of civilization as we know it unless drastic efforts were made and PANIC PANIC PANIC.
 

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What’s needed is a subsidy for businesses to retool their factories to make PPE and other pandemic-fighting gear, and shitloads of it. We need it right the heck now.
Nope, not even that. Businesses will naturally do this as there is demand for such a good, making them more profitable. And that's the invisible hand at work. If the FDA could get out of the way of private actors, though, that would help.
 

Doomsought

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My workplace is having each of their departments to a trial run of having everyone teleworker, so I get to work from home tomorrow. However my department rents office space in a building that also houses a hotel and is connected by sky-walk to the mall and convention center, so I'm just assuming I'm going to get infected if I haven't already.

In addition, the House is holding up negotiations on a COVID-19 response package due to Speaker Pelosi demanding that it include direct funding for abortions in contravention of the Hyde Amendment. How funding abortions is related to COVID-19 is well beyond me. This shows just how seriously officialdom is actually taking COVID-19. Ignore what they say, watch what they *do*.
They were willing to sabotage American foreign relations in order to attack Trump, so I don't think it is beyond them to consider either getting in abortion money or making Trump look bad of the bodies of American citizens to be a Win-win.
 

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Demand surges for PPE are not always good for business. Retooling a production line to produce huge amounts of masks and then watching demand collapse when an epidemic ends can bankrupt manufacturers.


A subsidy from the pandemic fund would act as a hedge against the bust and give companies confidence. We need them to act quickly, without any reservations.
If demand does collapse before the company can get the products to market, then the subsidy to get them to do it was a really bad idea, as now these companies are screwed. I really think letting individual companies decide what to do would be the optimal solution. Maybe just stop the price controls, so that there won't be a supply shortage/demand longage.
 

Spktr Alpha

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In addition, the House is holding up negotiations on a COVID-19 response package due to Speaker Pelosi demanding that it include direct funding for abortions in contravention of the Hyde Amendment. How funding abortions is related to COVID-19 is well beyond me. This shows just how seriously officialdom is actually taking COVID-19. Ignore what they say, watch what they *do*.
They were willing to sabotage American foreign relations in order to attack Trump, so I don't think it is beyond them to consider either getting in abortion money or making Trump look bad of the bodies of American citizens to be a Win-win.
That is par the course. Both Rs and Ds have tried to sandwich in their little amendments to things. I remember in the Obama-era how they seemed so obsessed with demanding Obamacare be repealed every damn shutdown.

That said:

The bill also includes items to provide cash for Food Banks, paid emergency sick days, and assistance to low-income pregnant mothers and the elderly. Which would help to alleviate some financial issues.
 

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That is par the course. Both Rs and Ds have tried to sandwich in their little amendments to things. I remember in the Obama-era how they seemed so obsessed with demanding Obamacare be repealed every damn shutdown.

That said:

The bill also includes items to provide cash for Food Banks, paid emergency sick days, and assistance to low-income pregnant mothers and the elderly. Which would help to alleviate some financial issues.
Good, the whole bill is crap. I kinda hope the whole thing just dies.
 

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