LifeisTiresome
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What country are you from if you don't mind me asking?
Why Men and Women Should Stop Hooking Up.
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Guncannon
Pessimistic Pilot
Culsu isn't talking about just fun.
ShieldWife
Marchioness
I'm from the USA, I live in a small town in Appalachia.
Shipmaster Sane
You have been weighed
Yes he was.
Guncannon
Pessimistic Pilot
He said:
Incompatible sexualities/preferences is a problem in relationships that can seriously snowball. Sex is more than just fun in a long term relationship.
ShieldWife
Marchioness
Having many sexual partners probably can be fun in the short term for those people who do it, but in the long term their lives may be less happy in general - though even more importantly the society created by widespread promiscuity is not going to be one that any of us prefer to live in. Having a health civilization is about more than what gives an individual pleasure in the here and now, but how our actions affect not only our own future but those of future generations too.
Western civilization would be far more likely to survive and flourish for generations to come if more people did wait until marriage to have sex.
Western civilization would be far more likely to survive and flourish for generations to come if more people did wait until marriage to have sex.
Shipmaster Sane
You have been weighed
The only other thing it is, is for procreation, which his post wasn't about.
You know you dont have to have sex, right? You like, wont die.
Guncannon
Pessimistic Pilot
Sex with a trusted loved one helps ease stress, the skin to skin contact and the chemicals released by both partners via boosting the bonding hormone. Happier partners are healthier partners.
Yes you don't need to, but that's irrelevant.
In case the argument is against hook-ups in the sense of one night stands, I'm all on your side that this is a toxic environment we as western societies have steered into. Personal experience however has taught me that sticking with the first person you bond with rarely is the best choice. Maybe that's some US thing, but I'm pretty sure if the people I know had married the first person they courted half of them would have either committed suicide by now - or murder.
Trust me, it was my first sexual relationship, and I was the one trying my best to keep it stimulating. Which isn't all that possible if the other side seems perfectly fine with how things are and doesn't ever mention anything. Nothing to fix if it's never communicated to be broken. *shrugs*
This isn't about mere fun, it's about fulfilling emotional needs in a relationship. A healthy sex life reduces stress and increases the emotional bonding between the partners. An unfulfilled sex life in a relationship is a breeding ground for resentment.
No, I wasn't. I was talking about a healthy long-term relationship.
Yeah. And in that case I don't need a relationship or marriage with the other person. Then it's just a mixed-sex shared apartment arrangement.
ShieldWife
Marchioness
It is true that if everybody married their first partner, some would end up regretting it.
On the other hand, such widespread monogamy would force us to be a bit wiser about who see choose to date, have sex with, or even marry. In fact I think that one of the major negative consequences of permissible promiscuity is that it causes us, especially women, to be less discriminating regarding who we have sex with which leads to a whole host of other social problems.
On the other hand, such widespread monogamy would force us to be a bit wiser about who see choose to date, have sex with, or even marry. In fact I think that one of the major negative consequences of permissible promiscuity is that it causes us, especially women, to be less discriminating regarding who we have sex with which leads to a whole host of other social problems.
I don't always trust things like it.
You work form home right? If you do that explains a lot as in families that work two jobs (Both parents) Generally have less kids as it lowers stress of having more things to worry about. One needs to take into account that not every woman wants to be a home body. Some like to actually get out there and do things, they like to be treated as more then just a loving wife at home, but as a best friend to hunt or game with etc. Large families are counter towards that in western culture where women and men are seen as equal.
Perhaps wanting women to not be homebodies is the end of western civilization, perhaps it isnt.
I am in a weird spot in lifepersonally, Kinda desperate but I have learned better about myself and about things. One should find a partner they know they enjoy sex with as well as romantically enjoy, because a relationship without one or the other in this day and age Is hard to come by.
From knowing people, even the good ol Christian girl, most girls of my generation lose their virginity in highcool to college and end up settling down sometime after college with a man far removed form the type they first slept with.
Fleiur
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What happens when you prevent them? What are the results for everybody?
What do you mean?
Abhishekm
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The think with sex is yes it 'can' have benefits in a relationship and people 'can' be better off for having sex in a relationship before marriage. But on average is that really the case? It has potential benefits and the benefits of waiting for marriage are far from absolute.
But against statistically and from a on average point of view people would far more likely be better off waiting for marriage or at the very least a very very solid relationship with a partner sharing the same life goals before engaging in sex. That goes for both genders and in the vast majority of situations.
Does that mean it should be legally enforced or even governement encouraged? No, the less politicians get involved in relationships the better in my view. But should people consider this when making their choices and should parents strongly encourage these values in their children? Absolutely.
Most arguments to the contrary stem from either a view of sex as primarily a easy means to pleasure or as a causal process that really undermines it.
But against statistically and from a on average point of view people would far more likely be better off waiting for marriage or at the very least a very very solid relationship with a partner sharing the same life goals before engaging in sex. That goes for both genders and in the vast majority of situations.
Does that mean it should be legally enforced or even governement encouraged? No, the less politicians get involved in relationships the better in my view. But should people consider this when making their choices and should parents strongly encourage these values in their children? Absolutely.
Most arguments to the contrary stem from either a view of sex as primarily a easy means to pleasure or as a causal process that really undermines it.
LifeisTiresome
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Its why I advocate for just cutting women from the equation entirely and just using artificial wombs. People may say problem is no families. We just have single mothers anyway so the traditional family is dying anyway.
We have single mothers because of the free money from the government.
LifeisTiresome
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And women made the choice to do this.
You either have women who have no kids or women who are single mothers as the future of the West if nothing changes ignoring outliers like what @ShieldWife has mentioned.
If that is true there is no changing it and all men should die since it seems there will be no continuing of our generation/s
The government paying for single mothers making it so they have no need for fathers to help pay or making the fathers pay via child support makes it so women are less likely to stay with a man if they have a kid. Make it so the money they get and hand outs they get are so small it doesnt make them able to live reasonably. Make it so having the father makes life ya know...livable....
Women made the choice because the government pushed them there.
LifeisTiresome
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Aka taking away something from Women. That is what you are advocating for here.
As for humanity dying out? Well some parts of the left advocate for that so they win then.
I am advocating to push for dual parent households. Be them 2 men, 2 women, or 1 male 1 female couples. They will ALWAYS be better then single parent. That is what I am advocating for.