China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Bacle

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Or maybe the people in DC, including the DoD, don't want to acknowledge the bug is a bioweapon, possibly an incomplete or unfinished one, who's presence outside the Wuhan lab could either be purposeful, or negligence in disposing of lab carcases, BECAUSE they know admitting that would mean admitting we, and other nations, haven't retaliated to a WMD attack.

Or it could be worse, and the financial ties between the Wuhan lab and Fauci could implicate people in the US in assisting in the development of this bug using US tax dollars funneled to the Chinese CDC.

DC has lots of reasons to deny this is a bioweapon, and most of those are based on saving face or preserving the current power structures, not because they think this thing was a natural bug that just popped up in Wuhan one day.
 

Cherico

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Or maybe the people in DC, including the DoD, don't want to acknowledge the bug is a bioweapon, possibly an incomplete or unfinished one, who's presence outside the Wuhan lab could either be purposeful, or negligence in disposing of lab carcases, BECAUSE they know admitting that would mean admitting we, and other nations, haven't retaliated to a WMD attack.

Or it could be worse, and the financial ties between the Wuhan lab and Fauci could implicate people in the US in assisting in the development of this bug using US tax dollars funneled to the Chinese CDC.

DC has lots of reasons to deny this is a bioweapon, and most of those are based on saving face or preserving the current power structures, not because they think this thing was a natural bug that just popped up in Wuhan one day.

I think there is a possibility it was a bio weapon but I think if it was the chinese released it by accident because their people are just that incompetent. Quite simply put the way it all happened shows gross incompetance not maliciousness.
 

Bacle

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I think there is a possibility it was a bio weapon but I think if it was the chinese released it by accident because their people are just that incompetent. Quite simply put the way it all happened shows gross incompetance not maliciousness.
See, the thing is DC cannot even admit that possibility in an official capacity.

Because releasing an incomplete or unfinished bioweapon accidentally from a Level 4 bio-lab due to negligence, and letting it get loose internationally, still calls for massive and punishing sanctions at very least.

A lot of places want Chinese money and goods, including here in the US, and it seems a lot of the US political class has connections to China and the CCP. So sanctioning China for what they have done, as would be required by admitting this is bug a bioweapon wittingly or unwittingly released from the Wuhan lab, is not going to happen on an official level in DC.

Our leaders sold this country out to the CCP long ago, we just didn't realize how truly bought by China we are as a nation, till now.
 

Cherico

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See, the thing is DC cannot even admit that possibility in an official capacity.

Because releasing an incomplete or unfinished bioweapon accidentally from a Level 4 bio-lab due to negligence, and letting it get loose internationally, still calls for massive and punishing sanctions at very least.

A lot of places want Chinese money and goods, including here in the US, and it seems a lot of the US political class has connections to China and the CCP. So sanctioning China for what they have done, as would be required by admitting this is bug a bioweapon wittingly or unwittingly released from the Wuhan lab, is not going to happen on an official level in DC.

Our leaders sold this country out to the CCP long ago, we just didn't realize how truly bought by China we are as a nation, till now.


Funny story China's response to the covid issue is to try to piss off the entire world to provoke a nationalist backlash to maintain control over their country. So their going to keep punching those leaders who sold us down river in the face over and over and over again.

They either respond with the trade war they never wanted or get to be emasculated publically.
 

Zachowon

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It was not a fucking bioweapon Bacle.
Most of the world had started to cut ties because of it.
Of they wanted to use it as a bioweapon they fucked up hard, especially with thier dam about to burst, and possibly losing more people to that then covid...
 

Doomsought

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If china accidentally released a bioweapon, they would have spared to efforts to sterilize the site. If it was a bioweapon, the communists would have burned down Wuhan with its inhabitants.
 

Zachowon

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If china accidentally released a bioweapon, they would have spared to efforts to sterilize the site. If it was a bioweapon, the communists would have burned down Wuhan with its inhabitants.
Yeah, they would not want it to be tracked to them. Because it gives us a reason to not go nice should we go to war....
 

Bacle

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Yeah, this bug will control our lives, for the rest of our lives, if we listen to these assholes and thier recommendations.

We will either get to the point of just living with the virus the same way we live with many others, or we will let it destroy our freedoms, liberties, and rights in a way our enemies (both foreign and domestic) have long desired.

The states opening back up might be able to reverse the inertia that has built up; we need to pray they do, because the other option...that's not a world worth living in.
 

Zachowon

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Yeah, this bug will control our lives, for the rest of our lives, if we listen to these assholes and thier recommendations.

We will either get to the point of just living with the virus the same way we live with many others, or we will let it destroy our freedoms, liberties, and rights in a way our enemies (both foreign and domestic) have long desired.

The states opening back up might be able to reverse the inertia that has built up; we need to pray they do, because the other option...that's not a world worth living in.
When the rest of the world is normal and we arnt, the dems can't hold us in any longer, plus they know the people are tired of it.
Hell, it seems Biden is planning in letting us out.
 

Bacle

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When the rest of the world is normal and we arnt, the dems can't hold us in any longer, plus they know the people are tired of it.
Hell, it seems Biden is planning in letting us out.
Biden is dangling the July 4th date only because a bunch of Red states are ending thier restrictions already, and he has to be seen as giving some bit of light at the end of the tunnel.

But I'm not holding my breath as long as Fauci is part of the advisory staff, or as long as the mandates and lockdowns are profitable for big businesses that want to kill small business competition.

That's also not dealing with the factions of the Left and World Economic Forum who want thier 'Great Reset' or the radical greens who want to push the lockdowns for 'ecological' reasons.

The real tell will be if Biden tries to use Fed power to force more lockdowns in the event of 'flare ups', either via force or withholding funding for those states till the go back into lockdown.

I put very little past the Biden regime, or the people pulling Biden's/Harris's strings.
 

Zachowon

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Biden is dangling the July 4th date only because a bunch of Red states are ending thier restrictions already, and he has to be seen as giving some bit of light at the end of the tunnel.

But I'm not holding my breath as long as Fauci is part of the advisory staff, or as long as the mandates and lockdowns are profitable for big businesses that want to kill small business competition.

That's also not dealing with the factions of the Left and World Economic Forum who want thier 'Great Reset' or the radical greens who want to push the lockdowns for 'ecological' reasons.

The real tell will be if Biden tries to use Fed power to force more lockdowns in the event of 'flare ups', either via force or withholding funding for those states till the go back into lockdown.

I put very little past the Biden regime, or the people pulling Biden's/Harris's strings.
I am telling you to calm down and relax.
The people will not stand for this any longer.
 

StormEagle

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I am telling you to calm down and relax.
The people will not stand for this any longer.

*Snorts derisively*

The people. I say those words with as much disdain as I can possibly muster.

A good portion of the citizenry of the USA have proven that they will lie down, stick their ass in the air, and ask Uncle Sam to be gentle on the way in.
 

Zachowon

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*Snorts derisively*

The people. I say those words with as much disdain as I can possibly muster.

A good portion of the citizenry of the USA have proven that they will lie down, stick their ass in the air, and ask Uncle Sam to be gentle on the way in.
A lot more keep growing tired of everything. They can't keep us locked down for ever. Especially with more disdain for the party that is keeping keeping locked down
 

Bacle

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I am telling you to calm down and relax.
The people will not stand for this any longer.
Yes, some people won't stand for it, and some are doubling down.

Like Gov Polis in CO extended the current mask mandate another 30 days when Texas and Miss said they were going to open up.

This isn't about safety anymore, and probably never was; it was about power, and Covid restrictions have given authoritarians in the Fed and State levels a way around a lot of Constitutional limits they ran against before. It also was very useful in pushing mail-in voting to make elections fraud that much easier.

And the people saying the bug may never be gone, and now be endemic to our biosphere, may not be wrong either. Which means there will never be an 'end' to this pandemic.

I'd prefer to give people a harsh, unhappy reality than give them false hope.
 

Zachowon

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Yes, some people won't stand for it, and some are doubling down.

Like Gov Polis in CO extended the current mask mandate another 30 days when Texas and Miss said they were going to open up.

This isn't about safety anymore, and probably never was; it was about power, and Covid restrictions have given authoritarians in the Fed and State levels a way around a lot of Constitutional limits they ran against before. It also was very useful in pushing mail-in voting to make elections fraud that much easier.

And the people saying the bug may never be gone, and now be endemic to our biosphere, may not be wrong either. Which means there will never be an 'end' to this pandemic.

I'd prefer to give people a harsh, unhappy reality than give them false hope.
We will grow immune. Or at least resistant enough.
Stop worrying dude.
 

Bacle

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We will grow immune. Or at least resistant enough.
Stop worrying dude.
Did you not see how the CDC modified it's own definition of 'herd immunity' to make it so it only works with vaccines? Or how they keep finding new 'variants' they act like we will need a whole new vaccine for?

Did you not see how the double standards applied to lefty vs GOP leaning gatherings regarding Covid, or how they are putting illegal aliens at the border ahead of people legally in the US?

Have you not seen how many busybodies are using the virus and mandates to become petty tyrants in so many places?

Do you really think the Dems will let go of the power this bug has handed them?

Sure, red states are starting to end the mandates and such, but we already had your Commander-in-Chief threaten Florida with what amounts to a Federal blockade for daring to open up, and insult other states for doing the same.

The Dems will drag this out as long as they can, and I expect they will find a way to do it again for some other bug down the road. The genie is out of the bottle, and the Dems know they can pull shit like this again if they just scare the public enough.

We are likely headed to 1984/Brave New World territory, and I feel there is little anyone can do to stop it anymore; Wu Flu is just the excuse they international elite, including a lot of DC, needed to make it happen.
 

Zachowon

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Did you not see how the CDC modified it's own definition of 'herd immunity's to make it so it only works with vaccines? Or how they keep finding new 'variants' they act like we will need a whole new vaccine for?

Did you not see how the double standards applied to lefty vs GOP leaning gatherings regarding Covid, or how they are putting illegal aliens at the border ahead of people legally in the US?

Have you not seen how many busybodies are using the virus and mandates to become petty tyrants in so many places?

Do you really think the Dems will let go of the power this bug has handed them?

Sure, red states are starting to end the mandates and such, but we already had your Commander-in-Chief threaten Florida with what amounts to a Federal blockade for daring to open up, and insult other states for doing the same.

The Dems will drag this out as long as they can, and I expect they will find a way to do it again for some other bug down the road. The genie is out of the bottle, and the Dems know they can pull shit like this again if they just scare the public enough.

We are likely headed to 1984/New World territory, and I feel there is little anyone can do to stop it anymore; Wu Flu is just the excuse they international elite, including a lot of DC, needed to make it happen.
This is what they want you to act. Lose hope.
Calm down, retain hope...
 

Bacle

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This is what they want you to act. Lose hope.
Calm down, retain hope...
I'd prefer to be realistic, and not pretend things are better than they are, or likely to get better in the long term.

We have a few slivers of hope for things, but the powers that want this 'new normal' are far more powerful than the forces who want thier lives and freedoms back, and I won't pretend otherwise.

False hope does more damage than harsh realism.
 

Zachowon

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I'd prefer to be realistic, and not pretend things are better than they are, or likely to get better in the long term.

We have a few slivers of hope for things, but the powers that want this 'new normal' are far more powerful than the forces who want thier lives and freedoms back, and I won't pretend otherwise.

False hope does more damage than harsh realism.
Doom and pessimism drives one into a depressed state, and makes one focus to much on such a thing.
So yeah...don't lose hope.
 

Bacle

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Doom and pessimism drives one into a depressed state, and makes one focus to much on such a thing.
So yeah...don't lose hope.
Dude, I've been dealing with clinical depression since I was fucking 7, and understand the damage false hope does to people already dealing with problems.

I doubt there are many people not depressed on some way by what has happened with Wu Flu, and giving them false hope will only make this worse if things go bad again, or I should say get worse than they already are.

I'll call out legit hope where I see it, but don't ask me to sugar coat things.
 

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