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[Zachowon]

Ok you reject that. What if you are wrong? What if the majority of people really do lean left, and that if everyone was asked and answered(maybe magic or maybe a cybernetic augment to the person's brain that let's them communicate) most people would vote for the democrats, but they don't actually care enough to go out and vote, or put in too much effort. Would that change anything for you? It doesen't for me.


Umm aren't most soldiers in the US? Like we have bases in our own nation, can't you like get off base at the end of the day to vote in whatever state you are stationed at? Or if it's needed just have election stations set up on the base itself? If you are in the middle of a war, then maybe elections shouldn't be held as the president should not change in the middle of the war.


Umm the election showed that what democrats were saying was true though?
Like because of Covid more mail in ballots were given then ever before, before the 2020 election you had to have a reason to have a mail in ballot. Because of the excuse covid gave them the democrats were able to give it to pretty much everyone. Some people don't want to accept the fact that we are the minority and our ideas our not popular, I don't care popularity does not determine if it is good or not. But these people don't like to think of that because they love democracy so much so they said that the election was stolen. There was not any more election fraud in the 2020 election than other previous elections. It's the mail in ballots that was the cause of the loss. If Trump used federal power and stated that mail in ballots are invalid and won't be counted he could have won.

No, because I am not a resident of the state I am stationed in.
Or country of I am overseas stationed.
Should I be able to vote in any states elections just because I am stationed there?

 

[King Arts]

I'll take this one.

No, you can't. Soldiers retain their residency despite where they are stationed. Almost EVERY soldier, sailor, airman and marine require absentee balloting.

They retain residency? That’s stupid how long are soldiers stationed in an area? If they are there for over a year they should be considered residents.

Nope. Even with Alleged rigging of the vote the Dems only won marginally despite having all advantages, stop with the historical revisionism if you think otherwise present the statistics.

To repeat the Big Blue wave is a myth.

I’m not sure myself but I was always told about this stupid blue wave by spacebattles assholes so I grew to hate absentee ballot.

No, because I am not a resident of the state I am stationed in.
Or country of I am overseas stationed.
Should I be able to vote in any states elections just because I am stationed there?

In my opinion yes you should be able to vote in the state you are stationed at as that’s where you live not your old home. How long are you stationed in a place?

 

[Zachowon]

They retain residency? That’s stupid how long are soldiers stationed in an area? If they are there for over a year they should be considered residents.


I’m not sure myself but I was always told about this stupid blue wave by spacebattles assholes so I grew to hate absentee ballot.


In my opinion yes you should be able to vote in the state you are stationed at as that’s where you live not your old home. How long are you stationed in a place?

It varies a lot.
But why should I, say get stationed in Fort Drum NY ir Fort Irwin CA have to vote in those states? Or become residents in those states.

 

[ShieldWife]

Obviously, people in the military need a mechanism for voting from wherever they happen to be. There are probably a number of other people in exceptional circumstances who also need some similar mechanism for voting.

I don’t think that it’s a good idea to extend that ability to the general public, it is too easily exploited.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Soldiers don't get to choose their station. They could be there for a month or a few years. Should they be forced to become residents? No, however, they can choose to change their residency if they wish to.

Side note: no Texas residency soldier I ever met changed their residency for one simple reason...no state income tax for Texas residents.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Obviously, people in the military need a mechanism for voting from wherever they happen to be. There are probably a number of other people in exceptional circumstances who also need some similar mechanism for voting.

I don’t think that it’s a good idea to extend that ability to the general public, it is too easily exploited.

There are routine procedures in place for soldiers to get absentee ballots, or to change their residency if desired.

Overseas soldiers often get shafted because of the delay in getting the ballots to them and back to the local voting precincts.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

I’m not sure myself but I was always told about this stupid blue wave by spacebattles assholes so I grew to hate absentee ballot.

Of course. Listen anyone here will tell you that prior to 2020 the left on SB was obsessed with the idea of the 'big blue wave' this was defined by their belief that a huge silent majority of Americans were democrats that simply where too lazy to vote and thus never did.

Absentee ballots or mail in's were supposed to bring these people out of the woodwork by forcing them into the voting pool but surprise, surprise despite getting over 13 million more people to vote it didn't amount to shit because Biden only won barely in the popular by 7 million.

Literally Trump won by 46.8 percent of the popular vote in 2020 over the 46.1 of the popular vote against Clinton, that is in no fucking way a BBW especially when Biden over Clinton was ridding covid's coat tails and had the benefit of not having Clinton's baggage.

There is a reason SB stopped mentioning it and went to the "I am inevitable" without saying exactly why that was line of discussion.

 

[Bigking321]

Er point of order.

Absentee ballots are for when you won't be able to vote election day and must be requested. This seems completely fine and (as I recall) is the primary method soldiers use to vote from wherever they are at.

Universal mail in ballots and automatic registration is the one they use for their fraud and needs to be stopped.

 

[Abhorsen]

Personally, I think people are combining a strategy to win with what is the correct way to run an election. Republicans can do both: use mail in ballots when available etc, but also when elected, remove them if possible.

 

[Buba]

Obviously, people in the military need a mechanism for voting from wherever they happen to be.

Not necessarily - depriving them of the vote has a long tradition, top of mind, the French III Republic.
So, problem solved

Absentee ballots are for when you won't be able to vote election day and must be requested.

This.

 

[Rocinante]

Personally, I think people are combining a strategy to win with what is the correct way to run an election. Republicans can do both: use mail in ballots when available etc, but also when elected, remove them if possible.

This is the only way the laws will get changed.

If you refuse to adapt and play the game in the states that are doing it, you've guaranteed that you are going to lose.

I am for removing these laws. Therefore, I am for republicans in the states that have them adapting and utilizing them. Then if they can win, go in and start cleaning the laws up.

Yeah it might be hard to win because of the potential fraud. But it'll be outright impossible to win if you don't embrace it at all.

 

[King Arts]

It varies a lot.
But why should I, say get stationed in Fort Drum NY ir Fort Irwin CA have to vote in those states? Or become residents in those states.

Because unless you are saying you hop on a plane to go back to the original state after work each day you actually do live and reside in New York now. You drive on their lands, you eat at restaurants there etc.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

Because unless you are saying you hop on a plane to go back to the original state after work each day you actually do live and reside in New York now. You drive on their lands, you eat at restaurants there etc.

No. Residency should be determined by where you de-jure live not de-facto. People who live on military installations aren't permanent residents, once their four-year tour expires, they typically go right back home, so making them residents of another state when they are only temporarily living on a federal installation is totally pointless.

I mean if you want to make that argument you can say U.S. soldier's in Japan should be tried under Japanese law and vote in their elections.

 

[Rocinante]

No. Residency should be determined by where you de-jure live not de-facto. People who live on military installations aren't permanent residents, once their four-year tour expires, they typically go right back home, so making them residents of another state when they are only temporarily living on a federal installation is totally pointless.

I mean if you want to make that argument you can say U.S. soldier's in Japan should be tried under Japanese law and vote in their elections.

I'm not saying @King Arts wants democrats to win...

But if I wanted them to win, I wouldn't do much differently than what he's suggested in this thread.

Let's just make the GOP's most reliable voting bloc unable to vote.

Makes tons of sense if you want the GOP to lose.

 

[DarthOne]

I'm not saying @King Arts wants democrats to win...

But if I wanted them to win, I wouldn't do much differently than what he's suggested in this thread.

Let's just make the GOP's most reliable voting bloc unable to vote.

Makes tons of sense if you want the GOP to lose.

That would be the same US military that’s being wokified and whose leadership has not only lied and disobeyed it’s Commander and Chief at the time, but has made it abundantly clear that 80% or more of them will do whatever their paymasters tell them to?

 

[Zachowon]

What 80% are you getting at?

 

[DarthOne]

What 80% are you getting at?

What 80% aren’t you seeing?

 

[King Arts]

No. Residency should be determined by where you de-jure live not de-facto. People who live on military installations aren't permanent residents, once their four-year tour expires, they typically go right back home, so making them residents of another state when they are only temporarily living on a federal installation is totally pointless.

I mean if you want to make that argument you can say U.S. soldier's in Japan should be tried under Japanese law and vote in their elections.

Why should residency not be determined by de facto instead of de jure? People may be there "temporarily" but that is still YEARS someone could be there temporarily for 10 years, yet another person could decide to live in a new state "indefinitely" yet leave in the next year. That is laughable, a person should not be able to vote in a place where they don't actually live, the laws that are passed there won't actually affect them, they live under different laws for the most part.(except taxes.)

As for your Japan example that is a non sequiter Americans aren't Japanese so no they shouldn't be able to vote in their elections, though if they commit a crime they should be tried under Japanese law, this is off topic we shouldn't have troops occupying foreign territory long term.

 

[Rocinante]

That would be the same US military that’s being wokified and whose leadership has not only lied and disobeyed it’s Commander and Chief at the time, but has made it abundantly clear that 80% or more of them will do whatever their paymasters tell them to?

The same US military who pretty much hates being wokified, and votes republican by a large majority. Yes, those guys.

 

[Zachowon]

Moderates.
The vast majority of the mikitary are moderates.
They vote as that generally.
Very few are left