Warhammer Warhammer General discussion thread: Now with 100% more Space Marines

Typhonis

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What scale are you looking to play at? I know 2 companies that you can build an Eldar force for less than $200 but it will be at 3mm scale.
 

Battlegrinder

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Recasts are really only "worth it" for Forge World or out of print stuff. For GW models, the lost detail and extra work needed to clean up recasts isn't worth the saving, particularly because you'll often lose out on all the extra bits you get from a GW kit if you go recast.....assuming you can even find one, lots of newer kits are designed to be hard to recast.

3D printed models, either from one you own or bought from someone on ebay or Etsy, are probably the better budget hammer opition.
 

Agent23

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Happy New Year everyone!

Ok, a few things:

First off, after being about 6 hours into Rogue Trader I can say the game is actually pretty good!

Second, sort of related to the first, can navigators interbreed with regular humans and how likely is it for a navigator and a normie to have a relationship?

I do recall that the navigator of either a battle barge or some other major Night Lords ship from the Night Lords trilogy was getting rather close to some normal human/the two were doing the dirty.
Just asking since while banging a hot space yandare um, consorting with a member of the crew that is of abhuman status might be frowned upon it might be a source of more potential navigators...of course this will all be done in the name of furthering the interests of the Rogue Trader dynasty, the ship and the wider imperium, why else would a humble God Emprah-fearing former commissar simp and fall in love with and bang err, procreate with an Abhuman.

Lastly, here is a nice video of Arch pwning some leftoid jerkoff on the topics of 40k and of gatekeeping:

 

Husky_Khan

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I'm actually reading my second Warhammer 40K Omnibus/Novel dealio. It's a Necron book about the beautiful bromance between Chronomancer/Seer/Cryptek Orikan the Diviner and our favorite historian, the Archaeovist of the Solemnace Galleries Trazyn the Infinite. Due to a lack of proper Tomb Kings books I figured this would be the closest I could get. Not the most entertaining book I've read but it's definitely different, neat and original so I can see why Games Workshop doesn't write more of them.

Being only able to understand about ten percent of what I'm reading on the first pass, I find myself occasionally browsing backwards to review things but unlike with the prior Space Marine omnibus I had read, I'm not accessing the Lexicanum to look up random terms and units and monsters etc because I feel having my mere feral mortal mind wallowing in confusion adds to the literary atmosphere IMHO. With that said you'd think that a book about Necrons would be slow paced, but it is not. I'm only a hundred pages in and already 198 years have passed!

It also has Dinosaurs! 65,000,000/10 so far!
 

nemo1986

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Happy New Year everyone!

Ok, a few things:

First off, after being about 6 hours into Rogue Trader I can say the game is actually pretty good!

Second, sort of related to the first, can navigators interbreed with regular humans and how likely is it for a navigator and a normie to have a relationship?

I do recall that the navigator of either a battle barge or some other major Night Lords ship from the Night Lords trilogy was getting rather close to some normal human/the two were doing the dirty.
Just asking since while banging a hot space yandare um, consorting with a member of the crew that is of abhuman status might be frowned upon it might be a source of more potential navigators...of course this will all be done in the name of furthering the interests of the Rogue Trader dynasty, the ship and the wider imperium, why else would a humble God Emprah-fearing former commissar simp and fall in love with and bang err, procreate with an Abhuman.

Lastly, here is a nice video of Arch pwning some leftoid jerkoff on the topics of 40k and of gatekeeping:


From my understanding interbreeding between and navigator and a normal human will usually result in a normal human as the navigator trait seems to be a recessive gene. It's why the navigator families basically practice arranged marriage and have a breeding chart to keep track. It makes more sense if you look at Cassia as a 40k Disney Princess since that is how Owlcat wrote her.
 

Agent23

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From my understanding interbreeding between and navigator and a normal human will usually result in a normal human as the navigator trait seems to be a recessive gene. It's why the navigator families basically practice arranged marriage and have a breeding chart to keep track. It makes more sense if you look at Cassia as a 40k Disney Princess since that is how Owlcat wrote her.
Felt more like a Yandare/Kuudere Eldritch Abomination style anime waifu if you ask me.
 

Husky_Khan

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Felt more like a Yandare/Kuudere Eldritch Abomination style anime waifu if you ask me.

If someone needs a New Years Resolution to stop publicly cooming everywhere...

I mean I make lewd commentary rather frequently, but there's usually an attempted thrust at comedy or satire or something deeper. Not just sperging out on whatever perversions are addling my mind in that immediate moment.

Most of the time anyways.
 

evilchumlee

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Most Chinese recasers are pretty bad.

The Russians are better. You have to do some internet searching to find either.


These guys are solid quality if you don't mind supporting two Russian dudes in their garage.

I've been priced out of 40k models... not anymore. Might pick up a few, try them out.
 

Husky_Khan

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I'm actually reading my second Warhammer 40K Omnibus/Novel dealio. It's a Necron book about the beautiful bromance between Chronomancer/Seer/Cryptek Orikan the Diviner and our favorite historian, the Archaeovist of the Solemnace Galleries Trazyn the Infinite. Due to a lack of proper Tomb Kings books I figured this would be the closest I could get. Not the most entertaining book I've read but it's definitely different, neat and original so I can see why Games Workshop doesn't write more of them.

Being only able to understand about ten percent of what I'm reading on the first pass, I find myself occasionally browsing backwards to review things but unlike with the prior Space Marine omnibus I had read, I'm not accessing the Lexicanum to look up random terms and units and monsters etc because I feel having my mere feral mortal mind wallowing in confusion adds to the literary atmosphere IMHO. With that said you'd think that a book about Necrons would be slow paced, but it is not. I'm only a hundred pages in and already 198 years have passed!

It also has Dinosaurs! 65,000,000/10 so far!

Finished The Infinite and the Divine. It got better and better closer to the end. While the metaphysics and impressively immortal scale of the tale being told was very epic as a backdrop, the novel did become more interesting to me as my mammalian brain was drawn into the stronger characterizations as the two main Necrons grew in their character arcs and interacted with each other and the quest they embarked upon. The epic backdrop was just a beautiful vehicle for telling such an epic tale though. I can see why Trazyn is so likable, but after skimming the internet, I do abhor how much of a meme he's become.

I feel like he's being flanderized, much like say the Orks and other 40K things are, when he's just a really fascinatingly complex individual with interesting observations, and served by stories (I haven't read Fall of Cadia yet nor am I inclined to honestly) where his antics might serve memes, and Games Workshops lore bit droppings really aren't helping.

But anyways, besides that... the story was great and became more and more engrossing and the prose was very nicely done, with a wit similar to Trazyns I suppose. It didn't become too clever either like Marvel humor has so that is nice as well. The climatic scenes towards the end were really set up well though the final battle... and how it concluded... it kinda lost me. It wasn't bad, just wasn't as impressive as the journey and the revelation of the mystery at the very end of the long quest. Overall I did like how it tied together but the ending was ultimately slightly underwhelming. Minor issue though.

It was interesting reading a book from the Space Tomb Kings perspective.
 

Husky_Khan

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There's a part of me that has always wanted Chaos to be a bit more of an... Anti-Imperium. Of course all of the evil, torturous demonic shit happens but... hell some of that happens in the Imperium, too like throwing a thousand souls a day at the Golden Throne and servitors and what not.

But like, I would love to see Chaos emerge as an even-more-forceful worship mill for its patron god, but with some actual organization to it. They're essentially trying to do the same thing as the Emperor was... expand out, rule everything. The Chaos gods are just doing it specifically to rule everything and enforce worship to increase their power.

There has to be SOME form of organizations, though. Things like the Dark Mechanicus exist.

With the nature of the Warp, making Chaos an Anti-Imperium would always be problematic. Most interpretations of the Warp as being screwed up when it comes to time and the Warp being described as an ocean with currents, storms and tides and the like, with the figurative water replaced by literal emotions and souls, and the obvious time displacement that occurs (ie Abaddon's 13 Black Crusades are a weekly event, the Abyssal Crusade Survivors emerged almost a millenia after heading into the Eye of Terror and destroyed 400 Chaos Worlds in spite of a huge increase of Chaos Incursions from said Eye of Terror happening immediately after said Abyssal Crusade was launched, and worse the idea that Slaanesh always existed... but also never existed according to the other Chaos Gods). It's hard to make a functional society like you'd have in real space, if time and space don't follow the rules they do in real space.

Along with time not working well, space doesn't either as the Chaos Gods can manipulate and warp (no pun intended) things on their Daemon Worlds to some degree. Chaos Corruption can do horrible things to people in the material universe, imagine such distilled corruption occurring constantly unfiltered in the Warp.

With that said there is obvious organization. And there are hierarches. There are Forgeworlds in the Eye of Terror (and in the normal galaxy as well) as well. And if the Chaos Gods want a world to be "normal" as you say, they can be so, and there are "normal" worlds within the Imperium. They're mentioned in things like the Black Crusade sourcebooks. And the organization overall is dedicated to bringing more worship and power to the Ruinous Powers actually so your not wrong on that point. If there wasn't any organization towards certain purposes the nigh infinite number of Daemons in the Warp could just likely murder all of the slaves, worshippers, cultists, Chaos Space Marines etc but they don't because they are following their respective Gods will and desire.

The other problem with making an anti-Imperium, beyond the lack of following time and space is that you have Khorne whose dedicated to the most extreme excesses of martial prowess and war mongering which means a lot of fighting and bloodletting all the time, Nurgle whose all about decay and disease and blooming life via plagues and rot, the perpetual hedonism and excess party that is Slaanesh to the point that they're so dulled by centuries of empty pursuit of pleasure their primary drive is finding new depravities and stimulation, and Tzeentch who... well... the big bird seems fine. I can't see why you can't make a stable society out of backstabbing, cunning, manipulation, trickery, guile and illusion. That's basically a political meme I feel.

Ultimately... in the Warp I don't feel there's any real advantage I feel, in just making an Anti-Imperium... unless your just engaging in some sort of Tzeentch level psychological mind games, or using it as a testbed for things. Having "normal" crapsack Chaos dominated worlds in real space could make sense because... that's what works there. In the Warp... no need to be constrained by normal reasonable expectations.
 

Husky_Khan

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Cinematic Battle Between the Empire of Man and Warriors of Chaos in Warhammer Fantasy.



Lotta cool moments in it, including some epic cavalry charges.
 

Husky_Khan

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Bryan Ansell, the guy who wrote the original Warhammer, founded citadel minis and once owned GW died on the 30 dec at age 68

Article on it from the Wargamer website.


I need to look it up but several months ago some YouTuber did a history on the early days of Warhammer creation and publishing.
 

AnimalNoodles

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Article on it from the Wargamer website.


I need to look it up but several months ago some YouTuber did a history on the early days of Warhammer creation and publishing.

All the old guys are now gone. Even John Blanche is retired from creating GW art. 😥
 

Husky_Khan

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Here it is, Part One of Two. Covers the unholy Birth of Warhammer. So covers the work of Richard Halliwell, Rick Priestley, and Bryan Ansell and the development and release of Warhammer Fantasy Editions One and Two.

 

AnimalNoodles

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Here it is, Part One of Two. Covers the unholy Birth of Warhammer. So covers the work of Richard Halliwell, Rick Priestley, and Bryan Ansell and the development and release of Warhammer Fantasy Editions One and Two.


For those of us who grew up in the 80's, rogue trader has a certain resonance with its rootedness on the culture of the time. You younguns dont know how obscure warhammer was in NA until quite recently. Shit, i remember creating a zerg vs tyranid thread on SB waaaaaay back, and no one knew wtf a tyranid was lol.
 

Ixian

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For those of us who grew up in the 80's, rogue trader has a certain resonance with its rootedness on the culture of the time. You younguns dont know how obscure warhammer was in NA until quite recently. Shit, i remember creating a zerg vs tyranid thread on SB waaaaaay back, and no one knew wtf a tyranid was lol.

Thats because GW finally got serious about advertising here in the US, and it just so happen to coincide with the rise of "nerd culture's" popularity, and subsequent leftwing infiltration.
 

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