China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Planchar

Professional Propofol Pusher
Just got the vaccine today. So far so good. Just a little bit of arm pain. I will keep you all posted.

I do have this strange desire to eat brains however:unsure:
 

Mimas

Well-known member
I do have this strange desire to eat brains however:unsure:

Hmmm... I would look into specialty head cheeses. Most don't include the brain of the pig, but I'm sure you could find one or more that do.

And if not, you could always make your own. ;)
 

Cherico

Well-known member
Optimates gonna Optimate. Oh well, if they want to spread their ass cheeks for big daddy "Augustus" some years down the line, they can knock themselves out.

The person who will fullfill the role of augustus has not been born yet, and will likely not be born in our life time. Trump was the first Grachi brother.

We get a second populist leader after him and he will be the last chance to reform the system peacefully, if he fails.

Well after that we get full on civil war, then you get a sulla figure who in the name of saving the republic destroys it likely a optimate/democrat. Then you get full civil war again....

If the populist fraction wins and you get very lucky you get a ceasar some one who tries to fix things and then gets assasinated sparking more civil war until you get the Augustus.

If the Optimates fraction wins you get the twisted love child of stalin and hitler who goes out and mass murders people like crazy and murders any one who even looks like a liberal professor. Then after he dies you get civil war until you get an Augustus.




It all goes down to this, the Optimates, democrats ect their urban elites their power is directly tied to the cities. The problem with cities is that its a bitch and a half to have a family there so their population sinks. This is just built into the system. On top of that you have generations of mismanagement and a global credit crunch in two years.

The very foundation of their power their crumbling and the democratic position is even worse then the optimates, because the optimates have the defense of tradition. The democrats have attacked tradtion at every turn, their power is now based on declining aging cities, a shrinking money supply, a media that is growing less and less relevant. Their power is in decline hence why they are freaking out.

And in trying to maintain power at all cost they insure its loss.
 

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
It all goes down to this, the Optimates, democrats ect their urban elites their power is directly tied to the cities. The problem with cities is that its a bitch and a half to have a family there so their population sinks. This is just built into the system. On top of that you have generations of mismanagement and a global credit crunch in two years.

The very foundation of their power their crumbling and the democratic position is even worse then the optimates, because the optimates have the defense of tradition. The democrats have attacked tradtion at every turn, their power is now based on declining aging cities, a shrinking money supply, a media that is growing less and less relevant. Their power is in decline hence why they are freaking out.

And in trying to maintain power at all cost they insure its loss.

Given that our history seems to be trundling along at an accelerated rate, "Augustus" (if he becomes that) may well be born in our lifetime. Indeed, a child alive now may grow to be Caesar.

History does not directly repeat, we must keep that in mind. The populares are in a much stronger position, as whilst Tiberius Gracchus may be martyred, his dumping in the river Tiber became a swim from which he emerged a little damp but still ready to carry on the fight. So that leads to the possibility of both Gracchi brothers taking on the desperately weakened Optimates.
 

Ismar

New member
It absolutely can be a result of conscious fear or cowardice. Some people work themselves into a frenzy, overload, and black out.

Can be regular stress too. I remember a kid in school who fainted during the 3 minute vigil held after 9/11. (He got chewed out badly by the headmaster for that...)
 

PsihoKekec

Swashbuckling Accountant
The person who will fullfill the role of augustus has not been born yet, and will likely not be born in our life time. Trump was the first Grachi brother.

We get a second populist leader after him and he will be the last chance to reform the system peacefully, if he fails.

Well after that we get full on civil war, then you get a sulla figure who in the name of saving the republic destroys it likely a optimate/democrat. Then you get full civil war again....

If the populist fraction wins and you get very lucky you get a ceasar some one who tries to fix things and then gets assasinated sparking more civil war until you get the Augustus.

If the Optimates fraction wins you get the twisted love child of stalin and hitler who goes out and mass murders people like crazy and murders any one who even looks like a liberal professor. Then after he dies you get civil war until you get an Augustus.




It all goes down to this, the Optimates, democrats ect their urban elites their power is directly tied to the cities. The problem with cities is that its a bitch and a half to have a family there so their population sinks. This is just built into the system. On top of that you have generations of mismanagement and a global credit crunch in two years.

The very foundation of their power their crumbling and the democratic position is even worse then the optimates, because the optimates have the defense of tradition. The democrats have attacked tradtion at every turn, their power is now based on declining aging cities, a shrinking money supply, a media that is growing less and less relevant. Their power is in decline hence why they are freaking out.

And in trying to maintain power at all cost they insure its loss.
The history does not repeat, it rhymes. Thus this won't be a carbon copy of Roman history but it will have some similarities.
 

ATP

Well-known member
It seems,that Biden want lockdown of american economy.He certainly want american poor and voting for democrats,but what if they choose another Trump?
 

Planchar

Professional Propofol Pusher
Update now that I am 48hrs out from my first vaccine:
I had some mild joint pains (nothing worse than the flu) that started yesterday when I woke up. My arm was very sore, as well. I also had some significant fatigue yesterday. But after a good nights sleep I am back to normal.
 

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
Update now that I am 48hrs out from my first vaccine:
I had some mild joint pains (nothing worse than the flu) that started yesterday when I woke up. My arm was very sore, as well. I also had some significant fatigue yesterday. But after a good nights sleep I am back to normal.

Sounds round about right. My flu jab left me a bit tired and achy with a headache, but like you a good sleep set me straight.

I feel like this jab isn't quite as frightening as some on the Right have spooked themselves into believing.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
For those who do not know, this type of vaccine (Pfizer one at least) infects some of your muscle cells so that they produce a form of the virus. The thing is, that form of the virus is not capable of reproduction, so your immune system learns to fight it. In the process of fighting it, you still get some illness symptoms, but once your muscle tissue at the injection site stops producing the neutered virus, that's it, it's done.
 

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