Touche.
Then why did the COVID take so long to be approved by the FDA?
China Wuhan Virus Pandemic
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Then why did the COVID take so long to be approved by the FDA?
sir_fire
The ASEAN Nightmare
Fix'd.
From what I understand even the vaccine that was approved was only approved for human trials.
sir_fire
The ASEAN Nightmare
A total coincidence why a lot of nurses and medical health professionals refuse to take it then?
Do you have any evidence to support that the current death count is fake?
Again, could you provide any real evidence that it's fake? I doubt you can provide that sort of evidence. You'd need a dedicated team to comb through each and every death, to ensure that the death count was real.
Yes, they wanted to play the blame game with President Trump. That doesn't change facts. Like the massive panic that we saw in China when they realized what the Wuhan was.
COVID has killed 4.5 million people in the past 1 year and a half worldwide. At the rate it's going, it may kill ten million or so over three years.
How and why do you think that's possible? The media throws a fit over the "alleged" number of 660k or 400k back last year when Trump was president. They threw a fit when Biden left Afghanistan to the Taliban. How in God's Green Earth do you think that a vaccine program, STARTED by and paid for by the Trump Administration, is going to avoid media scrutiny? We can't even accept the argument that the media is holding back because of Biden, because if they were, then they'd have done so for Afghanistan. Which was the exact same situation; a process initiated by Trump and finished under Biden.
Or maybe you think it's about control? Okay, why support the vaccines then? If you want people sucking on the government teet and trapped, scared and confused within their own homes, then why say that the vaccines work at all? The last thing they would want is for you to think you might be safe by getting a vaccine, if all they want to do is keep you scared and confused.
Okay, maybe someone might argue that the vaccine is dangerous and they're trying to infect you with something. Okay, except all the people who work in the government who haven't gotten it, are going to be mandated to get it. All the politicians who aren't hardcore Republican have gotten it. The Democrat voters get it in overwhelming numbers. Unless this is some Jones Town shit, how does this make sense?
Or maybe someone might argue that this is just all politics, with smoke and mirrors? Okay, if that's the case, then why do they persist on this well into the Biden Administration? They got what they wanted out of the pandemic scare during 2020. They damaged Trump, they tried to make themselves look good. And now that they're back in power, wouldn't they be better off saying that the crises is over in May (when the vaccines came out) and insist that it was thanks to Biden's leadership and charisma? And if it was all a globalist, technocratic plot, why then would they allow Biden to retreat from Afghanistan?
Want to know my opinion?
My opinion is that the Democrats used the political crises to get as much out of the election as possible. Either by damaging Trump politically, by using judges to expand voting laws, or maybe by outright cheating thanks to social distancing rules. And yet, at the same time, apart from the BLM and Antifa riots, those same Democrats also took those social distancing, mask rules, and vaccine programs more seriously than Republicans. So they obviously view the pandemic as a threat to themselves and others. Did they take advantage of it? Sure? Just like Republicans are now taking advantage of the Afghanistan withdrawal.
And my opinion on Republicans? I think you're all pissed and bitter that the Democrats used COVID-19 to restrict your freedoms and to fuck you sideways during the election. They forced people to wear masks, to social distance, and now you've transferred that anger and aggression against the vaccines, because it's something they like and support. And your politicians are too fucking weak and pathetic to stand up to you all, because they know they'll be out of office if they did. Encouraging poor COVID-19 policies to play up to the crowd.
And if you think they're not fucking pussies, I'll remind you all how they stood around and insisted that the election was stolen while they wrote the certificate saying Biden was legit.
You don't like that I'm indifferent to some of Biden's policies to screw people who don't want to get their vaccine? Well, I don't care for people who spent a year fucking landlords out of money because they didn't want to pay rent. I don't care for people who have spent the past year on their ass, earning a free living--not at minimum wage, but at their previous salary with food stamps and state medical car to boot. I don't care for the people who listen to QAnon and some soyfag vice reject by the name of Tim Pool, swallowing all their vile, stupid bullcrap--getting angrier and angrier with the world, then turn to me and call me a chump for not believing that millions of doctors, nurses, and pharma experts are going to lie through their teeth. And that the media, all the feds, and the President are going to cover it up. LARPing around like they're hard fucking shit because "I WONT GET MY SHOT LIKE THE MAN TELLS ME TOO!"
Do I think that Biden should, by principal, do some of the shit he's going to do? Or that companies should mandate this? No. No, I think we should let nature take its course. Let everyone do what they want and see what happens. Given half the chance, I'd walk over the grave every stupid fuck who didn't get their shot and died of COVID, point, and laugh at their stupidity.
I think stupidity is its own reward. If people don't want to get a shot because they think they don't owe the world shit (but the world owes them a twitter account), then delude themselves into thinking that they're smart and courageous by avoiding a dangerous drug demanded by a tyrant (fucking lol), they deserve what happens to them.
Just like I laughed at the stupid Twitter soyfag who harassed cops every night and tried to prevent them from doing their job. Protecting the poor innocent street gangs from their violence. You know what happened? His kid got shot by a gangbanger. And died. He helped create the very tragedy that befell him. And he did it while doing the wrong, stupid thing. And despite being down a fucking child, he still hasn't learned his lesson. Because he's so blinded by his ideology, he'd rather let those around him die than admit he made a mistake.
That's my position.
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@Vaermina
You seem to be ignoring the long term studies they are doing on pregnant women that will not be completed till 2023 and 2025.
So please stop pretending that 'long term' for effects is a couple months, when there are active multi-year studies being conducted because we do not have a long term picture of how the vax interests with pregnant women and general fertility issues at this point.
I pasted the links for that stuff a while back, and a lot of people seemed to have completely ignored its existence and what it implies for what 'long term' actually us for the vax.
Edit: The links are in the Wu Flu main thread.
You seem to be ignoring the long term studies they are doing on pregnant women that will not be completed till 2023 and 2025.
So please stop pretending that 'long term' for effects is a couple months, when there are active multi-year studies being conducted because we do not have a long term picture of how the vax interests with pregnant women and general fertility issues at this point.
I pasted the links for that stuff a while back, and a lot of people seemed to have completely ignored its existence and what it implies for what 'long term' actually us for the vax.
Edit: The links are in the Wu Flu main thread.
There are plenty of cases especially during the start where COVID deaths were bring claimed and yet nor actually COVID. They were counting people who has it, as a COVID casualty.
I could get sources at a later time, I would have to come through over a years worth if videos from various people and the sources they provided.....
Oh? And the very same people who are trying to cracl down are also the same people who welcomed it into our country. China had a worse COVID then the rest if the world. They had numbers higher then everywhere else, and they were actively hiding them even then.
I did not mention the world. I mentioned the US. Roughly 60 million people die each year. In three years if COVID exists it will not be as deadly and you will be eating out of your government issued bug tray because you decided to think they are gonna stop it. COVID ends when the world submits. Or we get a president who puts tbier foot down.
I honestly have little to no care about the vax. If you wanna get it, go right ahead.
My main thing is, we know Trump was not as I control as we wanted him to be. The establishment played him. Yes be was the one that rushed the vax, yet all the same arguments the right makes now, were being made by the left. Almost like no one should trust the vaccine, especially younger people.
Actually. His mandate has no effect on the Legislation and it has already been confirmed no Congressmember is being forced to get the vax. They can if they want. Most are so old they need it.
The issue a lot of people present is that the overwhelming push to shove this down everyone's throats. To threaten damn near nazi level shit to make people get something they don't need. Why force people to get it?
Oh, the media only turned on Biden once he fucked up in A-stan, but if it was Trump, ot would still be on. "A-stan this, and A-stan that!" But the news has already moved on to focusing on the unvaccinated. Why is that if not to paint the unvaccinatwd as the worse things in the world.
How am I, an unvaccinated person, a threat to someone with the vaccine?
Okay, first things first, the Republicans that actually have support anymore are ones that did try to change things. Did call out the election. Guess what, Trump said get the vaccine if you want to, the guy who started ir all, and was booed.. when the rich get richer off of the Vaccines, those that want to work, to get better, and just happen to be unvaccinated while some person who isn't working, is at home, complaining how the unvaccinated are killing people, when they don't leave thier house because they are scared and are now desperately trying to find a job because they are losing thier free money.
I am only getting the vax because I have to in order to stay in the military. My mother survived COVID without it, and yet 8 soldiers in Forf Bliss died who had the vax.
There is evidence that people who have the vaccine have been hospitalized and died more then the unvaxed. When the majority if people I know that have had it, made it out fine just being VERY sick ir barely sick. None had to go to hospital.
Family friends had to, and they were vaccinated.
The only thing I really care about these days, is kids shouldn't get the Vax as it seems to definitely cause them issues, and it should be a choice and we shouldn't wear masks.
They have proven to be useless.
We are tol to trust the science from a guy who hasn't done any actual medical practice in a VERY long time, and when someone who has calls him out, they are canceled.
Fun fact about all the medical experts you bring up. Any medical expert that brings up anything going against COVID is shut down and hidden away because it actually does real science and questions things, trying trying argue for either kf them.
Why not check both? Why force only one idea?
Biden is definitely going for a full power grab, but his admin were caught off guard when the media turned against them. So they tried to real them back in with COVID, and jt worked.
I hate politics, especially now, but I am just tired of people on both sides pushing thier stuff.
GET THE VAX!
NO DONT GET THE VAX!
How about, I choose for my fucking self.
How about, we focus on the fact Biden is trying to push for things that will make everyday people criminals because the qdmin decided voting red or for Trump is a crime.
Legs just ignore COVID.
If I die from it I die from it.
We should just fucking accept accept and move the fuck on.
If you are scared, get the vax, if you arnt don't. Or improve one's life to be healthier.
Guy of Z
Active member
State of fear predicted this Cheriton coined it
The problem is not the vacine.
The problem isnt even covid, covid has a 99.7% survival rate, the human historical norm is a far far worse death rate from disease. For most of american history the republic has lived along side far worse diseases and didn't respond to them with the kind of authoritarian measures we are seeing right now.
The problem is that insitutional trust has been completely destroyed and no its not because people are nutters or their stupid or their nazis or their evil its because over a period of decades the wests leadership class has degraded the public trust with scandals , bad behavoir and failure. Time after time experts have been caught lying to us red handed.
From the government, corperations, academia, buracracy and media we have seen a toxic mixture of incompetance, greed, arrogance and malice.
The public trust has been systematically destroyed.
presicuting the people who dont take the vacine in this environment is the worst decision you can make, forcing people to have a rushed out vacine is a tall order in a high trust society, doing so when the publics trust has been as publically abused as it has today, thats just going to make everything worse.
The problem isnt even covid, covid has a 99.7% survival rate, the human historical norm is a far far worse death rate from disease. For most of american history the republic has lived along side far worse diseases and didn't respond to them with the kind of authoritarian measures we are seeing right now.
The problem is that insitutional trust has been completely destroyed and no its not because people are nutters or their stupid or their nazis or their evil its because over a period of decades the wests leadership class has degraded the public trust with scandals , bad behavoir and failure. Time after time experts have been caught lying to us red handed.
From the government, corperations, academia, buracracy and media we have seen a toxic mixture of incompetance, greed, arrogance and malice.
The public trust has been systematically destroyed.
presicuting the people who dont take the vacine in this environment is the worst decision you can make, forcing people to have a rushed out vacine is a tall order in a high trust society, doing so when the publics trust has been as publically abused as it has today, thats just going to make everything worse.
Guy of Z
Active member
Id rather die free then a cattle like you bro
He has some good reasoning.
On everything but the vax
prinCZess
Warrior, Writer, Performer, Perv
In fairness, if you're in good health the odds of dying from Wuhan flu are ridiculously-low. So living free is wholly on the table as an option barring gov't mandates driving you into poverty or suicide because you got fired from your job or such.
Bassoe
Well-known member
Basicall, someone will be smug about having survived when their political enemies didn't, but we don't as of yet know if it'll be the vaccinated gloating over the unvaccinated dying of covid or the unvaccinated gloating over the vaccinated dying of untested vaccine side effects. Or my theory which is that the vaccine probably isn't deliberately harmful since why'd the ruling class want to make not obeying them a society-wide criteria for survival, but is also useless since covid mutates too fast, justifying endless booster shots.
"Good reasoning" is calling Tim Pool a fence sitting pacifistic center left, weedhead a vile hate merchant? The guy's entire rant was a confusing farce.
Timpool seems to rile people up.
This is honestly what I think it is as well.
It isn't deliberately harmful and just useless
400K is not "a flu season and a half" of deaths, it's over a decade of flu. U.S. flu deaths in the past decade have ranged from 12K to 61K a year, and average to 36K.