Alternate History World War III: 1988, aka "The War of '88"

[CarlManvers2019]

and shut up about how 'great' communism is, we'll look the other way about all that crap you've been saying for the past several years." Win-win.

Maybe also replace some required desire to tax the rich, because "We're a society of plenty" and instead encourage things like Charity and Investments or Entrepreneurship

I mean, guys in Hollywood are rich and tend to go Champagne Socialist, why not ACTUALLY repeatedly show and try being an example by giving to charity and paying for some kids' education. No need to force people with laws to pay more, just encourage with example to give charity and invest in your homes and neighbourhoods.

 

[Tiamat]

Hey folks, added a quick blurb in the story, a comment from one of Merono's advisers to illustrate their POV a bit more. Thanks again for the feedback!

 

[CarlManvers2019]

What happens to interracial relations in the USA? I think Democrats even back then were having a sort of "hold" over minorities on them going that "The Right=Systemic Oppression, Big Democrat-Liberal Government Will Always Solve Everything"

 

[CarlManvers2019]

@Tiamat
Say, do you know any other Alternate History sites? Other than the one ruled by CalBear and Ian The Admin? Also, with the requirement of NOT having a strong WOKE douchebag level of control?

 

[Tiamat]

What happens to interracial relations in the USA? I think Democrats even back then were having a sort of "hold" over minorities on them going that "The Right=Systemic Oppression, Big Democrat-Liberal Government Will Always Solve Everything"

Eh, hadn't given that much thought. Besides, with a looming war, or several, honestly, I think race relations are gonna be the least of anyone's worries.

@Tiamat
Say, do you know any other Alternate History sites? Other than the one ruled by CalBear and Ian The Admin? Also, with the requirement of NOT having a strong WOKE douchebag level of control?

None that I know of, sorry. I do know the Twilight 2000 RPG forums site though, if you're interested in the alternate history with that game:

Twilight 2000 Forum - RPG Forums

A lightly moderated discussion forum related to the game Twilight 2000.

forum.juhlin.com

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Race Relations are something that could be used against the non-Communist Nations, just point out repeatedly how this free market and capitalism loving may shit on minorities somehow, and you may get lots of potential rebellions. Also, repeated accusations of Nazism may win the Communists’ PR battle against the Western and West-Aligned Powers

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Say, just how good are Communist Militaries, really? I’m not sure if today’s North Korea and back then had similar firepower

 

[Tiamat]

Say, just how good are Communist Militaries, really? I’m not sure if today’s North Korea and back then had similar firepower

That’s a pretty broad question. Short answer: While ideology can certainly play a role, the bigger issues as to what makes a countries military "good" aren't necessarily defined by ideology alone, though it can certainly play a role. Organization, funding, training, materials, defined roles, strategies and tactics, leadership (VERY important), overall morale, and even traditions all play a role. CurtisLemay, want to chime in here?

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I always thought that weirdly enough Communist Nations were a military industrual complex of their own, special prioritization towards the military due to how expensive it all is and paranoia/fear for outside invasions

 

[Doomsought]

That’s a pretty broad question. Short answer: While ideology can certainly play a role, the bigger issues as to what makes a countries military "good" aren't necessarily defined by ideology alone, though it can certainly play a role. Organization, funding, training, materials, defined roles, strategies and tactics, leadership (VERY important), overall morale, and even traditions all play a role.

From what I understand, the Soviet model is better for using uneducated troops. Lower level officers have less decision making capability and are more predictable by higher level officers.

The NATO style of giving lower level officers a bit of tactical decision making to react relies heavily on having a highly educated populace. It doesn't work well for some third world countries America tries to give military training to.

 

[Tiamat]

Hey guys, thanks again for the thumbs-up and feedback. Working on the next part, but if you were at all wondering what's next, here's a hint if it wasn't obvious:

"My fellow Americans, as of 8PM this evening, Eastern Standard Time, ground, naval and air forces of the United States are now engaged in combat with the military and paramilitary forces of the socialist regime of Mexico. This unfortunate turn of events was necessitated by the brutal actions of terrorists against our own citizens operating at whim and without consequence from within the border of Mexico, by the blessing of it's leader, Juan Phillipe Merono..."
--Excerpt of speech by President Ronald Reagan, televised January 6 1987, Day 1 of the American Intervention into Mexico

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Is Juan Phillipe Merono going to deny accusations of terrorism or will he rant about the USA being imperialistic and having a border wall?

Also, admittedly I don’t know much about Ronald Reagan but I’m expecting that he’s constantly feeling and thinking “How the fuck is this happening!?”

 

[Tiamat]

Is Juan Phillipe Merono going to deny accusations of terrorism or will he rant about the USA being imperialistic and having a border wall?

A little of both, perhaps? I would argue Merono is not really the "villain" per se in this piece, but unfortunately has some rather not-so-pleasant "friends". More on that soon.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

A little of both, perhaps? I would argue Merono is not really the "villain" per se in this piece, but unfortunately has some rather not-so-pleasant "friends". More on that soon.

Less “villain” and more “Anti-Villain” who is both idealistic and justifies even the most devastating attacks because of how “right” he believes his cause is and how “correct” his methods are

His “friends” are either Yes Men or are also sincere fanatical believers

I’m expecting that any and all problems Mexican economy experiences will be entirely be blamed on the West, either for interfering with their trade, being at war with them or not exactly choosing to help Mexico

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

I’m expecting that any and all problems Mexican economy experiences will be entirely be blamed on the West, either for interfering with their trade, being at war with them or not exactly choosing to help Mexico

Ah, communism and their habit of blaming their misery on outsiders.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Ah, communism and their habit of blaming their misery on outsiders.

Say, what would you respond to Kim Jong-Un in that “The Interview” movie? Those questions that Un has that sorta make it so that his country sounds like it has a hard time due to mostly outside forces?

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Say, what would you respond to Kim Jong-Un in that “The Interview” movie? Those questions that Un has that sorta make it so that his country sounds like it has a hard time due to mostly outside forces?

No idea. I would wonder how I ended up in that situation, but considering his nation routinely engages in belingered behaviour towards other nations beyond what is considered acceptable among diplomats, I believe sanctions to be justified. This said, the famines and general lack of resources are entirely N-Korea's fault, they are regulary given relief aid to lessen the famines, and overall the problems of that nation were and continue to be created by itself.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

No idea. I would wonder how I ended up in that situation, but considering his nation routinely engages in belingered behaviour towards other nations beyond what is considered acceptable among diplomats, I believe sanctions to be justified. This said, the famines and general lack of resources are entirely N-Korea's fault, they are regulary given relief aid to lessen the famines, and overall the problems of that nation were and continue to be created by itself.

Plus, for criticisms of things like a military industrial complex, I’m pretty sure that communist nations spend quite a lot on military

 

[Tiamat]

Hey folks, wanted to apologize for the delay on the next chapter as I recently started a new job, but I should have it up by tomorrow or the day after. It's turning out a bit longer than I thought it would be,, but I promise quite a bit of bloody mayhem in this next installment. Matters get a bit more complicated south of the Rio Grande than anyone anticipated, and the reverberations will be felt far and wide, as the Cubans and Libyans soon find themselves in hot water of their own. Operation El Dorado Canyon II, anyone...?

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Operation El Dorado Canyon II, anyone...?

Sounds like I should refrsh my memory about that operation.