I'm sorry but no amount of psychology or justification can change the fact that XX is female and XY is male. You can argue that you should be treated as that gender, you can argue you have a disorder that makes you like a woman but you can't say they just are women. Certainly rates of suicide, the fact that the number of self identified trans has shot through the roof, the fact that there are people who change gender for advantages and that they do, ultimately, have the biological sex of male and female means that no, science is not only with trans people and their is no science saying that they are what sex they were born as.
You're completely ignoring the arguments and evidence I have provided showing that the biology alone is a great deal more complex than that. While intersex conditions are edge cases, they are "the exception that proves the rule" in terms of the actual science and medicine,
which cannot be dismissed in good faith as "just psychology". Insisting that "XX is female and XY is male" as an axiomatic absolute as opposed to a convenient rule of thumb is clearly wrong, given that there are such things as
actual successful pregnancy carried to term by XY individuals.
You're also making a
rhetorical argument that scientific counter-evidence must exist in some kind of Platonic hypothetical, which is simply not how science works. You can't claim the existence of hypothetical science; you have to actually do the research and/or cite those who actually have.
No, trans men aren’t men. Trans women aren’t women. Being male or female isn’t a subjective feeling, it is an objectively observable biological fact. It is a fact that experts can study in numerous species that have no psychology at all, some don’t even have brains.
What part of all of the
science and medicine I've repeatedly brought up makes you think I'm arguing from a standpoint of subjective feelings?
I'm a biologist, and I'm telling you that the biology is
more complex than you're insisting. Is it reasonable for society at large to generally run on the grade school simplification? Of course it is,
but that doesn't make the edge cases imaginary. It's like the laws of physics -- we use simple Newtonian physics in our day to day lives, but
that doesn't make relativistic and quantum physics imaginary or a delusion, they are simply a case that falls outside the everyday for most people.
Say, what’s everybody’s stance on Transpeople in sports? Like what happens should a MTF consistently beat most of the Cis-Female competition
My stance is that the International Olympic Committee and the NCAA both studied the issue extensively in order to set updated policies, and the overwhelming majority of sporting authorities worldwide have followed the IOC's lead on the matter.
The current conclusion of the IOC is that, contrary to stereotype, trans women under hormone treatment have no measurable performance advantage over cis women. The same policy goes for cis women whose natural testosterone levels are higher than the typical female range, although this application was initially held up by a lawsuit charging that the IOC hadn't actually produced any specific evidence that high testosterone women significantly outperformed other women in the first place. The policy was permitted to enter effect once the IOC provided such evidence to the courts, although it was very thin evidence.
All of the arguments against IOC/NCAA policy that I've ever seen ignore the actual studies that went into setting those policies, and simply argue that it's axiomatic that trans women have an unfair advantage. Ignoring the evidence because it goes against what you want is not reason. If you think the IOC / NCAA is wrong on the facts,
you need to present actual evidence that this is the case, not just broad-generality claims that "of course trans women outperform cis women".
My stance is, further, that the IOC/NCAA position has been updated several times and that there is no reason to believe that it will not be further updated as the evidence warrants.
Why don't they make sports divisions for trans women / trans men?
Because the IOC / NCAA examination of the medical record indicates that there is no actual need to do so. Trans and intersex athletes under hormone restrictions have no competitive advantage over cis athletes, and there's no significant interest in an 'unrestricted league'.
