China Wuhan Virus Pandemic
- Thread starter Arch Dornan
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Cut that out... The first was already explained to you...
And the second is just a stupid internet rumor.
Yeah, just like the Lab Leak Theory was just a 'stupid internet rumor' at the start.
Doomsought
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There is a very important rule in science: Garbage in : garbage out.
So long as data about negative effects about Vaccines are censored, the results of any studies are fundamentally invalid.
So long as data about negative effects about Vaccines are censored, the results of any studies are fundamentally invalid.
You might want to read the scientific paper linked... You know... Instead of believing a random guy making an unsourced claim on instagram...
Chaos Marine
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Why? Scientists have already admitted they refused to entertain the lab leak theory because Trump supported it. Why should we trust anything they say?
Because this isn't that?
They provided the raw data, so if you want to continue to try and claim they are lying I expect you to show, with evidence, that either they falsified that data or the data itself is just wrong. And no, anecdotal claims by randoms aren't evidence.
Doomsought
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Chaos Marine
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I disagree. I simply don't trust them either. The WHO are clearly in the CCP's pockets. The CDC was a political tool against Trump and Fauci is a hack. I don't trust that the data wasn't tampered with. I'm not quite sure if you realise how badly a lot of people's trust in "the science" has become thanks to the volume of lies discovered and conspiracy theories that are turning out to be true. But I doubt I'll change your mind so all I can say is good luck.
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Yes, yes if fucking is.
You do not seem to understand the level of distrust that people now view the medical bureaucracy/elites in the West on anything regarding the Wu Flu.
Why in the world should we trust anything good said about the vax by Big Pharma, the WHO, the UN, the Biden Admin/Fauci, or CDC, without a container ship full of salt?
Distrust fir anything related to the government as I have noticed from yall
Because the US gov has shown it is one of the biggest, most direct enemies of the American Constitution and populace in current times.
Add in all the ways they are using the Wu Flu and now 1/6 to bypass Constitutional limits and laws, in order to create a defacto police state nationwide, after a stolen election...why the fuck would we trust the US gov?
We have no problem calling out how our govs actions have destroyed public trust in many institutions/professions or admitting things are probably FUBAR, even if it rankles you because you swore to serve said gov, despite the fact many parts of said gov likely view you as a Nazi now.
Why in the world should you trust some random guy on the internet with no evidence of his claims?
Because there is a large amount of distrust for the government right now.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
I don't trust the 'official sources' either, so I don't trust them when they claim the vaccine is 'safe.'
However, that distrust of them, also does not translate into automatically concluding that the horror stories are true.
There's probably some cases with blood clots, with fertility complications, etc. But how many? At what proportion?
If it's a thousandth of a percent, I'm not worried. If it's a tenth of a percent, I'm maybe mildly worried.
The thing is, because of how politicized this is, I don't see any sources I can trust on this one way or the other yet. And until I have some reason to trust the data of someone in particular, I'm not going to conclude it's 'safe' or the tool of a conspiracy that wants to depopulate the Earth.
However, that distrust of them, also does not translate into automatically concluding that the horror stories are true.
There's probably some cases with blood clots, with fertility complications, etc. But how many? At what proportion?
If it's a thousandth of a percent, I'm not worried. If it's a tenth of a percent, I'm maybe mildly worried.
The thing is, because of how politicized this is, I don't see any sources I can trust on this one way or the other yet. And until I have some reason to trust the data of someone in particular, I'm not going to conclude it's 'safe' or the tool of a conspiracy that wants to depopulate the Earth.
Blood clots, with the deactivated virus vaccine, which is the only one they showed up in, were something like 1 in 40,000.
Extremely minor heart inflammation in those ages 16-39 occurred at a rate of something like 1 in 50,000. (This is transient and self resolving outside of even rarer cases.)
And there have been no recorded instances of vaccine caused fertility complications. (Though ironically there have been many many cases of Covid caused fertility complications.)
Chaos Marine
Well-known member
Wow, that sounds totally fair. Not all suspicious! Surely something that had a massive fatality rate, like even ten to twenty percent for all age brackets would warrant something like that, not something that barely affects a fraction of a percent for a few days with very good chances of recovery.
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Lower death rate doesn’t make delta variant less dangerous
The delta variant of the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 has been found to be far more infectious than the original cor
www.politifact.com
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