Transgender Rights

[DarthOne]

Everything said was the truth, there.

Most "trans" and Alphabet Soupers today are either jumping on a bandwagon because it's trendy/a subculture, genuinely mentally ill (as in schizophrenia, et cetera), or are using the "gay/trans card" to get stuff they want (which includes trying to cancel people they don't like).

The treatments developed for people with actual gender dysphoria (and I don't mean the various diagnoses being thrown around like party favours by medical "professionals" now for every little fucking thing, I mean when the diagnosis itself was taken seriously and not as a cash grab) to genuinely help them are being horribly abused -- dumb kids and teenagers, who would've been goths, or emos, or punks, or skater kids et cetera ten, twenty years ago are being irrecoverably fucking mutilated and mutated.

People with true gender dysphoria/trans people (such as our former owner -- I hope she's doing well wherever she is) are horrified by this bandwagon shit. I've seen them openly say this on various platforms, such as YouTube. They just want to live their lives like anyone else, and this is putting bullseyes on them by association because people think trans-trenders = transgender now.

Interestingly, a few people, which includes people who used to call themselves such, have been saying that women (and to a smaller extent men) who say they're "gender fluid" or "non-binary" (outside of the dumb kids, teens, and attention-seekers of course) do so because they received unwanted attention or trauma, and they're minimizing/distancing themselves from their sexual characteristics as a defensive reaction/way to avoid said trauma/issues.

It kinda makes sense.

This is mostly true, except for the idea that surgery was ever really any sort of ideal treatment for gender dysphoria.

 

[Jormungandr]

This is mostly true, except for the idea that surgery was ever really any sort of ideal treatment for gender dysphoria.

But it's a treatment designed and meant for actual gender dysphoria sufferers to try to raise their quality of life (that's the intention of all the drugs, hormones, and surgeries, anyway).

It's all being horribly abused by the medical industry now.

Teenager with depression or body issues that any teen has had since time immemorial? "Must be gender dysphoria! Don't worry, we won't tell your parents! Here are life-altering and destroying hormones and drugs, and we can slice your tits/dick off in a few years! Haha, now you'll (or in places where there's public healthcare like the UK, institutions like the NHS) be paying thousands per year for medical bills and treatments! Oops! You didn't hear that last part!"

Fucking horrifying.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Tennessee House passes bills banning public drag shows, trans surgeries for minors

Their companion bills, Senate Bill 1 and 3, already passed over the past two weeks and, if passed in the House and signed by the governor, will become law.

ktxs.com

 

[Zachowon]

This is why I may move to Tennessee

 

[posh-goofiness]

I love it here, though I'm in Knoxville and not Nashville. Don't move to Memphis.

 

[Zachowon]

East Ten os better then West.
I used to live in Athens

 

[Scooby Doo]

Me:

 

[Bear Ribs]

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

That twit(ter) user has to be a joke or something.
https://twitter.com/AlliRaine22/status/1630778121166155777

One thing that I hear over and over again is that "kids cannot consent" to gender affirming care.

That's 100% correct. They cannot. BUT THEIR PARENTS CAN. This is literally how medical consent to treat works.

The PARENTS ALWAYS* have to consent in order to treat for ANYTHING

No, parents do not have consent to lop pieces off an otherwise normal child or alter their biochemistry into something incapable of reproducing. This historically was called mutilation and was heavily frowned upon.

You want to be an adult and mutilate yourself, go ahead, but leave the children alone.

 

[Bear Ribs]

That twit(ter) user has to be a joke or something.


No, parents do not have consent to lop pieces off an otherwise normal child or alter their biochemistry into something incapable of reproducing. This historically was called mutilation and was heavily frowned upon.

You want to be an adult and mutilate yourself, go ahead, but leave the children alone.

She's still at the "It isn't happening" stage when the rest of the movement is going "It's happening and it's a good thing."

I'm actually slightly more put out by her having "Death before detransition" in her bio. The detrans people honestly need more support than anybody.

 

[Jormungandr]

She's still at the "It isn't happening" stage when the rest of the movement is going "It's happening and it's a good thing."

I'm actually slightly more put out by her having "Death before detransition" in her bio. The detrans people honestly need more support than anybody.

The detrans stories on YouTube are heartbreaking.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

The detrans stories on YouTube are heartbreaking.

It's a good warning to anyone watching, if you're going to do something permanent, you better bloody make sure it's something you truly want.
You can't zap away years of hormone therapy like you can zap away a tattoo.

 

[Terthna]

She's still at the "It isn't happening" stage when the rest of the movement is going "It's happening and it's a good thing."

I'm actually slightly more put out by her having "Death before detransition" in her bio. The detrans people honestly need more support than anybody.

I'm more worried about what she means by "Death before detransition". Is she saying she would rather die before detransitioning, or that she's willing to murder someone to keep them from doing so?

 

[Jormungandr]

I'm more worried about what she means by "Death before detransition". Is she saying she would rather die before detransitioning, or that she's willing to murder someone to keep them from doing so?

Given that trans-trender activists are militant, it could be either; the latter is a disturbing possibility, given how the Alphabet Soup Community treats "traitors", like de-transitioners.

 

[Yinko]

Given that trans-trender activists are militant, it could be either; the latter is a disturbing possibility, given how the Alphabet Soup Community treats "traitors", like de-transitioners.

Reminds me of one of the assisted suicide activists who was waxing poetic about how beautiful the death of some woman was. If you are of the mind that human life does not contain inherent meaning and that the message does then killing those who attempt to de-transition before they are able to would be functionally moral. Much in the way that baptism by fire (burning at the stake) was moral within it's context as it sent souls off after purification.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

I'm incredibly livid right now. I will just leave this video here and say nothing more till I cool down (If I can) for fear of saying something that will get me threadbanned at best if not straight-up site banned.

 

[Terthna]

I'm incredibly livid right now. I will just leave this video here and say nothing more till I cool down (If I can) for fear of saying something that will get me threadbanned at best if not straight-up site banned.

As I understand it, the poor girl has some trauma related to bullying in her past; so I suspect receiving more in response to her simply announcing that she was going to play Hogwarts Legacy was enough to sour her on continuing to be a VTuber. Sadly, I expect those who pushed her into this are going to take it as a victory, and an excuse to continue bullying people who aren't going to defend themselves to get what they want.

On the plus side though, the more they treat people like that, the less people are going to be willing to tolerate their behavior. Eventually, there won't be any more easy victims left for them to target; only other bullies, and people who have many reasons to despise them.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

As I understand it, the poor girl has some trauma related to bullying in her past; so I suspect receiving more in response to her simply announcing that she was going to play Hogwarts Legacy was enough to sour her on continuing to be a VTuber. Sadly, I expect those who pushed her into this are going to take it as a victory, and an excuse to continue bullying people who aren't going to defend themselves to get what they want.

On the plus side though, the more they treat people like that, the less people are going to be willing to tolerate their behavior. Eventually, there won't be any more easy victims left for them to target; only other bullies, and people who have many reasons to despise them.

What I fear is that they are going to drive that woman to suicide. To anyone who is trans, I would suggest you denounce these people as loudly and as publicly as possible. If not for this poor girls sake, at least your own.

 

[Yinko]

What I fear is that they are going to drive that woman to suicide. To anyone who is trans, I would suggest you denounce these people as loudly and as publicly as possible. If not for this poor girls sake, at least your own.

Good luck. Remember "Gays Against Groomers"? How well did that turn out? When members of an special interest group turn against activists, they become demonized.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

People need to stop caving to those who have indefinite demands.
At the end of the day you have to put your foot down, brace yourself, and let them pathetically splash against you.
They'll run out of steam eventually. You will remain.