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Beardius Prime said:
I don't understand the constitution
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Which part don't you understand? The US Constitution isn't written in anything more than common academic English of the 18th century, it's not even written in 18th century English legalese (seriously, you can look up contracts and the like from the 18th century, it's not quite modern Legalese, but it's a far cry from how the US Constitution was written). Sure, some of the language is slightly archaic due to being written, well, 250ish years ago and languages shift, but it's still completely understandable.

Or is your lack of understanding more esoteric, in the sense you don't understand the reason and purpose behind the various parts of it? If it's the second, I'd be more than happy to break down just about any part of it and explain the underlying history behind it.
 
Beardius Prime said:
You're previous post makes a lot of sense.

I wish you and future generations good luck to continue the rights you enjoy thanks to your founding fathers. They have made a rather interesting nation. I don't understand the constitution but it's clear to me it was set up for good reason at that time.
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Thank you, I rather hope we do as well. And I wish your own nation, whatever it might be, the best of luck in its own pursuit of happiness, life and liberty.
 
Aaron Fox said:
Given memetics (and not simply 'weaponized propaganda', we're talking 'things that make you have no free will' here, although it isn't at that point yet) is becoming a thing and biotech is heading towards 'do it in the basement' level, the only way forward is -sadly- essentially eliminating privacy and restricting speech and information to combat such threats.
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There's no psychological evidence for magic words that instantly turn you into a cultist. Real brainwashing is dependent on a controlled flow of information and emotional attitudes, something that you're directly encouraging to be handed to the same genocidal memeplexes that rule us now.
 
King Kravoka said:
There's no psychological evidence for magic words that instantly turn you into a cultist. Real brainwashing is dependent on a controlled flow of information and emotional attitudes, something that you're directly encouraging to be handed to the same genocidal memeplexes that rule us now.
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That... isn't entirely accurate. The strike package that went into Britain in 2016's Brexit referendum and the US's 2016 elections via Russia's wide-spectrum attack in cyber and real space already shows that memetic weapons are going to be a thing. Add with human psychology and you'll see memetic weapons that take more and more free will out of the equation...
 
Aaron Fox said:
That... isn't entirely accurate. The strike package that went into Britain in 2016's Brexit referendum and the US's 2016 elections via Russia's wide-spectrum attack in cyber and real space already shows that memetic weapons are going to be a thing. Add with human psychology and you'll see memetic weapons that take more and more free will out of the equation...
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Who knew how powerful a frog could be?
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
Who knew how powerful a frog could be?
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Especially when worked into simply tipping the scales to an end that would see as much chaos as possible? Yeah, it's powerful.

Yeah, nation-states and civilizations always have put their wellbeing ahead of everything else. Depending on various contexts (mostly social, technological, and economical), this can be either better for the rich or the people. I wouldn't be surprised that in the next few decades, something like this would be showing up on our internet connections and other electronic media:

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Simply put, our technological context has basically shifted so hard that everything else is out of wack... and the sooner we humans recognize this, the better off we'll be.
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
@Aaron Fox
It says something when people believe that an OK Sign is a symbol for white supremacy because of internet trolls

Though, I think it also says something about the people who believe it themselves

You can be exposed to an idea or information, whilst both understanding and doubting it
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Signs have always been argued, taken advantage of, and otherwise used by various groups over the centuries, for better or for worse.

The Swastika was used to be a sign of fertility and health for several cultures across the globe, but the Nazis transformed it into a symbol of hate whose tarnishment of the symbol will likely last till almost the end of the century as long as those neo-nazi idiots keep using it as the actual Nazis did.

The key problem is the assumption that humans follow something similar to the writings of Rousseau when the reality is, sadly, closer to Hobbes...
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
@Aaron Fox
Yeah, but still gonna be real funny when a black dude is accused of being a white supremacist for drinking milk and doing an OK sign
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That... is basically going overboard and going overboard tends to get the people doing so screwed and/or killed.
The Swastika wasn’t a common everyday thing before even WWII, I think
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It was a key cultural icon in several cultures across the world including native american ones oddly enough.
 
Aaron Fox said:
That... is basically going overboard and going overboard tends to get the people doing so screwed and/or killed.
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Or people look and see the whole ridiculousness of a black guy being called a Nazi and get some rather serious doubts and no one follows through ehatever attempts to ruin the guy

Like ANTIFA calling two old prople Nazi’s and blocking their way, who would think the old people are Nazi’s?
 
Aaron Fox said:
That... isn't entirely accurate. The strike package that went into Britain in 2016's Brexit referendum and the US's 2016 elections via Russia's wide-spectrum attack in cyber and real space already shows that memetic weapons are going to be a thing. Add with human psychology and you'll see memetic weapons that take more and more free will out of the equation...
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What's really innovative about the (((Russians))) was that time they shouldered blame for increasing proletarian discontent on a cabal of foreign social engineers.
 
S'task said:
Which part don't you understand? The US Constitution isn't written in anything more than common academic English of the 18th century, it's not even written in 18th century English legalese (seriously, you can look up contracts and the like from the 18th century, it's not quite modern Legalese, but it's a far cry from how the US Constitution was written). Sure, some of the language is slightly archaic due to being written, well, 250ish years ago and languages shift, but it's still completely understandable.

Or is your lack of understanding more esoteric, in the sense you don't understand the reason and purpose behind the various parts of it? If it's the second, I'd be more than happy to break down just about any part of it and explain the underlying history behind it.
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It's the second until I use some of my own time to look up the entire constitution.

I know a little about the two amendments since it's always brought up. First was free speech and second was the right to use guns. The other amendments I don't know at all unless I look it up.

The intention behind it I understand a little. Your founding fathers succeeded in separating from the British and King George so they established their own ideas on government with fellow members who had experience in law to establish their ideal society with checks and balances.
 
2nd I think, most people on the Left keep saying to ONLY be about the use of “muskets” and if you are or will be part of some legal “militia”
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
2nd I think, most people on the Left keep saying to ONLY be about the use of “muskets” and if you are or will be part of some legal “militia”
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I find this argument very amusing because it ignores that even back then people had gatling guns, and yes, these weapons were considered legal to own by the founding fathers. The "muskets" argument is just another diversion tactic of the Left to try and steal your guns. Anything they say should be treated as a lie, half-truth, or distraction.
 
Beardius Prime said:
I know a little about the two amendments since it's always brought up. First was free speech and second was the right to use guns. The other amendments I don't know at all unless I look it up.
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Actually the 1st Amendment is a LOT more than Free Speech. The First Amendment is Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Publication, Freedom of Peaceful Assembly, Freedom to Petition, and Freedom of Conscious.

The 2nd actually is broader than most people think too, the operative term in it isn't "gun" or "firearm", it's the general word "arm", which in the 18th century covered everything from guns to swords to halberds to knives. Under a strict interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, it can be argued that one should be totally legally allowed to walk around with a sword on your hip.
 
CarlManvers2019 said:
2nd I think, most people on the Left keep saying to ONLY be about the use of “muskets” and if you are or will be part of some legal “militia”
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Which is the exact opposite of what it means, since a well regulated militia would be equipped with military grade arms. I'm pretty sure that most of the Artillery we had during the revolutionary war was privately owned.
 
S'task said:
Actually the 1st Amendment is a LOT more than Free Speech. The First Amendment is Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Publication, Freedom of Peaceful Assembly, Freedom to Petition, and Freedom of Conscious.

The 2nd actually is broader than most people think too, the operative term in it isn't "gun" or "firearm", it's the general word "arm", which in the 18th century covered everything from guns to swords to halberds to knives. Under a strict interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, it can be argued that one should be totally legally allowed to walk around with a sword on your hip.
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No, no. You're missing the upper end. Citizens back then had the right to private warships with cannon.
 
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