China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Robovski

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I received the J&J shot more than 3 months ago, I'm still here. I had a day of feeling bad and then I was fine. Hopefully it will help if I get exposed, my fiancé would be upset if I died of WuFlu, and I'd hate to have to pay for any hospitalization. Regardless of how it came about *cough China cough* it's still a new viral threat and I'm not a spring chicken.
 

Vaermina

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I received the J&J shot more than 3 months ago, I'm still here. I had a day of feeling bad and then I was fine. Hopefully it will help if I get exposed, my fiancé would be upset if I died of WuFlu, and I'd hate to have to pay for any hospitalization. Regardless of how it came about *cough China cough* it's still a new viral threat and I'm not a spring chicken.
You might wanna see about getting one of the mRNA one's as a booster if you got the J&J shot...
 

ShadowArxxy

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Comrade
Why? So far thr Delta isn't any deadlier then normal COVID.

The numbers I've seen are that Pfizer is about 84%-88% effective against Delta once you've gotten both doses and Moderna is similar. There are no published numbers for J&J, but the AstraZeneca vaccine which uses the same technology is only about 60-66% effective.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Comrade
So vaccine effectiveness.where are the death numbers

I wasn't the one who made that assertion.

I'm saying that the difference in vaccine effectiveness is a standalone answer to your "Why?" -- that's why getting a booster shot of one of the mRNA based vaccines is a good idea if you've only had the inferior J&J.
 

Zachowon

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I wasn't the one who made that assertion.

I'm saying that the difference in vaccine effectiveness is a standalone answer to your "Why?" -- that's why getting a booster shot of one of the mRNA based vaccines is a good idea if you've only had the inferior J&J.
That does make sense on the vaccine part
 

ShadowArxxy

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Comrade
I haven't seen reliable statistics on the changes in mortality, but the Delta variant is definitely recorded as being *far* more infectious. That makes it a public health concern even if it's not any deadlier, and I would argue that the death rate alone is not the only thing to worry about given the increasing reports that COVID survivors often develop long term health problems.

Aside from general reports on that, I can say that one of the two local friends I have who survived COVID several months ago is now exhibiting *very* serious deterioration of their previously stable situation with several other health issues, and the neurologist who was called in for a consult directly confirmed that he's seen a significant trend of people who had epilepsy developing significant neurological damage post-COVID.
 

Bacle

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Well he's not wrong; it's in the ecosystem now, and will probably never truly go away.

The truth is that any chance of keeping this from becoming endemic was lost when China allowed infected people to travel abroad while lying about the lab.
 

Navarro

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Well he's not wrong; it's in the ecosystem now, and will probably never truly go away.

Well, there were still sporadic cases of Spanish Flu right up until the 1950s. And still occasional cases (including fatal ones) of the OG Plague right up till today in the USA.
 

Bacle

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Well, there were still sporadic cases of Spanish Flu right up until the 1950s. And still occasional cases (including fatal ones) of the OG Plague right up till today in the USA.
Huh, didn't know about the Spanish Flu bit.

However I'm well aware of the Plague still being around; fucking groundhogs are found with it every once in a while in the Rockies and elsewhere they dwell.
 

DarthOne

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Sure.

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I haven't seen reliable statistics on the changes in mortality, but the Delta variant is definitely recorded as being *far* more infectious. That makes it a public health concern even if it's not any deadlier, and I would argue that the death rate alone is not the only thing to worry about given the increasing reports that COVID survivors often develop long term health problems.

Aside from general reports on that, I can say that one of the two local friends I have who survived COVID several months ago is now exhibiting *very* serious deterioration of their previously stable situation with several other health issues, and the neurologist who was called in for a consult directly confirmed that he's seen a significant trend of people who had epilepsy developing significant neurological damage post-COVID.
Awfully nice of the Delta variant to show up at the end of Pride Month and Juneteenth...

:unsure:
 

DarthOne

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Are you seriously trying to use a 4chan screenshot to disprove a Scientific America article?
Nope, forgot to include the article link!


Lisbon court rules only 0.9% of ‘verified cases’ died of COVID, numbering 152, not 17,000 claimed

Following a citizen’s petition, a Lisbon court was forced to provide verified COVID-19 mortality data, reports AndreDias.net.
According to the ruling, the number of verified COVID-19 deaths from January 2020 to April 2021 is only 152, not about 17,000 as claimed by government ministries.

All the “others” died for various reasons, although their PCR test was positive.

“We live in a fraud of unprecedented dimensions,” wrote Dias.


“The data are from the Sistema de Informação dos Certificados de Óbito (Death Certificate Information System – SICO), the only such system in Portugal. The reference to 152 death certificated issued ‘under Justice Ministry supervision’ is spurious, as all death certificates are issued under Justice Ministry auspices, being the only institution that issues them.

“In response to a popular suit, a court order was required for the Ministry to respond, desperate not to denounce the fraud.

“All those responsible for handling data from ‘cases’ and ‘deaths’ can, thereafter, only be tried for the crime if there is any dignity remaining in the rule of law,” he continued.

“If these figures are of the same order of magnitude for other countries as well, and there is no reason to assume otherwise, then the plague is a deception of unprecedented proportions and crimes committed against humanity on a huge scale have been committed here.”
 

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