China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

[ShadowArxxy]

No, my argument is that mandating vaccines by any means is a violation of the constitution and that doing it for behavioral engineering reasons goes into terrorism and treason.

On the contrary, the Constitutionality of vaccine mandates has been a settled issue since 1905. See Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11.

The United States as we know it wouldn't even exist were it not for mandatory vaccination, when George Washington personally ordered the mass vaccination of his troops at Valley Forge. And that was with high-risk live smallpox variolation, not even the cowpox vaccine which hadn't been developed yet.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

On the contrary, the Constitutionality of vaccine mandates has been a settled issue since 1905. See Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11.

The United States as we know it wouldn't even exist were it not for mandatory vaccination, when George Washington personally ordered the mass vaccination of his troops at Valley Forge. And that was with high-risk live smallpox variolation, not even the cowpox vaccine which hadn't been developed yet.

This does not prove your point. It only illustrates that measures must be taken to preserve your fighting force, and why soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen all get 'jabbed' in job lots. This is not a parallel to forced vaccination of the general population.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

This does not prove your point. It only illustrates that measures must be taken to preserve your fighting force, and why soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen all get 'jabbed' in job lots. This is not a parallel to forced vaccination of the general population.

Again, forced vaccination of the general population was settled by Jacobson v. Massachusetts.

I merely mention Washington as a supplementary anecdote -- and note that the variolation that he ordered had itself a fatality rate of five to ten percent, which was only slightly better than the 16% fatality rate of smallpox itself.

 

[The Original Sixth]

Id rather die free then a cattle like you bro

Yes, yes--how very brave of you.

Basicall, someone will be smug about having survived when their political enemies didn't, but we don't as of yet know if it'll be the vaccinated gloating over the unvaccinated dying of covid or the unvaccinated gloating over the vaccinated dying of untested vaccine side effects. Or my theory which is that the vaccine probably isn't deliberately harmful since why'd the ruling class want to make not obeying them a society-wide criteria for survival, but is also useless since covid mutates too fast, justifying endless booster shots.

Can someone explain to me why they think that there's some sort of diabolical strategy behind booster shots? You get them every 6 months. They're not addictive, they're not dangerous, and there's no advantage to having to constantly make them, outside of avoiding COVID.

"Good reasoning" is calling Tim Pool a fence sitting pacifistic center left, weedhead a vile hate merchant? The guy's entire rant was a confusing farce.

Tim Pool is a grifter. I don't care what his politics are. He is a slimy, poorly informed grifter who feeds of hysteria. You'd know that if you weren't ignorant as shit.

Timpool seems to rile people up.

No, Tim Pool doesn't rile me up. I don't listen to Tim Pool. Because Tim Pool is an uneducated, former VICE grifter.

This is honestly what I think it is as well.
It isn't deliberately harmful and just useless

How is it useless? It prevents people from all catching it at once, it shields the sick and elderly, and it can reduce the spread through the population. It's a very useful tool. Should they be mandating it? No, not really. But I also don't care to go to bat for anyone adamantly refusing to get the vaccine. As far as I'm concerned, it's not my problem.

 

[Zachowon]

Yes, yes--how very brave of you.



Can someone explain to me why they think that there's some sort of diabolical strategy behind booster shots? You get them every 6 months. They're not addictive, they're not dangerous, and there's no advantage to having to constantly make them, outside of avoiding COVID.



Tim Pool is a grifter. I don't care what his politics are. He is a slimy, poorly informed grifter who feeds of hysteria. You'd know that if you weren't ignorant as shit.



No, Tim Pool doesn't rile me up. I don't listen to Tim Pool. Because Tim Pool is an uneducated, former VICE grifter.



How is it useless? It prevents people from all catching it at once, it shields the sick and elderly, and it can reduce the spread through the population. It's a very useful tool. Should they be mandating it? No, not really. But I also don't care to go to bat for anyone adamantly refusing to get the vaccine. As far as I'm concerned, it's not my problem.

It hasn't stopped people from getting it, and has not stopped the deaths.
They are making it seem like it is the end all be all, and not flawed at all. That it will stop you from getting all but the recent variant so one needs a booster

 

[The Original Sixth]

It hasn't stopped people from getting it, and has not stopped the deaths.
They are making it seem like it is the end all be all, and not flawed at all. That it will stop you from getting all but the recent variant so one needs a booster

Of course you need a booster. The booster helps to combat against the variants that will show up later, as well as reinforce your fading defense. (your body doesn't retain the vaccination forever)

 

[Zachowon]

Of course you need a booster. The booster helps to combat against the variants that will show up later, as well as reinforce your fading defense. (your body doesn't retain the vaccination forever)

Oh I know.
I have tk get Anthrax boosters every now and then, even though technically a series of two.

 

[Typhonis]

The big problems are the Dems were against the Vaccine and the government has a big assed shortage of credibility. This is why people are reluctant. No one in the administration has gone on record and stated. "The vaccine was rushed, we know it. There are problems with it, We know it and are working on it but it takes time. This is a pandemic and we are trying to save as many people as possible. Is it perfect? No but it is the best we have at this time. We ask all of you to give us a chance to help get through this mess."

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

On the contrary, the Constitutionality of vaccine mandates has been a settled issue since 1905. See Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11.

The United States as we know it wouldn't even exist were it not for mandatory vaccination, when George Washington personally ordered the mass vaccination of his troops at Valley Forge. And that was with high-risk live smallpox variolation, not even the cowpox vaccine which hadn't been developed yet.

No, illegitimate rulings by an illegitimate court that hasn't even really enforced its own rulings on the matter outside of public schools do not constitutionality make.

And yeah I am arguing that no sitting SCOTUS has been legitimate since the ACW and states should disregard their decisions whenever they please.

 

[Zachowon]

The military can be forced to get a vax.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Yes, yes--how very brave of you.

Braver than you and more of a man than you will ever be.

Tim Pool is a grifter. I don't care what his politics are. He is a slimy, poorly informed grifter who feeds of hysteria. You'd know that if you weren't ignorant as shit.

Everyone who works in the media or for the government is a liar and a grifter. Everyone period.

That you legitimately thought I took Pool seriously despite mocking him earlier makes you either mentally retarded or so desperate to score an own on me that you'll latch onto anything.

Either way it makes you a titanic sodomite.

As for ignorance, the only poster here spewing shocking ignorance is the moron who compared the worlds shittiest bioweapon to leprosy and the black death.

Aka the guy who got called a retard by half the board 🤣

No, Tim Pool doesn't rile me up. I don't listen to Tim Pool. Because Tim Pool is an uneducated, former VICE grifter.

>uneducated

Opinion discarded.

His lack of a college degree makes him more educated not less.

And a better grifter too.

 

[Bassoe]

...there's no advantage to having to constantly make them...

They're a product everyone has to buy, or at least, have the goverment spend their tax money upon buying on their behalf. Talk about a captive market.

 

[Bacle]

 

[The Original Sixth]

Braver than you and more of a man than you will ever be.

A little wonder then that you spend your nights lusting for a boyfriend-free-girlfriend.

Everyone who works in the media or for the government is a liar and a grifter. Everyone period.

No, they aren't.

That you legitimately thought I took Pool seriously despite mocking him earlier makes you either mentally retarded or so desperate to score an own on me that you'll latch onto anything.

You seemed confused in regards to my "rant". I clarified.

Either way it makes you a titanic sodomite.

Tough talk coming from someone completely incapable of supporting their own arguments. Do you need to tap in someone else now to carry your water?

As for ignorance, the only poster here spewing shocking ignorance is the moron who compared the worlds shittiest bioweapon to leprosy and the black death.

I didn't say it was a bioweapon. Nor does a bioweapon need to be deadly. In fact, COVID would be an interesting take on a bioweapon. It's not immediately lethal, but is highly contagious and forces entire economies to essentially shut down. Of course, given China's position, I don't think they'd want to release such a bioweapon in 2020. My point was that, you do not deter the temptation when you steadfastly refuse to get vaccinated.

Aka the guy who got called a retard by half the board 🤣

Weren't you the sad sack advocating for genocide?

>uneducated

Opinion discarded.

His lack of a college degree makes him more educated not less.

And a better grifter too.

I honestly didn't know that Tim Pool lacked a college degree. I said he was uneducated because when he opens his mouth, stupid shit spews out. Obviously wrong, stupid bullshit.

But I can see how someone as smart as you might think he's clever.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

A little wonder then that you spend your nights lusting for a boyfriend-free-girlfriend.

No, they aren't.

You believing that makes you less credible.

You seemed confused in regards to my "rant". I clarified.

Your clarification made it even worse.

Tough talk coming from someone completely incapable of supporting their own arguments. Do you need to tap in someone else now to carry your water?

The guy who compared coronaviruses to the black death, ebola and leprosy us going to talk about a lack of support to his assertions.

I didn't say it was a bioweapon. Nor does a bioweapon need to be deadly. In fact, COVID would be an interesting take on a bioweapon. It's not immediately lethal, but is highly contagious and forces entire economies to essentially shut down. Of course, given China's position, I don't think they'd want to release such a bioweapon in 2020. My point was that, you do not deter the temptation when you steadfastly refuse to get vaccinated.

"By capitulating to a totalitarian agenda that launched a campaign to erode the already collapsing Republic solely made possible because they seized on a pretext they helped us create. We are proving to an even more aggressive and opportunistic tyrant that we will resist tyranny"

Brilliant!

I honestly didn't know that Tim Pool lacked a college degree. I said he was uneducated because when he opens his mouth, stupid shit spews out. Obviously wrong, stupid bullshit.

But I can see how someone as smart as you might think he's clever.

Being the foremost expert on stupidity and being wrong..

Oh wait no, that means you aren't qualified to express an opinion not be taken seriously nevermind

 

[Bacle]

 

[The Original Sixth]

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And I see we've bottomed out on your ability to carry on either insults or a conversation.

You believing that makes you less credible.

I suppose I see why someone as deep thinking as yourself might be bewildered by the average news source, being too involved to bother doing the slightest bit of research or holding enough knowledge to know when someone is shitting the bed.

Your clarification made it even worse.

Why? Too many big words for you?

The guy who compared coronaviruses to the black death, ebola and leprosy us going to talk about a lack of support to his assertions.

Did my explanation of the danger of a bioweapon with a low lethality rate fly over your head? Would you like to phone a friend to give you a better argument? Or is this where you start screaming incoherently about how I'm a blood traitor?

"By capitulating to a totalitarian agenda that launched a campaign to erode the already collapsing Republic solely made possible because they seized on a pretext they helped us create. We are proving to an even more aggressive and opportunistic tyrant that we will resist tyranny"

Brilliant!

Legal vaccine mandates have been around--as already proven by another member, for over a century.

Being the foremost expert on stupidity and being wrong..

Oh wait no, that means you aren't qualified to express an opinion not be taken seriously nevermind

Is that really the best you've got?

Is your whole account some sort of affirmative action by the mods?

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

And I see we've bottomed out on your ability to carry on either insults or a conversation.

You continue to project.

I suppose I see why someone as deep thinking as yourself might be bewildered by the average news source, being too involved to bother doing the slightest bit of research or holding enough knowledge to know when someone is shitting the bed.

Oh right now, it's not like multiple Presidential elections were compromised involving media coverup, or that the CIA's involvement in directing large media companies isn't so well known it gets talked about in the same vein as the sky being blue or anything. Nah, we're all just dumb and you have the biggest of brains.

Why? Too many big words for you?

Because it was even less coherent and stable than your original tirade.

Did my explanation of the danger of a bioweapon with a low lethality rate fly over your head? Would you like to phone a friend to give you a better argument? Or is this where you start screaming incoherently about how I'm a blood traitor?

None of which is a refutation on the point I, @sir_fire nor anyone else made. It was a really stupid redherring.

Legal vaccine mandates have been around--as already proven by another member, for over a century.

A member who has even less legitimacy than you...Yes and missing my point entirely.

Is that really the best you've got?

Is your whole account some sort of affirmative action by the mods?

Says the self admitted centrist who genuinely believes the media isn't run by the state?

 

[sir_fire]

Go back to SB @Unoriginal Zero, I'm sure your ideas and opinions would be far better received in the Whitehall than here. Given that you're echoing the crap they say ad verbatim.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Go back to SB @Unoriginal Zero, I'm sure your ideas and opinions would be far better received in the Whitehall than here. Given that you're echoing the crap they say ad verbatim.

Oh he's one of the Flagelants?