Because then he can give that personal info to his handlers; the only question is if they are in Beijing, Moscow, or Tehran.
Tucker Carlson Leaving Fox News
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I would assume Beijing pays the best but probably has the most limitations on their speech for foreign operatives. Plus they'd always be crying about hurt feelings and shit. Russia though would give you all of the liberty to shit post regardless of POV as long as its not Russophobic. Backing Tehran ironically would get you the most access to unwashed leftist two spirit maidens on assorted college campuses advocating on behalf of oppressed and marginalized brown peoples. Very ironic considering it's Iran. And doubly so especially considering how this discussion has turned recently...
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
This is true, but this interview should help to clarify whether he's a supporter of the Putin regime or not.And to be fair, the reason why so many people make this assumption is because there's hardly ever a time that someone who is against us assisting Ukraine doesn't also defend Putin.
I don't support Russia but I also don't think we should be wasting anymore of our money on Ukraine. Especially considering the fact that we have an invasion on our own southern border.
What if, in exchange for a big, beautiful wall and the return of Trump executive actions in regards to border enforcement and ramping up deportations of invaders, criminals first, the US would still be sending billions to Ukraine but it'd be only in the form of military aid (ie old missiles, artillery ammunition, armored vehicles) that the US was going to scrap or replace with newer vehicles or some such made in America by your favorite military-industrial complex contractors? But not sending Ukraine things like pallets of cash and other financing so they can supposedly pay their postal workers or whatever.
People forget Ukraine has been given a Lend-Lease type situation; the money going to Ukraine will be paid back with proper interest in the decades to come, and the arms going to Ukraine mean a lot of money just stays in the US to pay for the things Ukraine needs produced.
Lend-Lease to the UK for WW2 was not even fully paid back till the late 80's, IIRC, so it's not like there is a massive rush on getting it repaid in single digit years.
This is the sort of thing Tucker Carlson wouldn't tell his audience.
Lend-Lease to the UK for WW2 was not even fully paid back till the late 80's, IIRC, so it's not like there is a massive rush on getting it repaid in single digit years.
This is the sort of thing Tucker Carlson wouldn't tell his audience.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
We aren't getting the money wasted there back.
Eh, we kinda are.
The MIC are one of the few areas in industry that has to be solely American are allied nations.
So it goes to the companies producing the arms, potentially allowing more jobs of not increase in jobs due to need.
Add in the money then gets soent back on the economy.
The MIC are one of the few areas in industry that has to be solely American are allied nations.
So it goes to the companies producing the arms, potentially allowing more jobs of not increase in jobs due to need.
Add in the money then gets soent back on the economy.
First, assuming it is 'wasted' in Ukraine is something that is not fact, when the Bradley's and Patriot systems sold to Ukraine are saving lives, and US aid is enabling the country to continue to function while under threat from the Russian invasion.
The money for Patriot systems is already back in the US system, for example, as Raytheon has a huge backlog of orders to fill because the missile system has been shown to be so effective, while the Bradley's are much safer to use than BMP-type shit.
Second, we can and will get the 'money back', both as repayment for the Lend-Lease gear over the decades to come, and more immediately as payments for munitions/gear sent to Ukraine.
The idea we 'won't get our money back' is plainly false, ignores the actual agreements made with Ukraine in favor of anti-Ukraine memes with little basis in fact, and is frankly showing a complete lack of critical thinking skill in favor of the same stupid meme's Tucker Carlson has repeatedly put forth to his audience.
Simonbob
Well-known member
That, I disagree with. Extending a war kills more people, on both sides.
Where did the money come from? Ukraine doesn't have any spare, and didn't have much beforehand.
Honestly, will Ukraine have even close to the money required? Are they going to be re-paying for centuries?
I'm still waiting on him from 8+ hours ago to find these posts of me supporting Russia that he is so sure exist
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
We won't actually get it back, We have caused increasing amounts of inflation via printing more money to pay for this or and this is rich borrowing money from China to give it to Ukraine. So even on the off chance Ukraine pays this back in the next century we will have still lost money. But hey prolonging a war that Ukraine can't win will give the Russians a bloody nose so fuck it right?
The war could be over tomorrow if Putin ordered his troops home; it is not the west 'extending' anything.
It is not the US or Ukraine who is causing this war to happen, all we are doing is making it so Ukraine can focus on it's immediate survival while a hostile forces is invading it's lands.
And the Ukrainians want to fight for their homes, but need the munitions supplies from the west because those factories are ones Shaheds and Iskanders cannot hit.
The people of Ukraine do not want to be under Moscow's thumb again for many, many justified reasons.
It comes from aid from multiple international partners, not just the US, and much of the money flows back into the economy of the nations helping aid Ukraine.
Do you not understand how Lend-Lease works?
Ukraine will be paying back for decades, just like Europe did after WW2, and when Ukraine's victory is achieved, they will have the oil shale/off-shore oil deposits to help get their economy going again, and they do have their grain export corridor through the Black Sea operational.
Ukraine also has/had a very good heavy industry sector, and though much in the areas near the front line is obviously rather fucked for a while, it can be rebuilt. Ukraine may even become a large player in the combat drone market after the war, with combat proven systems and the experience base to act as an export market for military gear once Russia is forced back behind the border.
"Lost money"...see, you only care about the dollar signs as it relates to Ukraine, nothing else.
The war could end tomorrow if Putin withdrew his forces, and the Ukrainians are bleeding and dying to defend their homes from the same nation that enacted the Holomodor on their ancestors.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
Okay? And why the fuck should I care about anything else in regards to this conflict on the other side of the world? Look at the state of our own country, The cost of everything is increasing we have entire cities overrun with homeless and we have an unchecked invasion on our southern border.
ShieldWife
Marchioness
Is Putin flooding our nation with illegal immigrants? Is he having our kids sexually mutilated? Is he fixing our elections? Is he locking up Jan 6th protestors without a trial and torturing them? Is he printing our money like crazy and making us all broke? Does he want to persecute white people? Is he forcing us to get vaccines? Is he censoring all of our social media?
No. That would be our government, intelligence agencies, banks, and corporations. The people who want us to to go to war with Russia (and numerous other nations) with no questions asked. The US establishment has lied to us again and again and has shown us without a doubt that they hate the American people and our values and yet we are supposed to trust them with absolute faith when they want to bring us to the brink of WWIII?
Fuck no and fuck you if you want that.
Tucker not only has the right to interview Putin but the moral obligation to do so. I’m not saying that Putin is a good guy or that what he says won’t be propaganda - I’m saying that we need to hear both sides and it’s especially important when we know for a fact that the one side we’re allowed to listen to now (the mainstream media) are evil and liars and far more hostile to Americans that Putin could ever be.
No. That would be our government, intelligence agencies, banks, and corporations. The people who want us to to go to war with Russia (and numerous other nations) with no questions asked. The US establishment has lied to us again and again and has shown us without a doubt that they hate the American people and our values and yet we are supposed to trust them with absolute faith when they want to bring us to the brink of WWIII?
Fuck no and fuck you if you want that.
Tucker not only has the right to interview Putin but the moral obligation to do so. I’m not saying that Putin is a good guy or that what he says won’t be propaganda - I’m saying that we need to hear both sides and it’s especially important when we know for a fact that the one side we’re allowed to listen to now (the mainstream media) are evil and liars and far more hostile to Americans that Putin could ever be.
Vyor
My influence grows!
Ah yes.
"Just let the invaders kill you and rape your wife."
Sound strat.
Yes and Yes.
If they disagree with him, so yes.
Double yes.
It's is possible to care about the border and domestic issues at the same time one is concerned about Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
As well, you should care, because Russia will not stop with Ukraine; they are gearing up for generational warfare and have made decrees about 'the lands belonging to the Russian Empire' that amount to saying any land a Russian ever touched still belongs to Russia, including Alaska.
Putin's ilk are not going to stop if given a 'consolation prize' out of Ukraine's territory, they will simply pause long enough to rearm, and pick their next target.
And with the shit about Alaska in play, if we don't stop the Bear in Ukraine, they will come for US soil eventually, even if we completely abandon NATO and all our overseas allies.
Unless of course you think maybe we should be willing to give up Alaska to Russia, if they make a go for it, rather than fight for it like the Ukrainians are doing for their land.
That you think Russia has no hand in pushing illegal immigration into the US via our southern border, and ignore the groups like allied with Russia that do (like Hamas and Hezbollah), shows you are massively ignorant about what actions Russia has actually taken, and still takes, against the US.
That you think Russia has no hand in poisoning US academia also shows your historical ignorance.
The ignorance you demonstrate about the hand Russia has played in turning the liberals into progressives also is what people like Tucker Carlson count on in his audience.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
That is the most retarded take I have heard. We do have a large nuclear arsenal and Russia knows we will use it. Gonna have to start calling you Cheney.
You all do realize the monetary figure...os how much it is all worth and hoe much they are sending in money.
Basically, a 25 billion dollar package, includes the cost of the vehicles, say Brad's or Abrams, missiles, etc.
Not jist actual fucking money
Basically, a 25 billion dollar package, includes the cost of the vehicles, say Brad's or Abrams, missiles, etc.
Not jist actual fucking money
I mean, why would we risk nuclear war when it is just safer to give in at the threat of nukes...