Sounds like they might also want a "buffer" zone ad an excuse to push back the Armenian border.
Also probably due to the large Armenian diaspora.
Turkish-backed attack on Armenia by Azerbaijan with formal declaration of War
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Sounds like they might also want a "buffer" zone ad an excuse to push back the Armenian border.
Also probably due to the large Armenian diaspora.
Looks like Armenia's Prime Minister, Pashinyan, is willing to sign a Peace Treaty with Azerbaijan, one that presumably recognizes the internationally recognized borders of the two countries and thus cedes all of the disputed land of Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan.
Riot Police are deployed in Yerevan. Needless to say there are large amounts of protests in response to these reports.
At the same time he invoked Article 4 of the CSTO Treaty, the Alliances Mutual Defense Clause.
Riot Police are deployed in Yerevan. Needless to say there are large amounts of protests in response to these reports.
At the same time he invoked Article 4 of the CSTO Treaty, the Alliances Mutual Defense Clause.
VictortheMonarch
Victor the Crusader
Has Russia said anything about this? Azerbaijan can be said to be EU/NATO affiliated, as their main ally is Turkey.
Great to hear!
Are the Armenians in N-K going to stay and live under Azerbaijani rule or are they going to be resettled en masse in Armenia?
And another cease fire, a "Humanitarian" one according to the Azeris. The CSTO delegation will be arriving tomorrow to do whatever as well.
Oh no. I very much doubt any of them will be staying. Alive anyways.
The resettlement will be mostly peaceful I reckon though.
Oh no. I very much doubt any of them will be staying. Alive anyways.
The resettlement will be mostly peaceful I reckon though.
And isn't this an opportunity for NATO for humanitarian intervention?
Implying that NATO would be interested in that at all. Well, maybe Turkey is, but i wouldn't be sure how humanitarian their intervention would be
Implying that NATO would be interested in that at all. Well, maybe Turkey is, but i wouldn't be sure how humanitarian their intervention would be
One would think that NATO would be pro-human rights, no? Though Turkey might use its veto power to block any NATO intervention, thus necessitating that such intervention be unilateral, similar to Iraq in 2003, with Bush's coalition of the willing.
NATO cared a lot about Kosovo to militarily intervene there in 1999.
Does Erdogan of all people strike you as the Merkel type?
That's another thing. Also Turkey owns the only NATO border to it.
Kosovo is in Europe, and so some members had more direct interest in the region.
He admitted several times more Syrian refugees than Merkel did, so, maybe? But then again, Armenians are Christians whereas Turks are Muslims. And Turks have a rather problematic history with the Armenians, to put it mildly. Turks probably view Syrians more favorably since, unlike Armenians, they were not historically viewed as potential Russian subversives.
And how many of them he punted to Merkel or otherwise exploited for money or political power?
Just because some countries admit refugees out of silly sentiments sometimes doesn't mean that in other cases it can't be driven by genuine self-interested utility.
Crackdown on Syrian refugees in Turkey intensifies
Concern is mounting among refugees, who are facing increasing administrative difficulties as the government enforces tougher measures.
www.lemonde.fr
Turkey’s rapprochement with Syria leaves refugees fearful
Erdoğan is no longer seeking the ousting of Assad, alarming Syrians across the opposition and Kurdish exiles who fear being forcibly returned
www.theguardian.com
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Apparently Nancy Pelosi will be in Armenia before the CSTO Commission.
www.middletownpress.com
Pelosi to visit Armenia as cease-fire with Azerbaijan holds
YEREVAN, Armenia (AP) — The speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi,...
After videos showing Armenian troops taking care of wounded Azeri troops and vice versa made the rounds on Social Media... Apparently another video is now making rounds from that conflict zone.
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Nancy Pelosi visits the Armenian Genocide Memorial/Monument and after shedding some tears, she called Azerbaijan's aggression against Armenia "illegal."
Meanwhile there are also protests in Armenia against the CSTO that even include American flags and banners stating support for "MNNA" for Major non-NATO Ally" in regards to Russia and the CSTO deciding not to do anything in regards to Azeri aggression.
Meanwhile there are also protests in Armenia against the CSTO that even include American flags and banners stating support for "MNNA" for Major non-NATO Ally" in regards to Russia and the CSTO deciding not to do anything in regards to Azeri aggression.
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So, this is turning out to be a winning geopolitical move for the US. Allow Russia to ruin its relations with Armenia (and Central Asia, to a lesser extent) and then increase its own influence there at Russia's expense. Brilliant!
Ricardolindo
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There is an argument that the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast and other Soviet Autonomous Oblasts had the legal right to secede just like the Soviet Republics did.
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Including Tatarstan?
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Ricardolindo
Well-known member
Yes, I think the argument applies to all the Soviet Autonomous Oblasts. BTW, could you, please, fix "Societ" into "Soviet" in the quote like I did in my message?