Transgender Rights

[Grimalkin]

How much of this do you think is the result of particpation trophies and kids being coddled

Honestly, I think that deprivation builds character, for most of human history we didn't get 3 meals per day and we didn't go to sleep sated. And I think that deprivation has to be shared, because otherwise the child will resent you rather than learn, depriving yourself is also a mechanism to prevent you from going too far.

If the kid is 0-4 years old, you deprive entertainment to negatively reinforce behaviour. If it's older you deprive food or water, for both the child and yourself.

Participation trophies are just an extension of the problem. You have to start by socializing the population at an early age.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

If it's older you deprive food or water, for both the child and yourself.

ok between this and some of your other post remind me never to have personal interaction with you. I'd fear for my safety. That Avatar is fitting.

considering I have no plans of depriving myself of food or water I'll find another way.

 

[Grimalkin]

ok between this and some of your other post remind me never to have personal interaction with you. I'd fear for my safety.

considering I have no plans of depriving myself of food or water I'll find another way.

Look man, I've been hungry and I've met other children that have been hungry or beaten. And I'll fucking tell you right now that most of the children that were hungry gained resilience and character, whereas most of the children who were beaten were fucking assholes who despised their parents.

The fact is that being hungry with your parents is a great method of socialisation for children. Because as I said, humans are not evolved to eat 3 meals per day, food is positive reinforcement and deprivation is negative reinforcement.

For most of human history people have learned by what fills their belly, and have learned by what doesn't.

As for depriving yourself and your child of food and water, the most I'm recommending is skipping a dinner, something to allow both yourself and the child to feel hunger pangs.

TL: DR

You should withhold things like entertainment for minor offenses, and withhold major things like food or water upon major offenses. If you withhold something from your child you should also withhold it from yourself, both to prevent yourself from going too far, as well as to provoke sympathy from the child.

The problem with today's society is that it's a behavioral sink, we're too fucking comfortable.


Edit: Punish yourself and then punish the child.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Look man, I've been hungry and I've met other children that have been hungry or beaten. And I'll fucking tell you right now that most of the children that were hungry gained resilience and character, whereas most of the children who were beaten were fucking assholes who despised their parents.

The fact is that being hungry with your parents is a great method of socialisation for children. Because as I said, humans are not evolved to eat 3 meals per day, food is positive reinforcement and deprivation is negative reinforcement.

For most of human history people have learned by what fills their belly, and have learned by what doesn't.

As for depriving yourself and your child of food and water, the most I'm recommending is skipping a dinner, something to allow both yourself and the child to feel hunger pangs.

TL: DR

You should withhold things like entertainment for minor offenses, and withhold major things like food or water upon major offenses. If you withhold something from your child you should also withhold it from yourself, both to prevent yourself from going too far, as well as to provoke sympathy from the child.

The problem with today's society is that it's a behavioral sink, we're too fucking comfortable.


Edit: Punish yourself and then punish the child.

and I go back to what I said before I have no intention of depriving myself. save for maybe religious fasting and I do not intend to be a hypocrite on that front.

 

[Grimalkin]

and I go back to what I said before I have no intention of depriving myself. save for maybe religious fasting and I do not intend to be a hypocrite on that front.

Right, if you don't intend to deprive yourself then you shouldn't deprive your child. Regardless of whether it's entertainment or food or water.

I honestly think that the largest problem with corporeal punishments can easily be solved if one applies them to oneself first.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Right, if you don't intend to deprive yourself then you shouldn't deprive your child. Regardless of whether it's entertainment or food or water.

I honestly think that the largest problem with corporeal punishments can easily be solved if one applies them to oneself first.

fair enough.

 

[Wilykit]

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Doctor: Transgenderism Mimics the 1980s 'Recovered Memory' Craze

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When the Scandinavians are telling you you're too liberal, you're probably too liberal.

 

[DarthOne]

A lot of trans people, I think and from what I've read from their own posts/comments, look to be gays or lesbians "in denial". They seem to think that if they "change" their gender, then they're not gay/lesbian by being attracted to their own gender since they'd then be the opposite gender (MtF, FtM) after transitioning.

If anything, these people should be given counselling to help them accept that they're gay/lesbian and attracted to their own gender, and that they don't need to go through chemical and hormonal injections, physical mutilations to try to "correct" this issue.

Still a sin though, but much easier to recover from in comparison to messing up one’s body.

Also, I've been watching more detransition stories on YouTube. They're honestly heartbreaking, especially since the Groomers United community immediately turns their back on them at best, harasses them at worst.

Of course! The one thing a cult hates is ex-members. Because it shows them they were wrong.

 

[Jormungandr]

Still a sin though, but much easier to recover from in comparison to messing up one’s body.


Of course! The one thing a cult hates is ex-members. Because it shows them they were wrong.

It's a sin if you're a Christian and look at it through a Christian lense, yeah, but most people aren't Christians these days and don't care about it being a 'sin' if they're just regular people with a different orientation. shrug For these poor bastards to mutilate themselves because they're in denial about their sexuality is... terrible.

Groomers United weirdos, however, are another entirely different thing, the bloody twats. They not only encourage this but celebrate it.

 

[Scottty]

The one thing a cult hates is ex-members. Because it shows them they were wrong.

Or perhaps more simply: because such people show that it is possible to leave the cult.

 

[Ixian]

I love it when a woman who thinks she is a man enters the male restroom at work and awkwardly stares at the dudes using the urinals because the toilet stalls are full and she lacks the equipment to use the urinals.

Why do I have to share bathroom space with women again?

 

[Terthna]

Thing is, a lot of teens seem to think being part of Groomers United is a trend or subculture, like how being a goth, or an emo, or a punk, or a sk8er, or a metal head is/was.

Except that Groomers United isn't something you can laugh about in embarrassment when people see your old high-school and college photos of you with long, black hair and makeup, or crappy clothes, or anything like that. I fucking cringe at the shit I did when I was in high-school, back in the early 00's.

It's harmful. It's dangerous. It's life-destroying.

They're going to look back on these days in their older years like members of the Hitler Youth did; most rightfully with shame, but a few secretly with pride.

 

[Jormungandr]

I love it when a woman who thinks she is a man enters the male restroom at work and awkwardly stares at the dudes using the urinals because the toilet stalls are full and she lacks the equipment to use the urinals.

Why do I have to share bathroom space with women again?

Passive resistance: All the men take mondo dumps in the stalls on a regular basis.

She won't be going in there any time soon again.

 

[DarthOne]

They're going to look back on these days in their older years like members of the Hitler Youth did; most rightfully with shame, but a few secretly with pride.

Those that don’t end up killing themselves. Which is something I expect to see more of as the wheels of the transgender lie start to come off.

 

[49ersfootball]

Those that don’t end killing themselves. Which is something I expect to see more of as the wheels of the transgender lie start to come off.

The domino effects continue....

 

[Ixian]

Passive resistance: All the men take mondo dumps in the stalls on a regular basis.

She won't be going in there any time soon again.

As uncomfortable as it makes me, I could at least ignore it if these women understand anything about male bathroom etiquette.

No, I don't want to have a conversation at the sink while washing my hands, and I certainly don't want to have a conversation AT THE URINALS, and every trans "man" at my woke workplace seems to think the bathroom is the place to bs with coworkers.

Do women really have long conversations in the bathroom? Because so far my experience with women who enter the male restroom at work seem to think thats the thing to do.

 

[Typhonis]

As the famous book title once said. Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus.

 

[Jormungandr]

As uncomfortable as it makes me, I could at least ignore it if these women understand anything about male bathroom etiquette.

No, I don't want to have a conversation at the sink while washing my hands, and I certainly don't want to have a conversation AT THE URINALS, and every trans "man" at my woke workplace seems to think the bathroom is the place to bs with coworkers.

Do women really have long conversations in the bathroom? Because so far my experience with women who enter the male restroom at work seem to think thats the thing to do.

They do. It's like a meeting place for them to flock and gather and, no, it's not a stereotype.

We go in to piss, shit, wash our hands, and walk out. They go in to gossip, pee, gossip, makeup, gossip, then walk out.

 

[King Arts]

As uncomfortable as it makes me, I could at least ignore it if these women understand anything about male bathroom etiquette.

No, I don't want to have a conversation at the sink while washing my hands, and I certainly don't want to have a conversation AT THE URINALS, and every trans "man" at my woke workplace seems to think the bathroom is the place to bs with coworkers.

Do women really have long conversations in the bathroom? Because so far my experience with women who enter the male restroom at work seem to think thats the thing to do.

I can understand talking when washing your hands. But talking when you are at the urinal? What the fuck? I hate when people do that, I don't want to talk with you when I'm holding my dick.

 

[DarthOne]

But she is in the minority, I largely don't care about this issue because it's mostly happening to people who deserve it. Every single swimmer who isn't standing up to this fucking deserves to get dunked on by Lia Thomas.

If they're unable to even stand up for their own self interests, then they fucking deserve everything that's coming to them.

Insert Joker clip here.