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[Lord Sovereign]

Latest I heard about Disney was that the Board is no longer going to allow Iger to select his replacement, and that they've chosen a guy name Gorman from JP Morgan Bank to do the headhunting for Disney's next CEO.

Looks like Disney doesn't trust Iger to make the right decision.

Can’t say I blame them. His administration has been an abject disaster. It was under his auspices, after all, that Kathleen Kennedy was allowed to kill the Golden Goose that was Star Wars.

Question is, is the Gorman chap a raging progressive? Because even if he isn’t, he’s got a battle ahead of him. Due to the company being public, predatory activist shareholders will fight tooth and nail to keep the Crusade going.

 

[Jormungandr]

Can’t say I blame them. His administration has been an abject disaster. It was under his auspices, after all, that Kathleen Kennedy was allowed to kill the Golden Goose that was Star Wars.

Question is, is the Gorman chap a raging progressive? Because even if he isn’t, he’s got a battle ahead of him. Due to the company being public, predatory activist shareholders will fight tooth and nail to keep the Crusade going.

Star Wars, I think, isn't going to recover.

I mean, making Disney's additions in the last ten years or so completely non-canon would repair a lot of the damage, but with Fisher's passing, the real golden goose ideal --seeing Luke, Han, and Leia together again-- can never happen.

Star Wars will forever be remembered as a beloved franchise sacrificed to the altar of the batshit insane progressive agenda.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

I really wish Disney would just pull their heads out of their asses and make a film on the level of The Iron Giant or something. All you need is a plot that isn't complete baby nonsense or full of woke politics crap and shockingly you get a product that almost everybody loves.

Instead it looks like Disney's protocols is similar to modern game companies.
Step 1: Obtain IP's and staff with the free government moneys you get.
Step 2: Make propaganda mandated by the government.
Step 3: Once it flops, fire staff and hoard IP.
Step 4: Repeat.

Not only does this shit break free market economics, it breaks the purpose of IP legislation. So now I am utterly numb to both.

 

[Blasterbot]

You need artists who want to make a good story for something like that. you have to pay those sorts of people. Activists can be convinced to work for peanuts if they get to push their message.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

You need artists who want to make a good story for something like that. you have to pay those sorts of people. Activists can be convinced to work for peanuts if they get to push their message.

Well, not only do you need good artists who want to make a good story. You need a good manager to wrangle all the tards before they get out of hand. Although good management could be considered to be yet rarer than good artists.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

Disney needs to give an olive branch as much as quality material. So if it were down to me, the hand drawn 2D animation department would be reopened, I would debase myself as necessary to get the chaps who made Treasure Planet back, then green light its sequel. At the same time, publicly excise proggies from creative leadership: they had their chance.

 

[ATP]

Disney needs to give an olive branch as much as quality material. So if it were down to me, the hand drawn 2D animation department would be reopened, I would debase myself as necessary to get the chaps who made Treasure Planet back, then green light its sequel. At the same time, publicly excise proggies from creative leadership: they had their chance.

Treasure planet was made on book Treasure island,yes? if so,they could not be sequel,becouse there was no sequel to book.
Even if i want to see that.

Agree on the rest.

 

[Jormungandr]

Treasure planet was made on book Treasure island,yes? if so,they could not be sequel,becouse there was no sequel to book.
Even if i want to see that.

Agree on the rest.

A book or adapted historical event not having a "sequel" has not stopped Disney or other companies from writing their own before. Granted they're typically utterly shite though, haha.

 

[ATP]

A book or adapted historical event not having a "sequel" has not stopped Disney or other companies from writing their own before. Granted they're typically utterly shite though, haha.

Sadly,true.So,maybe better not made it? or,just made classic Treasure Island?

 

[Skallagrim]

As it happens, the historian Denis Judd has written both a prequel (The Adventures of Long John Silver) and a sequel (Return to Treasure Island), both of which I enjoyed immensely.

A.D. Howden Smith had previously written a prequel, Porto Bello Gold, which is also great. But I personally prefer Judd's take on it.

So in this case, as in many cases, the Kathleen Kennedy types of this world are wrong when they say there's no good source material that can be used.

 

[ATP]

As it happens, the historian Denis Judd has written both a prequel (The Adventures of Long John Silver) and a sequel (Return to Treasure Island), both of which I enjoyed immensely.

A.D. Howden Smith had previously written a prequel, Porto Bello Gold, which is also great. But I personally prefer Judd's take on it.

So in this case, as in many cases, the Kathleen Kennedy types of this world are wrong when they say there's no good source material that can be used.

Thanks ! i knew about prequel,but not sequel.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

As it happens, the historian Denis Judd has written both a prequel (The Adventures of Long John Silver) and a sequel (Return to Treasure Island), both of which I enjoyed immensely.

A.D. Howden Smith had previously written a prequel, Porto Bello Gold, which is also great. But I personally prefer Judd's take on it.

So in this case, as in many cases, the Kathleen Kennedy types of this world are wrong when they say there's no good source material that can be used.

I don't get it. Disney Owns Marvel, Marvel is known for alternate universe stuff LONG before multiversal crisises were a thing. Why can't Disney continue the EU as a alternate universe (Call it galaxy two or whatever) Heck Dark Horse DID take a shot at doing a star wars alternate universe under the title "Star Wars: Infinities" and it was AWSOME!!!

Disney has all the means to revive Star Wars in a way people like. They just...don't.

 

[Skallagrim]

I don't get it. Disney Owns Marvel, Marvel is known for alternate universe stuff LONG before multiversal crisises were a thing. Why can't Disney continue the EU as a alternate universe (Call it galaxy two or whatever) Heck Dark Horse DID take a shot at doing a star wars alternate universe under the title "Star Wars: Infinities" and it was AWSOME!!!

Disney has all the means to revive Star Wars in a way people like. They just...don't.

What do you expect from these people? Sanity? Competence? Good intentions?

You ask for things they do not possess, and in fact cannot even understand...

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

What do you expect from these people? Sanity? Competence? Good intentions?

You ask for things they do not possess, and in fact cannot even understand...

I'm just trying to figure out how they managed to get into the positions they have.

I mean it's obvious money being left on the table.

but I mean these are the same people that made the book of Boba fett the way they did.

I saw The Good the bad and the ugly about a week ago with my parents for the first time. I mean Boba Fett was MADE to be a grey hat anti-hero. Lucas Admitted he straight up lifted from "The man with no name." All they had to do was do "A fist full of dollars trilogy in space." and you'd have your book of Boba Fett for three seasons easily. Heck an entire series of Boba and Fenric having a dynamic like what Jango and Zam had (Without Boba being a backstabber like his father) that could have lasted 8 or 9 seasons.

 

[Skitzyfrenic]

Postmodernism requires the culling and divesting of the past.

 

[Terthna]

I don't get it. Disney Owns Marvel, Marvel is known for alternate universe stuff LONG before multiversal crisises were a thing. Why can't Disney continue the EU as a alternate universe (Call it galaxy two or whatever) Heck Dark Horse DID take a shot at doing a star wars alternate universe under the title "Star Wars: Infinities" and it was AWSOME!!!

Disney has all the means to revive Star Wars in a way people like. They just...don't.

Ego mostly. Same thing that caused Kathleen Kennedy to sabotage The Mandalorian, when it looked like it was going to rehabilitate the IP.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Ego mostly. Same thing that caused Kathleen Kennedy to sabotage The Mandalorian, when it looked like it was going to rehabilitate the IP.

Gotta love how all of the Mandalorian was just an elaborate excuse to get to a black dude cloning himself.

Like jesus christ...Could we not have gotten ANYTHING better?...

 

[f1onagher]

All they had to do was embrace the massive scope of the Star Wars universe and stay away from the core plot. Have bounty hunters, pirates, force users, and explorers go on romps in various corners of the galaxy. Have a story about a slave rebellion in Hutt space or rebels hunting for new bases in the Outer Rim or an Imperial captain with a Clone War ship hunt down pirates while wrestling with wether or not to let a helpful rebel go or not. This isn't rocket science and they could have printed money. Even GW can do that.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Gotta love how all of the Mandalorian was just an elaborate excuse to get to a black dude cloning himself.

Like jesus christ...Could we not have gotten ANYTHING better?...

I don't think all three seasons of the Mandalorian was an excuse to get a "Black dude cloning himself." It feels like such a lazy attempt at injecting a race based quip where non exists. Like smooth brain levels of humor.

The First Season was pretty widely praised. A lot of people liked the Second Season, but those also tended to be the same people who liked "Rogue One" (like me) and didn't mind the increased amount of nostalgia.

It was the Third Season (and its terrible prequel, the Book of Boba Fett) that started to derail things. The Book of Boba Fett had some weird SJW themes in it (like with the body modder subculture), but personally I think it was mostly just bad writing and whatnot.

The third season though completely fell apart. You had the first two episodes which were... fine I guess. Then a third episode which was almost all 'Andor-lite' and just didn't work at all to set up the return of Moff Gideon, not because he was a BLACK MAN but because his character and the actor himself Giancarlo Esposito were really popular shit at the time (and the actor still is popular). Then there was another so-so episode where Grogu had that cringe asf "combat training" with the other kid Mandalorians and hunting a kid snatching big bird.

Then there was that Pirate episode which was just extremely juvenile and meant for kids. It was like a cartoon with the alien pirate motifs and stereotypes and lolworthy competency when they tried to threaten Nevarro.

And then you had that truly awful episode with Queen Lizzo and King Jack Black and it was just honestly absolutely terrible and the one were you could feel the Disney DEI bullshit and SJW themes melting through everything. And the whole Scooby Doo ending where Christopher Lloyd was hauled off "and I would've gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling Mandalorians!"

Then the final two episodes which had plenty of plot holes, but moderately entertaining. I agree that Moff Gideon coming back was a terrible plot point since he had already been defeated in Season Two rather satisfyingly, but I doubt there was a three or four season plan where the entire goal of the series was to clone a Black Man because of his racial identity.

 

[Terthna]

All they had to do was embrace the massive scope of the Star Wars universe and stay away from the core plot. Have bounty hunters, pirates, force users, and explorers go on romps in various corners of the galaxy. Have a story about a slave rebellion in Hutt space or rebels hunting for new bases in the Outer Rim or an Imperial captain with a Clone War ship hunt down pirates while wrestling with wether or not to let a helpful rebel go or not. This isn't rocket science and they could have printed money. Even GW can do that.

Yeah, but from their perspective the whole point was to mess with the core plot; to destroy it utterly, and supplant it with something that glorified them and their ideology. At no point was creating something that would actually entertain, let alone sell, on its own merits ever a consideration of theirs; as in their minds, you have no choice but to enjoy whatever they deign to bestow upon you because you are inferior to them, and surrender to them all that you have in tribute to their greatness.