Bear Ribs
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Here's the clip, judge for yourself. Personally, I'm of the opinion they both sound masculine.
Transgender Rights
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The long haired bearded person I cant figure out. COuld be a woman getting a deeper voice or a man trying for higher
Agent23
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Transition therapy increases the likelihood of suicide massively, this means that whatever is causing the gender dysphoria is probably amplified my the hormones and the surgery.
An organism in equilibrium doesn't have an increased likelihood of suicidal behavior.
IMHO gender dysphoria is caused by some form of hormonal dis-balance or something else going wrong with the meatsuit in the first place.
Then again, if it is genetic or environmental from an evolutionary standpoint it is a self-fixing problem,even if society becomes a lot more "permissive and accepting" and a lot more transition surgeries and hormone programs are administered.
An organism in equilibrium doesn't have an increased likelihood of suicidal behavior.
IMHO gender dysphoria is caused by some form of hormonal dis-balance or something else going wrong with the meatsuit in the first place.
Then again, if it is genetic or environmental from an evolutionary standpoint it is a self-fixing problem,even if society becomes a lot more "permissive and accepting" and a lot more transition surgeries and hormone programs are administered.
Anyways, I wanted to share this. I bet it's actually a pretty common sentiment more or less held by lots of people.
Found it on the Twitter.
Source (which has replies from the Reddit before said Reddit thread was shut down)
Imma gonna guesstimate it's Man to... Woman with Beard. Classic MtWwB conversion. You used to see them at Carnivals doing honest work (as far as as Carnivals go).
Yeah that's the reason I feel it's pretty noteworthy. Like I said before having this discussion on a hugely popular mainstream show like Dr. Phil speaks to the credibility of Dr. Phil McGraw whom I know almost nothing about beyond pop culture references.
Though I do recall him being on the Joe Rogan podcast before. I can't recall any specifics, but I'm sure it was good since I liked the video and the comments seem to state as much. So maybe he is actually a person who advocates these kind of conversations happening on a national stage.
Found it on the Twitter.
Source (which has replies from the Reddit before said Reddit thread was shut down)
Imma gonna guesstimate it's Man to... Woman with Beard. Classic MtWwB conversion. You used to see them at Carnivals doing honest work (as far as as Carnivals go).
Yeah that's the reason I feel it's pretty noteworthy. Like I said before having this discussion on a hugely popular mainstream show like Dr. Phil speaks to the credibility of Dr. Phil McGraw whom I know almost nothing about beyond pop culture references.
Though I do recall him being on the Joe Rogan podcast before. I can't recall any specifics, but I'm sure it was good since I liked the video and the comments seem to state as much. So maybe he is actually a person who advocates these kind of conversations happening on a national stage.
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KilroywasNOTHere
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Anyways, I wanted to share this. I bet it's actually a pretty common sentiment more or less held by lots of people.
Found it on the Twitter.
Source (which has replies from the Reddit before said Reddit thread was shut down)
geez. and people on twitter are trying to eviscerate him. if you need proof twitter is a cesspool.
He was a forensic and criminal psychologist of some renown prior to working for Oprah, he was also very good at interrogations and how to mind fuck a suspect into confessing. So it's interesting to see him approach trans issues because he spent the first half of his adult life dealing with deviant behavior and psychotics. The reason he ended up working for Winfrey and getting his own show is because I think he was an expert witness against her during the beef lobby fiasco and she was impressed. I thiiinnkk.
Which I think is also why he's more sympathetic to trans people than most people on his side of the aisle (Can't remember if McGraw is a blue dog Democrat or a Reaganite tbh) tend to be. Because he knows the difference between the lunatics and the ones who are just trying to combat a brutal disorder that afflicts them by any means.
He also has to watch himself - Because he's heavily affiliated with Oprah and her network.
edit- He's like Maury Povich, someone who had a really interesting career prior to becoming a talk show host where he kinda got flanderized and associated with trash tv to borrow a Tvdopes phrase.
So its always neat to see him do what he was famous for doing in the first place.
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KilroywasNOTHere
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for all of his controversies, I like Dr. Phill if nothing else he's less cringy then Ellen
He's self aware at least which is more than 90% of his peers can say.
that isnt exactly a high bar to get over
TBH I can see why Maury and Phil both did what they did. I Think Povich was involved in one of more risky investigations into the Kennedy assassinations that got several of his coworkers "dead by suicide or accident" and McGraw was working for lunatics or working on lunatics.
If it comes down to a choice between committing suicide by shooting yourself in the back of the head 6 times then driving your own car into a river from your trunk or being knifed by a schizo or coincidented by Monsanto because your testimony didn't help them win a case and huge paychecks for easy if silly work?
A lot of people would choose the paycheck and at least they both seem to genuinely enjoy what they do however sleezy.
If it comes down to a choice between committing suicide by shooting yourself in the back of the head 6 times then driving your own car into a river from your trunk or being knifed by a schizo or coincidented by Monsanto because your testimony didn't help them win a case and huge paychecks for easy if silly work?
A lot of people would choose the paycheck and at least they both seem to genuinely enjoy what they do however sleezy.
Lazer Raptor
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Autogynephilia, it's spelled autogynephilia, as in gynecologist. Also even if you accept the validity of Blanchard's nonsense, this is an incorrect usage. Blanchard draws a distinction between two types of "transsexuals" (both male to female), "homosexual transsexuals" who are in essence gay men who transition to have sex with men, and "autogynephiles" who are men sexually aroused by seeing themselves as women. Someone who clearly intentionally grows out and maintains a beard does not qualify as an "autogynephile" in any meaningful fashion.
This has been endlessly debunked and is completely non-credible as a serious psychological typology. The basis for his claims of autogynephilia have been found in cisgender women as well, and the typology inherently ignores female to male trans people and/or nonbinary people. Nevertheless, if you're gonna use blanchardian typology at least use it correctly lol.
Similarly, voyeurism is defined as wanting to watch other people engaged in sexual activity or suffering (depending on usage), and once again, makes no sense here.
More to the point, Blanchard outright declared that ignoring both cis women and female to male trans people is a perfectly sensible way to research sexuality because women do not have fetishes.
Also, it's not just that "autogynephilia" has been found in cis women as well; it's that Blanchard defined "autogynephilia" so overbroadly that another psychologist's study found that by Blanchard's definition, 93% of surveyed cis women were autogynephiles; and if the definition was made more rigorous, 28% still would be.
All I see is apologism for a bunch of neurologically deformed sexual predators and I'm all to happy go condense a response down to "lol nah trans people are pathological and a danger to anyone under 18 around them."
There is no debate, there is no debunking. I do not care, this should not be tolerated by our society it gets kids raped, mutilated and killed.
"Cis women" lol.
The Groomer language continues to dehumanize normal humans to justify the abnormal.
The Groomer language continues to dehumanize normal humans to justify the abnormal.
Lazer Raptor
Marxist-Lesbianist
I suppose we're just supposed to believe there's been a mass coverup in academia and by every level of media organization to enable trans people to prey on children, when academia is perfectly happy to have uncomfortable conversations about abuse rates in lgbt relationships or incidence of partner violence against trans women, not infrequently by other trans women? Pull the other one.
Yes.
Lazer Raptor
Marxist-Lesbianist
Cis literally just means "on the near side" whereas trans means "on the far side" and this is a convention that dates back to Roman times. The Romans were hardly dehumanizing people by referring to Cisalpine gaul as opposed to Transalpine gaul now were they.
Thank you for dropping all pretense of rationality and/or tact to just go "I know the transes are predators and everyone else is covering it up which is why there is no data to prove any of this" though, that was fun to see how quickly you switched gears.
Okay groomer
Well to be fair CNN just got caught with a pedo on their team.....
Lazer Raptor
Marxist-Lesbianist
Fun fact, most child sexual abuse comes at the hands of trusted male authority figures, not random trans people!
Unless of course all that research is fabricated by the trans illuminati of /tttt/ or something.