Would you save your Dog or a Stranger?

Scottty

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The question though needs more background. Save how or from what?
I would try to convert the stranger to Christianity of course, in order to save his or her soul. I don't consider this needed for a dog.
 

Fleiur

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One side of the debate believes that one has an obligation to one's own family members - even the non-human ones - that one does not have to complete strangers.

The other side... well their perspective, which is an alien one to me, seems to be based on claiming moral superiority due to lack of such natural affection.
Okay. Hmmm. It's not claiming moral superiority due to lack of natural affection. I will put it in a way of which one would you give up if it will comes down to you will have to give up one. It is a tough and/or hard decision, but you have to give up one. I know I asked an animal over a human being. Tough decision making. But you need to choose one.
 

Fleiur

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The question though needs more background. Save how or from what?
I would try to convert the stranger to Christianity of course, in order to save his or her soul. I don't consider this needed for a dog.
It is which one would you save, your dog an animal over a stranger a human being.
 

CarlManvers2019

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...Strangers might be friends you haven't been introduced to yet but my dog is a friend right now...

Dog.

Ever read Vinland Saga, one monk made some sort of speech and philosophy about if “Love existed in this world” he told Prince Canute that what his father figure felt for him was NOT Love it was “Bias”

Because his father figure was willing to do things like allow an entire village of innocents to get raided by vikings if it meant that said vikings would escort the prince
 

ShadowsOfParadox

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Because his father figure was willing to do things like allow an entire village of innocents to get raided by vikings if it meant that said vikings would escort the prince
Appropriate decision.

My opinion on anyone who says "I love everyone in (insert large group of people lead by person) like my children." is to say "Ok, let's call CPS on this person because something is wrong in their family."
 

Lanmandragon

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One side of the debate believes that one has an obligation to one's own family members - even the non-human ones - that one does not have to complete strangers.

The other side... well their perspective, which is an alien one to me, seems to be based on claiming moral superiority due to lack of such natural affection.
Bull one side loves thier pet yet reconizes said pet is still just an animal. I'd obviously prefer to not be in this position but your way off base. I mean if you said anything approaching that to me in person. We'd be throwing hands pretty quickly. Seriously don't ever imply I don't love my family again.
 

Lightershoulders

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I would save my dog, but my dog might try to save the stranger depending on the situation. (Like a bear is about to attack.)

Stupid loveable idiot is smart enough to see when someone is in danger. If my dog likes the guy, well, that kinda puts me in a bind I wouldn't know the answer to. I would try to save my dog, but to do that I may have to save the stranger which puts it all into question since the question implies I can only save one of them and self sacrifice not being an option.

If my dog doesn't like the guy, well, he is shit out of luck.
 

Emperor Tippy

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My family -> my friends -> my pets / unknown children -> unknown adults in need of saving because of things beyond their control -> animals that I don't dislike -> adults in need of saving because of their own stupidity.
 

Fleiur

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My family -> my friends -> my pets / unknown children -> unknown adults in need of saving because of things beyond their control -> animals that I don't dislike -> adults in need of saving because of their own stupidity.
Yes. Hierarchy. Good.
 

Rocinante

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Random human and random dog, I save the person.

Random person and my dog, I save the dog.

Family and my dog, I save the person.

Yes i value and love my dog (technically my parent's dog, but I lived with him for years,) more than a stranger. It's not "just a dog," he's a loyal companion and I love him very much.
 

Lanmandragon

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My last post was somewhat confrontational. I apologise for that specfically to @Scotty but to me. Implying I don't love me family. Is thr same thing as saying I'm not a man. As a man is his duty and no duty outweighs the duty to family.
 

Terthna

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I need more to go on; what am I saving them from? Am I even capable of saving either of them? Why can't they save themselves, and why can't I save both of them? I'm sorry, vague thought experiments just don't sit well with me.
 

Lanmandragon

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I need more to go on; what am I saving them from? Am I even capable of saving either of them? Why can't they save themselves, and why can't I save both of them? I'm sorry, vague thought experiments just don't sit well with me.
The nature of the question preculudes thought. It's a situation where you must act on instinct. Which is the point as reacting on principles is instinctive by its very nature.
 

Terthna

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The nature of the question preculudes thought. It's a situation where you must act on instinct. Which is the point as reacting on principles is instinctive by its very nature.
I reject the very concept. I'm autistic; I don't have instincts. Or at least, none that tell me anything other than I should be very, very confused.
 

Lanmandragon

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I reject the very concept. I'm autistic; I don't have instincts. Or at least, none that tell me anything other than I should be very, very confused.
That's fine I don't try and impose my morality on others. I do however hold mine in the absolute sense. Which means I willing and (very very) aboe yo fight to defend it.
 

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