While simultaneously and paradoxically labeling the very traits which are required to defend said order toxic. This is of course absurd how does one fight a war with emasculated soldiers,obviously you cannot. Yet the establishment does everything within thier power to cause,encourage,and intensify said emasculation on a daily basis.
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The establishment literally labeled working out as "white supremacy",I'm not talking about the military Zac. The establishment is the government,media,and academia and its a fact that they label masculinity as toxic.
And yet, the governments fighting arms, the biggest branches of the Army, and the meanest branch of the MC, both require working out....
That's literally the point,if the culture at large actively and explicitly discourages masculinity. Then the recruitment pool for the military shrinks both from lack of capability and lack of desire. The culture at large does in fact discourage both physical capacity along with courage,aggression,nationalism,and any and all forms of masculinity. Then as if that isn't bad enough the government actively attacks rural culture as well. Which is now and has been since Rome at minimum the primary recruitment ground for military forces. The issue is that regardless of what the actual military does. If the state it serves is loudly and proudly denouncing literally everything about masculinity and by extension being a warrior. Then it turns out that you will have a continuously shrinking pool of men for the military to draw on.
Except the pool will remain the same due to thw fact joining requires that physical aspect.
Right so less men being physically competent is somehow the same as more men being physically competent? That's seriously your reply? Right so let's say 30 years ago 75% of males were physically competent and now 15% are. Explain how in the hell the pool remains the same when a drop of 50 percentage points occurred? That isn't how mathematics works you if course realize?
King Arts
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Did you get a 30 on the ASVAB? Cause that statement makes it look like you failed math.
No, this is just you wanting to ignore the shrinking recruitment pool and pretend that the amount of people in the US who would actually pass the fitness standards hasn't decreased significantly.
I mean I know admitting the civie side issues that poke holes in recruitment PR is something you are loath to do, but at least acknowledge that they do exist.
The fact is the amount of young people in the US is shrinking period, because so few people are having kids anymore, and has been that way for a generation plus now. Add in that the type of people the military want's to recruit are from an even faster shrinking demographic among the declining US populace, and there is no way to honestly pretend that the amount of people who meet the fitness standards is not smaller than is has been almost ever.
The willing blindness to so many civie demographic issues and their political/socioeconomic origins in DC, because they undercut the entire mythos the US military has about itself and it's relation to the US citizenry at large, is a large part of why the brass are continuously surprised by low recruiting numbers.
Yep and as it turns out calling the people who are you know patriotic and actually proud to he American. Something as vile as Nazis for years tends to make those same people not really be inclined to fight for you. I mean who knew that calling kids whis grandfather's stormed Normandy and kicked the SS in thier teeth Nazis would piss them off?
It's worse than that, though, is the thing, and the leadership know it.Yep and as it turns out calling the people who are you know patriotic and actually proud to he American. Something as vile as Nazis for years tends to make those same people not really be inclined to fight for you. I mean who knew that calling kids whis grandfather's stormed Normandy and kicked the SS in thier teeth Nazis would piss them off?
The US military relied too long on nostalgia and left over patriotism from WW2 for PR; they are still trotting out 100+ year old vets to sporting events to try to drive up recruiting numbers.
One of my grandfathers serve in the USAAF in the war on training B-25 crews; he counted down the days, hours, and minutes till he was able to leave the military, and turned down West Point appointment's twice. "Tired of taking orders from people dumber than me." was a big part of it, and the leadership and culture in the military hasn't gotten any better from what I've seen.
Young people won't take orders from people who they know are idiots anymore, no matter what rank they've attained, and DoD/DC leadership have been shown to be clowns of the highest order repeatedly since WW2.
The US military beat the Nazi's, but left Stalin and Mao alive, and when people like Patton tried to wake people to the danger and actually fight the Soviet influence, they were sidelined/offed in an 'accident', and even Eisenhower didn't have the guts to let MacArthur do what needed to be done in Korea to win.
DC won't even let the US military 'win'/finish a fight with the forces they have now, adding more forces won't change it, and no recruiter PR spin can deflect these realities either.
The US is a heavily armed banana republic that exports Hollywood and Raytheon; the illusions otherwise no longer hold up, no matter what the DoD wants to pretend for recruiting purposes.
Shipmaster Sane
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I would have thought you'd have grown out of that "ending posts with Ellipses" habit by now.
Agent23
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I think that what he is saying is that people who want the perks of a steady, secure government job where you can slack a decent amount of time when you are not drilling and dealing with the other chicken shit will remain the same, and they will have to man up.
I mean, he is pretty prolific about shotpositng here, so most of his days are not THAT tense.
Humor aside, he does not seem that stresses out, or unable to spare some time for this forum.
Agent23
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Aaand not getting fit means doing stuff that could get you dishonorably discharged/pissing off someone that can force you do do duckwalking for a week.
Yinko
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Eh, at the moment something like 75% of otherwise eligible Americans are ineligible for military service due to a combination of obesity, medical history, mental illness or criminal record. The biggest change in recent years is the medical record one, as the DOD now requires all applicants to supply their complete medical records, and any use of neuro-chemicals altering medications in the past two years (such as anti-depressants or ADD meds) disqualifies. Though there are a couple of ways around that.
The physical standards have been lowered to such an extent that you can't even argue it's a barrier. An 18 yo female for the Navy at the moment only has to do 11 push ups. The Air Force has alternative PT tests for all categories that are basically designed to be impossible to fail. I've also seen spherical Army Airborne. A couple of the branches have implemented fat-camp pre-basic in order to overcome the obesity issue as well.
By spherical airborne, do you know thier ACFT?
Because if you get a 540 or above, with at least 80 in every category. You get exempted from height weight standards.
I only know the Army, I can't comment on the rest
Yinko
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I was just at a BX and saw a couple of them. I'm pretty sure they were Guard as well.
I mean that would be why then
That is up to the states not thr federal government
Agent23
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68% of US troops are obese or overweight, study finds
68% of US troops are already obese.
yeah, sure, the BMI is not the be all end all, muscle mass makes it look higher, but still it looks like obesity is costing the us military billions.