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Arch Dornan

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Whaddaya mean one day?

Fuck they're already doing it.
 

Bacle

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Trump got booed when he promoted the vaccines at his rally, because people like him, but the do not worship the ground he walks on.

He emphasized it a choice and that our freedoms are important, however he still is shilling for the vaxs and acting like they are a feather in his cap because of how quick they happened.

This is part of why I want DeSantis, not Trump, as the GOP frontrunner for 2024. If they have Trump as VP fine, but I do not think he should try for POTUS again.
 

DarthOne

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Trump got booed when he promoted the vaccines at his rally, because people like him, but the do not worship the ground he walks on.

He emphasized it a choice and that our freedoms are important, however he still is shilling for the vaxs and acting like they are a feather in his cap because of how quick they happened.

This is part of why I want DeSantis, not Trump, as the GOP frontrunner for 2024. If they have Trump as VP fine, but I do not think he should try for POTUS again.

(shrugs) no one is perfect. And we'll just have to wait and see. We've got a way between now and then.
 

Bacle

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(shrugs) no one is perfect. And we'll just have to wait and see. We've got a way between now and then.
That's fair.

My biggest beefs with Trump are that he is so fucking egotistical, and doesn't know how to get the right people (even if it sounds like traitor Pence controlled the staffing), and he keep touting the vax's while pretending there are no serious side-effects from them.

Part of me feel like Trump is in this for himself, his ego, and his bank account now, while having acted as a 'Pied Piper' that brought together a lot of groups the elites want to get rid of/suppress/drive from society.

I'd feel better with DeSantis in the Oval Office, with the support of Trump, than I would be having Trump back in there again.
 

Bigking321

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Part of me feel like Trump is in this for himself, his ego
I'm sure that's part of it, but there is no doubt in my mind he genuinely loves America and wants to do whatever he can to make it better.
and his bank account
That one I doubt. He took a 1 dollar salary and had any business he was involved in attacked relentlessly. I'm absolutely certain he lost a lot of money by being president.
 

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I'm sure that's part of it, but there is no doubt in my mind he genuinely loves America and wants to do whatever he can to make it better.
He loves America, that I don't doubt; but I'm no longer sure he is the best one to save it.

That one I doubt. He took a 1 dollar salary and had any business he was involved in attacked relentlessly. I'm absolutely certain he lost a lot of money by being president.
Yeah, that's not what I mean.

I mean the way he and his people are always trying to hit up 2020 campaign donors to fund his rallies and such now, and the way his campaign harangued donors during the campaign.

The campaign seemed like it rarely crosschecked their donation lists when they sent out texts or emails asking for money, where you'd get redundant, sometimes rather aggressively worded texts/emails asking why you didn't donate, when you just donated an hour or day ago. They never put in the real effort to crosscheck that stuff, had the 'money bomb' 'double your donation/make donation recur monthly' buttons at that were auto-clicked and had to be 'opted out of' in every damn donation transaction, and they used the names of GOP members/Trump family members falsely in mass texts to make it seem like it was some big shot personally trying to get money for Trump.

There is a reason I never went to a rally, or accepted the many 'invitations/contest entries' for trips to rallies or meet Trump, and it's because as bad as the Dems are/were, I didn't truly trust the Trump campaign was being honest instead of just trying to get as much cash as possible.
 

Zachowon

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He knows the vaccine works, and is telling peope the best way for him or DeSantis to win are to get the vax.
BTW, I pretty sure DeSantis also got the Vax
 

Bacle

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He knows the vaccine works, and is telling peope the best way for him or DeSantis to win are to get the vax.
BTW, I pretty sure DeSantis also got the Vax
Yeah, and the vax hasn't been harming older people the way it has younger people.

Plus, that doesn't change that the Wu Flu is endemic now, and thus most, if not all, measures taken against it will be futile, and just excuses for power grabs.
 

Zachowon

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Yeah, and the vax hasn't been harming older people the way it has younger people.

Plus, that doesn't change that the Wu Flu is endemic now, and thus most, if not all, measures taken against it will be futile, and just excuses for power grabs.
Again, from what I have seen from you and others arguing back and forth.
The only real way for us to not let the left have total power grab next election, is if in a state with heavy push against the unvaxed to stop them from voting, get the vax.
If not, don't worry a out it.
If mandated, just ficking get it.
If not, don't worry about it.
Etc etc
 

Bacle

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The only real way for us to not let the left have total power grab next election, is if in a state with heavy push against the unvaxed to stop them from voting, get the vax.
If they try to bar people from voting (even mail in voting) over vax status, it will only prove they were lying in 2020 when they pushed all the mail in stuff.

Why should we play their game by allowing them to use vax status to reduce the franchise, instead of just learning to live with and ignore the bug, so we can get a semblence of our pre-Wu Flu lives back.
If not, don't worry a out it.
If mandated, just ficking get it.
If not, don't worry about it.
Etc etc
You might be forced to get it by mandate, but trying to mandate it for civies will only end badly for anyone who does it.

My body, my choice.
 

Zachowon

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If they try to bar people from voting (even mail in voting) over vax status, it will only prove they were lying in 2020 when they pushed all the mail in stuff.

Why should we play their game by allowing them to use vax status to reduce the franchise, instead of just learning to live with and ignore the bug, so we can get a semblence of our pre-Wu Flu lives back.
You might be forced to get it by mandate, but trying to mandate it for civies will only end badly for anyone who does it.

My body, my choice.
You didn't have the choice with the Polio vax.
But yeah, no I gotcha.
I'm just saying what they could use to try and defeat us again...
 

Bacle

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You didn't have the choice with the Polio vax.
But yeah, no I gotcha.
I'm just saying what they could use to try and defeat us again...
They stole the election with fucking fake ballots, not sure what's the point in thinking they won't try again, even if the US had 100% vax rate.

Unless of course you think Biden actually legitly won?
 

Zachowon

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They stole the election with fucking fake ballots, not sure what's the point in thinking they won't try again, even if the US had 100% vax rate.

Unless of course you think Biden actually legitly won?
Fuck no.
Im just trying to tell you a way they nay use
 

Bacle

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Fuck no.
Im just trying to tell you a way they nay use
Yes, they may try to, and it is something the Left may attempt.

However, with mail-in available, they would have a much harder time justifying banning the unvaxxed from voting to a court, particularly SCOTUS, which is where I expect most of those sorts of actions will end up being either struck down or upheld.

Of course that assumes SCOTUS even matters anymore, because as we've seen with the 'eviction moratorium', the WH can simply ignore SCOTUS if they feel the media and Congress will give them cover to do so.
 

Zachowon

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Yes, they may try to, and it is something the Left may attempt.

However, with mail-in available, they would have a much harder time justifying banning the unvaxxed from voting to a court, particularly SCOTUS, which is where I expect most of those sorts of actions will end up being either struck down or upheld.

Of course that assumes SCOTUS even matters anymore, because as we've seen with the 'eviction moratorium', the WH can simply ignore SCOTUS if they feel the media and Congress will give them cover to do so.
SCOTUS takes time you know.
 

Bacle

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SCOTUS takes time you know.
Yes, I am very aware of that, and I understand how the Left will likely try to ram thing through so SCOTUS has a hard time ruling before the election has happened.

However the Left would not change their tactics in this regard no matter what we do (even if we had a 100% vax rate and the vax's had no side-effects), so I see no reason to play their game regarding the vax's, nor give Trump a pass when he reinforce's their narrative by praising the vax's while ignoring the side-effects.
 

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I've never doubted or believed otherwise that Trump wasn't egotistical and in this largely for himself, but the thing was that it was in such a way that we would benefit others in such a way that we wouldn't from many/most other politicians that shamelessly sell us out piecemeal.

Trump wants glory and honor and statues and to be remembered along with the historical great and good. We would be dragged along for the ride.
 

LordsFire

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I've never doubted or believed otherwise that Trump wasn't egotistical and in this largely for himself, but the thing was that it was in such a way that we would benefit others in such a way that we wouldn't from many/most other politicians that shamelessly sell us out piecemeal.

Trump wants glory and honor and statues and to be remembered along with the historical great and good. We would be dragged along for the ride.

Trump is a man who wants to be remembered as a great man, by achieving deeds worthy of such remembrance.

Much better than a lot of politicians.
 

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