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RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
German Empire
Zone Occupied by the People's Republic of Poland
1 April 1974/1914
Usedom Island
Town of Usedom/Uznam
13:45
Ludwig Schiele, the mayor of Usedom, tried to work in spite of the Polish soldier standing and watching him in his office. Unfortunately, he couldn't concentrate and kept glancing at the Pole surreptitiously every few minutes.
When he won the mayoral election to replace his rather shabby predecessor, Mr. Paul Tromer, a man who wasn't an overly bad mayor but who twice in a row during his time in office suddenly disappeared to find himself elsewhere the last time he even enlisted in the French Foreign Legion Good God! What he didn't expect was that barely a month later his small town would be invaded and occupied and he would be forced to obey the orders of the occupant.
And of all the nations and countries of the world, he absolutely did not expect that the one who would invade his town would be Poles. Where did they come from? He wondered all day long, looking at how Poles acted very crazy and improvise he thought that they also do not know the answer.
They were strange, he had to admit. They wore very strange uniforms that were supposed to be camouflage but the pattern on them turned into a solid mass from a distance, other weapons that were very strange to him, they drove very strange automobiles everywhere, not resembling any he knew, but he had to admit that they were much faster and safer than he knew, and it seemed that almost all of them could drive without much trouble, which seemed impossible considering the vehicles he knew and the skills required to drive them.
Well, they always called him Kamerad, comrade, like socialists and communists, and the fact that they came from one thousand nine hundred and seventy-four over a whole sixty years later frightened him. Could it be that Marx and Engels were right? Communism is the future and not far off at all?
No... he told himself quietly so the Pole wouldn't hear him, it's a lie, it's not true, it's impossible. But the fact is that in his office and in the town hall sat Polish soldiers from the Polish People's Republic where communism reigns, as their Major ... Shchepanak told him? Never mind this Slavic gibberish, what puzzles him more is why the Polish border is on the eastern side of the island. What happened to Germany that not only did Poland return to the map, but its western border went deep into Reich territory!
He did not know the answer, the Polish Major did not want to tell him and the one who guarded him was ordered not to speak with him, most surely. All he had was the laconic, Germany lost the war and gave up Polish territory.
But what war, when and with whom he did not get an answer and the major told him firmly that he was not going to answer him, but to obey his orders. He gave him a clear hint of what would happen if he disobeyed. The example of several police officers who refused to lay down their arms and locked themselves in the police station let him know what the end of resistance would be. The Poles quickly surrounded the building and then proceeded to storm it. The fight lasted barely half an hour before the policemen surrendered. Their pistols, revolvers and two carbines were no match for the Polish rifles, which were as fast as Maxim machine guns, and every Polish soldier had one.
Although he had been in the army barely two years to fulfill the duty of conscription and was not much interested in how it all worked, he saw perfectly well the advantage such a weapon gives over a typical Mauser rifle. And this he saw clearly during the assault, because he observed the whole event with his own eyes after he failed to encourage the policemen to surrender.
They destroyed all the windows, the front wall of the building was badly punctured and out of more than 12 policemen only four remained. These four were later showily shot by the Poles in front of the whole town, and the Polish major added with a noticeable sadism that any serious resistance would be brutally pacified and punished by death. The Polish soldiers were apparently pleased to see the horror of the Germans, and behaved like a victim taking revenge on his tormentor.
And here he came to the greatest puzzle, namely, noticeable not so much dislike, as hatred for the townspeople, a few times he was kicked by a Pole as he passed by.
Only the children were exempt from this contempt, although they tried to keep them away from vehicles and weapons, and fortunately the parents' fear for them meant that few children approached the Poles because they were watched to make sure they did not tease them.
Although it must be added that they were very interested in the soldiers and stared at the Poles with curiosity, and they were especially interested in the Polish automobiles that drove to and from Usedom.
Honestly the number of vehicles which appeared in the town by Poles was huge in his eyes. And there was no parking place for them, so the army occupied the entire city park and the square in front of the town-hall for their needs, forbidding the entry of civilians without an important matter.
But nevertheless the Poles were not a nuisance, yes, unpleasant and malicious, but they were bearable. They did not fall into houses, did not accost anyone and did not even try to force their order, although here he knew that this was because Poles only just occupied the town.
No, more problematic were the aristocracy and other bloated rich people who were surprised by the invasion. The biggest headache was the fact that they tried to leave the island via a ferry crossing that the Poles had closed to civilian traffic.
They tried to get to the commander but he didn't give a damn about them so all the trouble fell on his head and he had to listen to their complaints about how they were treated and their demands. Informing them that Poles are communists so they don't care about their status and that he has no influence on the Polish commander, on the contrary, he must obey the orders of the Pole did not go through their thick skulls.
And here he was a little thankful for that guard in his office, with his strangeness and coolness he kept them in line and helped ask them out of his office.
Further musings and failed attempts to focus on his work were interrupted when Schiele heard the sounds of fighting coming from the distance. "What is going on?" Said the Mayor, to which the guarding Pole replied, "What do you mean, what Kamerad? Ours and yours are fighting over the bridge west of town."
The German was surprised, "What bridge? There's no bridge there, just a ferry crossing, there are no bridges on the whole of Usedom except for Swinemunde and the one for trains, but that's south of town in Karmin."
The Pole nodded "Well never mind, most likely someone is attacking but unlikely to pass." And the German reluctantly agreed with him.
Karmin
Railway Station
125 WOP Battalion
Captain Piotr Napierała cursed nastily as he bent down under the station window, but his curse was drowned out by the cannonade of rifle fire from Polish AK and the weak counterfire of German Mausers. He had bad luck, apparently today there was a train full of soldiers going to Swinemunde to the local garrison, about the existence of which they learned only after one of the railwaymen involuntarily told them why they were happy about the approaching train.
Unfortunately, they managed to sabotage the train under Polish noses in order to stop it at the station. Unfortunately for the Germans, Napierała quickly took advantage of this to ambush and kill the people in one of the carriages in which there were soldiers by throwing grenades inside and firing from the AK.
Unfortunately it turned out that there were even more German soldiers and they relatively quickly gathered themselves for a counter-attack. The problem was that his battalion was tiny in comparison to a typical one, its size more resembling a half-company than its name. While the Germans were probably a whole battalion and a half.
Yes, they have an advantage in fire, theoretically, because each of them has only four magazines for AK, except of course for their LMG operators in the form of one D rkm, that is Soviet RPD and two withdrawn from ground troops DPM, that is fortunately the better post-war version.
That is why the whole battalion was besieged in the railroad station surrounded by Germans. Damn bad luck and irony that he had to hide from a bunch of Krauts armed at most with Mausers, because he didn't have enough ammunition to shoot them down using the advantage of fire which for Germans might as well be heavy machine gun fire.
No wonder, nobody assumed that WOP would fight on foreign territory. The only good thing in this situation was that the Germans managed to nail them down and the reinforcements were not far away. "How much longer?" He growled to the radio operator hiding behind the column, "Five more minutes, Captain." he got a quick answer.
"Kurwa mać" Cursed the Captain again then moved from under the window and began reloading his unloaded AK. He was just inserting his last allotted magazine. "We can't last five fucking minutes with this shooting." And it must be added that the Poles were saving ammunition, or at least they tried to save, but many packed too much ammo into the Germans hiding all over the neighborhood.
Fortunately, none of the Poles died, although a few were wounded, most of the Germans shot blind and tried not to get killed when they exposed themselves to shoot and in view of the fact that a Mauser to kill has only one attempt before it is necessary to reload the weapon. Which makes almost all their shots hit clearly past the target into the wall.
Here Polish MGs did a lot of work, their deadly rapid-fire and especially RPD allowed to nail Germans on the platform and those in front of the main entrance.
Private Jan Kowalski standing behind RPD was particularly distinguished this day, it was him who made the Germans either run away from the platform or be mowed down like corn when they tried desperately to charge bayonets or at least fight hand-to-hand.
When Napierała reloaded his AK he began to carefully observe the surroundings, slowly leaning out of the window. When he noticed the movement of a gray spot passing between the houses opposite the station, he quickly drew a long burst. Whether he hit the target he did not know, but it seemed to him that he heard a wave of moaning and cursing in German coming from there. Unfortunately, he could not look at the place when a Mauser bullet whistled unpleasantly close to him and flew past his head and into a soldier running behind him. He quickly hid behind a wall without provoking the fate.
He only noticed the wounded man after someone shouted "Gustaw's hit!" Gustaw rolled to the side then grabbed his left arm when he realized he was bleeding. "Paramedic! I need a fucking paramedic!" he began shouting horrified at the cacophony of screams and gunfire. The Captain quickly bending down ran over to the wounded man then began dragging him away to safety.
He dragged him to the ticket counter behind which one of the terrified ticket inspectors was hiding. He tried to give him a sign to give him a first aid kit, but the German was too terrified by what was happening to react. Or maybe he did not even know what he was talking about?
Minor, the paramedic had already managed to run up and start dressing the wounded man. "I'll take care of him Captain you can go..." He paused then gestured to the Captain "The Captain is going to have quite a scar on his cheek right here." Napierała touched the spot shown and checked his hand. Blood indeed, he didn't feel it as he got it through the adrenaline. He waved his hand at it "It's just a scratch."
Then he returned to his window. At first he wanted to continue firing, but he noticed that Germans slowly stopped shooting. Instead they were trying to escape. Unfortunately, the Poles slowly started to run out of ammunition and the AKs stopped playing their music until the only Polish soldiers still shooting from time to time were those behind LMGs, so the way to escape was open.
The Germans at first were reluctant to flee and perhaps a few of them decided to try again to carry out bayonet charges, trying to take advantage of the sudden silence from the Polish side but the ever vigilant DPM gunners knocked such ideas out of their heads, including their very heads.
Probably they would have stayed like this for some time, had it not been for the sudden entrance of Polish reinforcements on a couple of UAZ and WSK 125 and WSK 128 motorcycles to Karmin. The Poles quickly jumped from the vehicles and began to pound the German positions with fire. Some of the Germans immediately deserted, some surrendered raising their hands, some unfortunate Poles in the heat of battle shot them before they realized it. And a few tried to fight to the end using everything what they had in hand.
It took some time to clear the area of fighting German soldiers, so the fugitives managed to escape across the drawbridge.
Napierała sighed in relief, then immediately, "Report how many dead and wounded we have, and the ammunition status." He ordered without delay. The individual platoon leaders sprang to their feet and after barely two minutes he knew that he had no dead, twenty-three wounded, fortunately only most of them were lightly wounded by shrapnel from broken plaster and bricks and a few from glass. Only three were hit by bullets, one of which can be said to have ended his service to the Republic because a Mauser bullet shattered his left hand, the upside in this misfortune is that he is right-handed. The other one was hit like Gustaw in the arm but better because Gustaw's arm had a broken bone and he needed immediate evacuation to hospital. That one didn't.
Unfortunately the number of wounded was a defeat for him, even an insult. His whole "battalion" counted 45 men in total, that means more than half of them were wounded and that in a clash with a surprised enemy! An opponent from the Stone Age in terms of equipment. The other thing was that this clash cooled the enthusiasm and removed any illusions about the invulnerability of both his subordinates and the reinforcements under the command of Second Lieutenant Cegła. Especially painful was the fact that they had the overwhelming advantage of fire only at the beginning. When they had shot two magazines out of four, they had to tighten their belts in order not to become like church jerks.
What's the use of having a higher rate of fire if they can't use it as readily as they should? "We gave the Krauts a solid beating, for 39! Right Citizen Captain?" Said the second lieutenant cheerfully. "We gave the Krauts a solid thrashing on the first of September too, remember that Second Lieutenant." Replied the Captain with a hard face and a stern voice. "This is just the beginning of the beginning, the war hasn't started yet and already we have suffered our first losses."
The second lieutenant frowned as he saw Gustav being carried out of the building. "Will he recover from this?" He asked curiously somewhat fearfully. "If he's on the operating table within the hour then yes." Napierała said dispassionately.
Cegła could only nod at this simple fact. None of them are immortal, they are not gods just humans with a terrifying technical and organizational advantage but they are not invulnerable in pure shooting without fire support.
"We're in for some good plowing Citizen Captain" He said after a long moment and the Captain wordlessly nodded in agreement.
Zone Occupied by the People's Republic of Poland
1 April 1974/1914
Usedom Island
Town of Usedom/Uznam
13:45
Ludwig Schiele, the mayor of Usedom, tried to work in spite of the Polish soldier standing and watching him in his office. Unfortunately, he couldn't concentrate and kept glancing at the Pole surreptitiously every few minutes.
When he won the mayoral election to replace his rather shabby predecessor, Mr. Paul Tromer, a man who wasn't an overly bad mayor but who twice in a row during his time in office suddenly disappeared to find himself elsewhere the last time he even enlisted in the French Foreign Legion Good God! What he didn't expect was that barely a month later his small town would be invaded and occupied and he would be forced to obey the orders of the occupant.
And of all the nations and countries of the world, he absolutely did not expect that the one who would invade his town would be Poles. Where did they come from? He wondered all day long, looking at how Poles acted very crazy and improvise he thought that they also do not know the answer.
They were strange, he had to admit. They wore very strange uniforms that were supposed to be camouflage but the pattern on them turned into a solid mass from a distance, other weapons that were very strange to him, they drove very strange automobiles everywhere, not resembling any he knew, but he had to admit that they were much faster and safer than he knew, and it seemed that almost all of them could drive without much trouble, which seemed impossible considering the vehicles he knew and the skills required to drive them.
Well, they always called him Kamerad, comrade, like socialists and communists, and the fact that they came from one thousand nine hundred and seventy-four over a whole sixty years later frightened him. Could it be that Marx and Engels were right? Communism is the future and not far off at all?
No... he told himself quietly so the Pole wouldn't hear him, it's a lie, it's not true, it's impossible. But the fact is that in his office and in the town hall sat Polish soldiers from the Polish People's Republic where communism reigns, as their Major ... Shchepanak told him? Never mind this Slavic gibberish, what puzzles him more is why the Polish border is on the eastern side of the island. What happened to Germany that not only did Poland return to the map, but its western border went deep into Reich territory!
He did not know the answer, the Polish Major did not want to tell him and the one who guarded him was ordered not to speak with him, most surely. All he had was the laconic, Germany lost the war and gave up Polish territory.
But what war, when and with whom he did not get an answer and the major told him firmly that he was not going to answer him, but to obey his orders. He gave him a clear hint of what would happen if he disobeyed. The example of several police officers who refused to lay down their arms and locked themselves in the police station let him know what the end of resistance would be. The Poles quickly surrounded the building and then proceeded to storm it. The fight lasted barely half an hour before the policemen surrendered. Their pistols, revolvers and two carbines were no match for the Polish rifles, which were as fast as Maxim machine guns, and every Polish soldier had one.
Although he had been in the army barely two years to fulfill the duty of conscription and was not much interested in how it all worked, he saw perfectly well the advantage such a weapon gives over a typical Mauser rifle. And this he saw clearly during the assault, because he observed the whole event with his own eyes after he failed to encourage the policemen to surrender.
They destroyed all the windows, the front wall of the building was badly punctured and out of more than 12 policemen only four remained. These four were later showily shot by the Poles in front of the whole town, and the Polish major added with a noticeable sadism that any serious resistance would be brutally pacified and punished by death. The Polish soldiers were apparently pleased to see the horror of the Germans, and behaved like a victim taking revenge on his tormentor.
And here he came to the greatest puzzle, namely, noticeable not so much dislike, as hatred for the townspeople, a few times he was kicked by a Pole as he passed by.
Only the children were exempt from this contempt, although they tried to keep them away from vehicles and weapons, and fortunately the parents' fear for them meant that few children approached the Poles because they were watched to make sure they did not tease them.
Although it must be added that they were very interested in the soldiers and stared at the Poles with curiosity, and they were especially interested in the Polish automobiles that drove to and from Usedom.
Honestly the number of vehicles which appeared in the town by Poles was huge in his eyes. And there was no parking place for them, so the army occupied the entire city park and the square in front of the town-hall for their needs, forbidding the entry of civilians without an important matter.
But nevertheless the Poles were not a nuisance, yes, unpleasant and malicious, but they were bearable. They did not fall into houses, did not accost anyone and did not even try to force their order, although here he knew that this was because Poles only just occupied the town.
No, more problematic were the aristocracy and other bloated rich people who were surprised by the invasion. The biggest headache was the fact that they tried to leave the island via a ferry crossing that the Poles had closed to civilian traffic.
They tried to get to the commander but he didn't give a damn about them so all the trouble fell on his head and he had to listen to their complaints about how they were treated and their demands. Informing them that Poles are communists so they don't care about their status and that he has no influence on the Polish commander, on the contrary, he must obey the orders of the Pole did not go through their thick skulls.
And here he was a little thankful for that guard in his office, with his strangeness and coolness he kept them in line and helped ask them out of his office.
Further musings and failed attempts to focus on his work were interrupted when Schiele heard the sounds of fighting coming from the distance. "What is going on?" Said the Mayor, to which the guarding Pole replied, "What do you mean, what Kamerad? Ours and yours are fighting over the bridge west of town."
The German was surprised, "What bridge? There's no bridge there, just a ferry crossing, there are no bridges on the whole of Usedom except for Swinemunde and the one for trains, but that's south of town in Karmin."
The Pole nodded "Well never mind, most likely someone is attacking but unlikely to pass." And the German reluctantly agreed with him.
Karmin
Railway Station
125 WOP Battalion
Captain Piotr Napierała cursed nastily as he bent down under the station window, but his curse was drowned out by the cannonade of rifle fire from Polish AK and the weak counterfire of German Mausers. He had bad luck, apparently today there was a train full of soldiers going to Swinemunde to the local garrison, about the existence of which they learned only after one of the railwaymen involuntarily told them why they were happy about the approaching train.
Unfortunately, they managed to sabotage the train under Polish noses in order to stop it at the station. Unfortunately for the Germans, Napierała quickly took advantage of this to ambush and kill the people in one of the carriages in which there were soldiers by throwing grenades inside and firing from the AK.
Unfortunately it turned out that there were even more German soldiers and they relatively quickly gathered themselves for a counter-attack. The problem was that his battalion was tiny in comparison to a typical one, its size more resembling a half-company than its name. While the Germans were probably a whole battalion and a half.
Yes, they have an advantage in fire, theoretically, because each of them has only four magazines for AK, except of course for their LMG operators in the form of one D rkm, that is Soviet RPD and two withdrawn from ground troops DPM, that is fortunately the better post-war version.
That is why the whole battalion was besieged in the railroad station surrounded by Germans. Damn bad luck and irony that he had to hide from a bunch of Krauts armed at most with Mausers, because he didn't have enough ammunition to shoot them down using the advantage of fire which for Germans might as well be heavy machine gun fire.
No wonder, nobody assumed that WOP would fight on foreign territory. The only good thing in this situation was that the Germans managed to nail them down and the reinforcements were not far away. "How much longer?" He growled to the radio operator hiding behind the column, "Five more minutes, Captain." he got a quick answer.
"Kurwa mać" Cursed the Captain again then moved from under the window and began reloading his unloaded AK. He was just inserting his last allotted magazine. "We can't last five fucking minutes with this shooting." And it must be added that the Poles were saving ammunition, or at least they tried to save, but many packed too much ammo into the Germans hiding all over the neighborhood.
Fortunately, none of the Poles died, although a few were wounded, most of the Germans shot blind and tried not to get killed when they exposed themselves to shoot and in view of the fact that a Mauser to kill has only one attempt before it is necessary to reload the weapon. Which makes almost all their shots hit clearly past the target into the wall.
Here Polish MGs did a lot of work, their deadly rapid-fire and especially RPD allowed to nail Germans on the platform and those in front of the main entrance.
Private Jan Kowalski standing behind RPD was particularly distinguished this day, it was him who made the Germans either run away from the platform or be mowed down like corn when they tried desperately to charge bayonets or at least fight hand-to-hand.
When Napierała reloaded his AK he began to carefully observe the surroundings, slowly leaning out of the window. When he noticed the movement of a gray spot passing between the houses opposite the station, he quickly drew a long burst. Whether he hit the target he did not know, but it seemed to him that he heard a wave of moaning and cursing in German coming from there. Unfortunately, he could not look at the place when a Mauser bullet whistled unpleasantly close to him and flew past his head and into a soldier running behind him. He quickly hid behind a wall without provoking the fate.
He only noticed the wounded man after someone shouted "Gustaw's hit!" Gustaw rolled to the side then grabbed his left arm when he realized he was bleeding. "Paramedic! I need a fucking paramedic!" he began shouting horrified at the cacophony of screams and gunfire. The Captain quickly bending down ran over to the wounded man then began dragging him away to safety.
He dragged him to the ticket counter behind which one of the terrified ticket inspectors was hiding. He tried to give him a sign to give him a first aid kit, but the German was too terrified by what was happening to react. Or maybe he did not even know what he was talking about?
Minor, the paramedic had already managed to run up and start dressing the wounded man. "I'll take care of him Captain you can go..." He paused then gestured to the Captain "The Captain is going to have quite a scar on his cheek right here." Napierała touched the spot shown and checked his hand. Blood indeed, he didn't feel it as he got it through the adrenaline. He waved his hand at it "It's just a scratch."
Then he returned to his window. At first he wanted to continue firing, but he noticed that Germans slowly stopped shooting. Instead they were trying to escape. Unfortunately, the Poles slowly started to run out of ammunition and the AKs stopped playing their music until the only Polish soldiers still shooting from time to time were those behind LMGs, so the way to escape was open.
The Germans at first were reluctant to flee and perhaps a few of them decided to try again to carry out bayonet charges, trying to take advantage of the sudden silence from the Polish side but the ever vigilant DPM gunners knocked such ideas out of their heads, including their very heads.
Probably they would have stayed like this for some time, had it not been for the sudden entrance of Polish reinforcements on a couple of UAZ and WSK 125 and WSK 128 motorcycles to Karmin. The Poles quickly jumped from the vehicles and began to pound the German positions with fire. Some of the Germans immediately deserted, some surrendered raising their hands, some unfortunate Poles in the heat of battle shot them before they realized it. And a few tried to fight to the end using everything what they had in hand.
It took some time to clear the area of fighting German soldiers, so the fugitives managed to escape across the drawbridge.
Napierała sighed in relief, then immediately, "Report how many dead and wounded we have, and the ammunition status." He ordered without delay. The individual platoon leaders sprang to their feet and after barely two minutes he knew that he had no dead, twenty-three wounded, fortunately only most of them were lightly wounded by shrapnel from broken plaster and bricks and a few from glass. Only three were hit by bullets, one of which can be said to have ended his service to the Republic because a Mauser bullet shattered his left hand, the upside in this misfortune is that he is right-handed. The other one was hit like Gustaw in the arm but better because Gustaw's arm had a broken bone and he needed immediate evacuation to hospital. That one didn't.
Unfortunately the number of wounded was a defeat for him, even an insult. His whole "battalion" counted 45 men in total, that means more than half of them were wounded and that in a clash with a surprised enemy! An opponent from the Stone Age in terms of equipment. The other thing was that this clash cooled the enthusiasm and removed any illusions about the invulnerability of both his subordinates and the reinforcements under the command of Second Lieutenant Cegła. Especially painful was the fact that they had the overwhelming advantage of fire only at the beginning. When they had shot two magazines out of four, they had to tighten their belts in order not to become like church jerks.
What's the use of having a higher rate of fire if they can't use it as readily as they should? "We gave the Krauts a solid beating, for 39! Right Citizen Captain?" Said the second lieutenant cheerfully. "We gave the Krauts a solid thrashing on the first of September too, remember that Second Lieutenant." Replied the Captain with a hard face and a stern voice. "This is just the beginning of the beginning, the war hasn't started yet and already we have suffered our first losses."
The second lieutenant frowned as he saw Gustav being carried out of the building. "Will he recover from this?" He asked curiously somewhat fearfully. "If he's on the operating table within the hour then yes." Napierała said dispassionately.
Cegła could only nod at this simple fact. None of them are immortal, they are not gods just humans with a terrifying technical and organizational advantage but they are not invulnerable in pure shooting without fire support.
"We're in for some good plowing Citizen Captain" He said after a long moment and the Captain wordlessly nodded in agreement.
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Buba
A total creep
Brutality is to be expected - those men were born around 1950-52 and were told stories of the occupation by their parents.
As to kamerade - would the Poles know that the correct term in the GDR was genosse?
Selecting "single shot" does wonders for ammo conservation. Very good of you to point to logistics.
As to kamerade - would the Poles know that the correct term in the GDR was genosse?
This sentence needs a re-write, kurwa. Beginning with a dot in front of "A few ... ".
Selecting "single shot" does wonders for ammo conservation. Very good of you to point to logistics.
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
Yes, and their commanders are of occupation-era vintage and even include veterans from the war. With the current propaganda, plus the presence of parents and the attitude of their own commanders, it would be difficult for them to be nice to Germans. And Major Szczepaniak, I took the name of the real commander of the Pomeranian WOP Brigade, unfortunately only the name, but the fact that he is a major assumes that he must have been born just before the war and grew up in its treaty so it is not surprising that he decided to repay the Germans, and that it was the Kaisers, I guess... and no wait, they weren't very nice to us either. Much better than the Nazis but definitely not nice. Or maybe someone will even decide to do some kind of destruction of Potsdam or some other place as a revenge for Kalisz? All in all it fits more with the era.
I didn't know that at NDR they use a different phrase than Kamerad. I remembered that it means companion, I think our dear painters and electricians addressed each other like that. But all in all, I think in this era they'll probably associate Kamerad than Genosse.
I have corrected it. Another thing is that the whole thing is first in Polish and then I translate and correct what does not fit me, which is not easy because I have to fix errors when copying to the page. If you notice anything strange and I miss it, let me know.
Yes, they did, after they had fired about two magazines. And what about the other one, yes I pay attention to it, in practice in my fics and other books I write for myself it's one of the things I pay attention to, I do it firstly to have some real limit for myself in this way limiting the Strength of someone who is overrated and secondly because I like logistics and things related to it and how it all works (That's why I love Setlers II). That's why sometimes I can get annoyed when someone makes various miracles on a stick out of their ass because we have strong weapons *cough* Panzerwaffe and Desert Fox *cough*, you know stuff like that.
Buba
A total creep
GDR used genosse because kamerade was "stolen" by NSDAP.
Good point about Officers being older than OR (other ranks) and remembering the occupation or being WWII veterans. Major and older, SNCO - yes, Captains and Plutonowy down- almost certainly too young.
BTW - Plutonowy is a trap
- it is Sergeant in English. A Sierżant is a Sergeant with some adjective - First/Colour/Major/Gunner etc.
If by Ensign you mean Chorąży, then you could go with Warrant Officer. Or explain that it is not a Commissioned Officer.
The Germans are familiar with helmets, both military (leather) and firefighters (metal and leather). But having (smooth) metal helmets on everybody is novel
Most locals would associated machineguns with water cooling, few - outside wehrabo and military circles - being aware of air-cooled weapons, which already are around (but not in Germany).
I await reactions to RPG-7 and recoiless rifles! That is STAR WARS!
Good point about Officers being older than OR (other ranks) and remembering the occupation or being WWII veterans. Major and older, SNCO - yes, Captains and Plutonowy down- almost certainly too young.
BTW - Plutonowy is a trap
- it is Sergeant in English. A Sierżant is a Sergeant with some adjective - First/Colour/Major/Gunner etc.If by Ensign you mean Chorąży, then you could go with Warrant Officer. Or explain that it is not a Commissioned Officer.
The Germans are familiar with helmets, both military (leather) and firefighters (metal and leather). But having (smooth) metal helmets on everybody is novel
Most locals would associated machineguns with water cooling, few - outside wehrabo
and military circles - being aware of air-cooled weapons, which already are around (but not in Germany).I await reactions to RPG-7 and recoiless rifles! That is STAR WARS!
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Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
Or more accurately, destroyed like a swastika.... I just realized that maybe in this timeline and swastika may not have such a bad meaning as in ours, well maybe except Poland. (Perhaps Adi kicks the calendar when Polish artillery shells his trench or something else happens to him).
Yup, but rather I just forgot to mention it, you could say I kind of forgot like this mayor who may not realize the difference or even give it significant weight. The soldiers, on the other hand, may realise it quite quickly, for example when the Germans attempt to recapture Rügen with the forces of the nearby Garrison in Stransulnd. (Yes that's right I looked for a map of German garrisons and found a map from 1913, but all in all not much could have changed in a year by the time of mobilization). Probably because at that time neither Usedom nor Rügen had as many bridges as today, they were built only after the war so it could be some poor D-Day in German execution ending with Polish Omaha Beach. Perhaps they will soon start to wonder why Poles wear helmets on their heads and metal ones at that, and maybe some armies will adopt the Polish pattern? Or they will be like OTL German Helmets an ominous symbol of Polish Imperialism and Militarism. And here any ideas how in anti-Polish propaganda the Central and perhaps Entente states will portray Poles?The Germans are familiar with helmets, both military (leather) and firefighters (metal and leather). But having metal helmets on everybody is novel
If I remember correctly the British had Lewis at the time and the Soviet DP was patterned on it if not outright copied. And the Germans, BF1 showed me well what the Germans did as their LMG during WWI. It's a fucking joke and there's so much talk about their engineering genius and they couldn't make an air-cooled LMG despite getting their hands on both French and British toys.Most locals would associated machineguns with water cooling, few - outside wehrabo
And for everything else! And here I wonder how many borrowings there will be from the Polish language after this war when it comes to non-existent armaments. For sure, instead of assault rifles there will be automatic rifles, and I wonder how many will take the word "Czołg" from Polish and turn it into their own in an ungodly way. And for example jet planes, assault planes, fighter planes - all terminology already exists and is somehow clear.
Although, unfortunately, it was too early for the Poles for such Star Wars to be moved along with us and become a strange phenon in old Europe, although I guess it was by accident that Poland killed Hollywood and German Film School because here we have everything state-of-the-art in the world and good professionals for the job. So maybe some crazy Pole will make a Polish ST here? Or some immigrant from the USA, in the end a whole bunch of those crazy rednecks and other visionaries will start coming to Poland like to Mecca. Fuck, the world won't forgive us for accidentally showing that Socialism works and that it's the future. It doesn't matter that we know the truth, they see only heroic Poland, the most progressive country in the world.
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Buba
A total creep
The Lewis was already designed, maybe even entering production (unlicensed?) in the UK, but not adopted by the British Army yet.
The DP28 is in no way related.
What I was thinking about is the Madsen, in small numbers used in conflicts since the Manchurian War.
The NIH - Not Invented Here - attitude was very strong ... mind you, during the war the Imperial Army even bought and used several hundred Madsens from Denmark ...
Actually the Bergmann nArt 1915 (used by Polish army up to 1939, as Poland somehow ended up with most of the c.6000 which were manufactured) was aircooled. Hence sent to Turkish front ...
And the Maxim 08/18 - too late for the war - was air cooled as well.
Heh - good point about czołg - ITTL tanks might end up being called "crawlers"
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Poland from 1974 should have enough ammo for 15 dyvisions,and manufactures to made new.But,they still should conserve it - if they beat germany using most of it,tsar could come and take Poland again.
They need some political solution.....wait,Bawaria and Saxony still have armies,and were not happy with prussians,and France wanted revenge for 1871.With at least one of them,victory without spending too much ammo is possible.
Problem is - would polish commies be smart enough to seek allies? polish historians in 1974 were good,they coud told them where to seek them.
P.S Even now,there are stil western slavs in germany,in 1914 there was much more of them.Maybe some uprising and creating polish puppet states there ?
P.SS about movies - some polish was good,and arleady made.Like Pharaoh,for example.
They need some political solution.....wait,Bawaria and Saxony still have armies,and were not happy with prussians,and France wanted revenge for 1871.With at least one of them,victory without spending too much ammo is possible.
Problem is - would polish commies be smart enough to seek allies? polish historians in 1974 were good,they coud told them where to seek them.
P.S Even now,there are stil western slavs in germany,in 1914 there was much more of them.Maybe some uprising and creating polish puppet states there ?
P.SS about movies - some polish was good,and arleady made.Like Pharaoh,for example.
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
I didn't know such a thing existed.
For real? The only gun I know under the MG0/18 name was a pretty heavy LMG and it looked like it was water cooled, you know it has that heavy and thick barrel. It was air cooled? Then why was it such a big beefy thing?
Madsen, that's actually right I forgot there was such a thing. The other thing is that my head is more with BF1 where Dice pulled every possible prototype of this war for both sides of the conflict and gave us to play with. Including the proto-AK, AF- Fyodorov automatic.
No, wait I think they just borrowed the magazine idea if they just didn't take it from Lewis and had the gun made up for the rest. Or something.
Buba
A total creep
99% were east of the Oder and thus overwriten.
And the Lusatians are not rebelling.
The Rhur Valley Polish - immigrants to the mines and iron works - are not rebelling either.
I imagine that there is some shooting on Poland's eastern border - and we will get to it soon. Same thing with SE border - the (mostly Polish speaking) Austrians from Lvov will make a move, with probing from Teschen/Cieszyn as well.
There were the 08/15 - water cooled, with thick barrel shroud and 19kg with water - and the 08/18 - air cooled, with thinner shroud with holes in it - 16kg. Both "beefy" as they were "slimmed down" Maxim 08's - originally same class as Vickers or 1910 Maxim, i.e. 25kg without mount.
Mind you - the Lewis was c..13kg too.
The DP had a "pan" magazine which was totally different from that of the Lewis. In the DP - same as in all(?) other "pan" magazines - the rounds were moved by a spring. In the Lewis the magazine revolved.
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Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
Rather even more than they will need our country was supposed to be a huge supply route to the front and it was not assumed in the conditions of the atomic battlefield that there would be munitions factories for a long time so I think we rather have huge supplies. And most importantly for our logistics officers the biggest problem will not be the amount of produced ammunition but whether we will bring it to the front in the right amount. Remember, now the best roads and railroad connections with trains are in Poland. We have very good STAR trucks and we are about to introduce an even better model, but the roads will be a bit more demanding during this period, especially in Russia. And the worst of it will be oil, our one division consumes as much oil as all the armies in the world at that time put together. There is some in Galicia, but we must get to decent deposits as soon as possible.
It depends on how pragmatic we are in solving problems with our neighbors and how much we can afford without creating a worldwide anti-Polish crusade.
Here let's take a more positive view of the intelligence of our leaders of the era.
Here as above, it depends on how much we can afford not to have to lead revolutions everywhere, because such a country necessarily had to be a totalitarian nightmare. It would be better to create a Saxon and Brandenburg and Mecklenburg People's Republic.
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
Yes, and a fat one at that. I'll give you a little hint, this town is literally right next to the border and you can see it clearly on the other side of the river. Can you guess which one?
Buba
A total creep
The logical place for shooting to start is the town which now has a fortress divided by the newly appeared border ...
Thing is, almost the whole LWP is garrisoned to the west of the Vistula. The nearest units would those from ... Warsaw? 200km is not that far, though. Especially for motorised formations
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
Yes, the Battle of Brześć will be a bit fierce and bloody.
There are always Red Berets on hand to assist the WOP there, so that later a quickly redeployed mechanized division would arrive as the Cavalry. Unfortunately we then have no motorized division, just armored and mechanized. But there is a closer one, the 3rd Pomeranian Mechanized Division which according to its name is located in Lublin.
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Buba
A total creep
This is April - the water levels of rivers should be high. The mud season could be in full swing too.
As to football - Polish national team is Olympic champions in 1916, 1920, 1924 ... ?
Of course there would be a clash with the International Board over rules - offside, substitutions, red&yellow cards ...
As to football - Polish national team is Olympic champions in 1916, 1920, 1924 ... ?
Of course there would be a clash with the International Board over rules - offside, substitutions, red&yellow cards ...
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Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
Rather, the lack of known rules only changes that now you can, and our national team will tear down everyone without exception, after all, we're talking pros versus amateurs here. And in the field of sports we will take the baton of Russia / USSR in terms of the number of medals, until others reach our level, unless we get banned.
But one thing is for sure, the whole world is in for a shock and in their opinion we will become some kind of superpower unmovable. Although this is obvious bullshit and anyone who can add two to two will figure it out.
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
Still how, no Soviets, in the worst case I will go the way of reversing the relation, that is Poland having as a satellite the Russian People's Republic. Or I will make Roswiecję/Rusviet, that is Tsarist Russia with communism under Polish boot. And in the best case? Russia gets fucked up and is withdrawn as far as Don and Dnieper and between us and them a network of Polish satellites is created, or Poland goes as far as Dvina and Dnieper and creates for itself Belarus as it should be and small Ukraine and will send there everyone who does not like Polonization of these areas.
Honestly, I don't know yet, it will really turn out in the wash if the Poland versus the World plan wins in my mind or if Poland gets along with the world.
But how much do you think everyone on SV would want Poland to try to build its own Soviet Union? And spread it left and right? Honestly for a while I was tempted to make this a Quest on SV and deliberately sabotage any actions of the selectors if they go too far to the left. And also to make a fool of them and get them to elect Moczar.
Still how, no Soviets, in the worst case I will go the way of reversing the relation, that is Poland having as a satellite the Russian People's Republic. Or I will make Roswiecję/Rusviet, that is Tsarist Russia with communism under Polish boot. And in the best case? Russia gets fucked up and is withdrawn as far as Don and Dnieper and between us and them a network of Polish satellites is created, or Poland goes as far as Dvina and Dnieper and creates for itself Belarus as it should be and small Ukraine and will send there everyone who does not like Polonization of these areas.
Honestly, I don't know yet, it will really turn out in the wash if the Poland versus the World plan wins in my mind or if Poland gets along with the world.
But how much do you think everyone on SV would want Poland to try to build its own Soviet Union? And spread it left and right? Honestly for a while I was tempted to make this a Quest on SV and deliberately sabotage any actions of the selectors if they go too far to the left. And also to make a fool of them and get them to elect Moczar.
Do that/on SV/
About Poland - made it belivable - they would beat both Germany and Russia,but later made peace.And NEP.And start ruling world economy.