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bintananth

behind a desk
Good news guys! Shanghai Disney has reopened after three months!


And they're still wearing masks in public ...

When I was hospitalized for most of April and May I wasn't even tested for COVID when I told the ER Nurse that I wasn't vaccinated.
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder
So, the rumours are is that Kathleen Kennedy has finally been recognized for doing near or completely irreparable damage to the Star Wars brand, and her contract has been terminated by the board.

If true, which I'm taking with a grain of salt so large that'd it make all those con-artists selling Himalayan salt lamps jealous, we'd still be stuck with her for another year or so. But, I'm wondering if they've finally recognized that she's destroyed what should have been their money-printing machine with her and her drones' ideologies.
 

Bear Ribs

Well-known member
Once a person gets that high up, in a corporation that large, getting rid of them isn't like firing a McDonald's worker for spoiling an order, it's like ousting El Presidente in a civil war. They have loyal minions/toadies and control in projects across dozens of departments and likely have blackmail material, secrets, and company plans for the future that could destroy the company if they decide to take the company down with them, which they will if they just randomly get fired because people who don't use those kind of strategies don't wind up executives in something as big as Diseny.

You have to wrest control away from them in each area first, else the company immediately suffers widespread failures the second they're fired. This may lead to them starting a rival company with their loyalists stealing away massive stashes of company ideas and secrets, or them gaining even more power if the shareholders have the idea that the sudden failures on firing are caused because the fired executive was actually the only one holding things together.

Disney's pretty infamous for its frequent brutal faction fights over control of the company. In my review for Gargoyles I mentioned how the show was essentially a casualty of this because Frank Wells died, leading to a faction fight between Eisner and Katzenberg with Katzenberg coming out the loser but ripping a bloody chunk of the animation talent away from Disney in the process, which he used to create Dreamworks and bringing an end to an era where Disney had some truly excellent cartoons going on.
 
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Once a person gets that high up, in a corporation that large, getting rid of them isn't like firing a McDonald's worker for spoiling an order, it's like ousting El Presidente in a civil war. They have loyal minions/toadies and control in projects across dozens of departments and likely have blackmail material, secrets, and company plans for the future that could destroy the company if they decide to take the company down with them, which they will if they just randomly get fired because people who don't use those kind of strategies don't wind up executives in something as big as Diseny.

You have to wrest control away from them in each area first, else the company immediately suffers widespread failures the second they're fired. This may lead to them starting a rival company with their loyalists stealing away massive stashes of company ideas and secrets, or them gaining even more power if the shareholders have the idea that the sudden failures on firing are caused because the fired executive was actually the only one holding things together.

Disney's pretty infamous for its frequent brutal faction fights over control of the company. In my review for Gargoyles I mentioned how the show was essentially a casualty of this because Frank Wells died, leading to a faction fight between Eisner and Katzenberg with Katzenberg coming out the loser but ripping a bloody chunk of the animation talent away from Disney in the process, which he used to create Dreamworks and bringing an end to an era where Disney had some truly excellent cartoons going on.

See that's the that's the kind of thing that makes me think the "American Dream" has become a bunch of malarkey (assuming it wasn't already like that from the word go)

As for KK something tells me the REAL big wigs at Disney (IE Abigail and her personal board) are secure enough thanks to thier lobbiest that they really don't care if Kk brings the company down. Otherwise I think we'd be seeing her disappear in a sudden car wreck or boating accident.
 
I came across this video from back in 2020



In Disney's defense, I think a lot of people forget that a lot of these fairy tales where disease, crime, and death were the norm so, of course, the folklore was going to reflect that. In Disney's defense, they existed in the golden age of America. furthermore, Europeans tend to simply resign themselves to their current situation and adapt accordingly. (Not sorry, it's true) Americans (at least at one time) tend to look to hope, idealism, and determination to change their present circumstances.

Long story short. These stories were never going to translate well to an American audience due to very prominent culture clashes. This honestly makes me wonder why we are obsessed with adapting European folklore instead of creating our own. I mean we are good at making our own myths in form of superheroes, but aside from a handful of things like Pacos Bill Paul Bunun, and John Henery (funny enough an African American Folkhero), we don't have that many fairy tales.

Granted. Disney still sucks for a variety of reasons and has ruined culture in plenty of ways, like how they have twisted copyright to the point of it hurting artists more than helping, their habit of trying to buyout and squash any competition, as well as being in bed with the government and supporting anti-American mentalities.
 
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