Fuck the Eldar, they are part of the problem. Humanity was fine along with a select number of xeno-species, and then the Eldar snortmurderfucked Slaanesh into existance.
Humanity managed to actually Star Trek it, before everything went to shit.
Fuck the Eldar, they are part of the problem. Humanity was fine along with a select number of xeno-species, and then the Eldar snortmurderfucked Slaanesh into existance.
Humanity managed to actually Star Trek it, before everything went to shit.
Hey, thanks for reminding me that this thread exists!I actually really agree with the OP, and the fun part is that I'm actually a registered member of a tribe, yet I still see the revenge porn for what it is. The funny thing is, while so many people apparently liked Avatar, I was pretty upset by it and its hippy-derived view of Natives, and frankly just how cheap and one-dimensional the writing was.
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"I know that pain is the most important thing in the universes. Greater than survival, greater than love, greater even than the beauty that it brings about. For without pain there can be no pleasure. Without sadness, there can be no happiness. Without misery there can be no beauty. And without these, life is endless, hopeless, doomed and damned."
There's some other stories in there, but they'll have to wait for another day, perhaps tomorrow. I'm thinking of turning this thread into a general review of some old, obscure science fiction.
I can't take that school seriously anyway. You know why? Because all these rich scumbags are preaching to the unwashed masses to stay poor and starving while the rich and beautiful get to enjoy the benefits of modern civilization. They might claim it's for the betterment of the world, some might even believe it, but at its very nature it's about pulling up the ladder with which they rose to top percenter and smashing it so they don't have to share anyone with anyone.Hollywood Eco-Misanthropy
What is bad about solarpunk?I can't take that school seriously anyway. You know why? Because all these rich scumbags are preaching to the unwashed masses to stay poor and starving while the rich and beautiful get to enjoy the benefits of modern civilization. They might claim it's for the betterment of the world, some might even believe it, but at its very nature it's about pulling up the ladder with which they rose to top percenter and smashing it so they don't have to share anyone with anyone.
EDIT: It's like Solarpunk for that matter.
Yeah, but I'm not going to talk about those books. Too well known, and everything that can be said about them has been said about them.Do the Cthulhu Mythos count as science fiction?
In its essence, it is saying "Forget about your children having a better life than you! The community is more important than any individual! Hand over all technological and medical advances to big brother, and accept your lot as a second world citizen!"What is bad about solarpunk?
The sum total of solarpunk being saying 'fusion power, artificial intelligence and interstellar migration aren't possible, your progeny will never be able to match your quality of life, let alone that of your parents and they/you deserve it for ruining the planet'. The whole genre is just glorified Coping for post-peak-oil post-apocalypticism.
Simon Roy's comic "Protector" had the perfect example in why Solarpunk is suspect:...solarpunk is suspicious. But it suddenly makes a lot more sense if you stop thinking of it as a naturally occurring movement, but as a propaganda narrative. The goal not being to prevent techo-tyranny, but to prevent the plebeians from using technology to improve their lot. A wannabe techno-tyrant wielding sophisticated technologies would find it easier to conquer a ragtag group of neo-amish luddites languishing off-grid in farming communes who've been propagandized to believe certain powerful technologies were literally impossible and all effort spent trying to develop them was inherently wasted than a likewise-equipped technological enemy.
Or to put it another way, why would the Old Powers be unhappy with a counterculture based around weakening yourself to make you an easier victim for them?
...you're going to have to walk me though how one gets that out of this:In its essence, it is saying "Forget about your children having a better life than you! The community is more important than any individual! Hand over all technological and medical advances to big brother, and accept your lot as a second world citizen!"
To quote Bassoe on spacebattles:
Simon Roy's comic "Protector" had the perfect example in why Solarpunk is suspect:
Solarpunk is a genre of Speculative Fiction that focuses on craftsmanship, community, and technology powered by renewable energy, wrapped up in a coating of Art Nouveau blended with African and Asian aesthetics. It envisions a free and egalitarian world with a slight bend toward social anarchism. Standing as both a reaction to the nihilism of Cyberpunk and a solution to a lot of the problems we face in the world, Solar punk works look toward a brighter future ("solar") while deliberately subverting the systems that keep that brighter future from happening ("punk").
The genre was coined on Tumblr in 2014 when a single post swept bloggers into an excited frenzy.
Other aspects of Solarpunk include a quasi-Utopian setting, usually 20 Minutes into the Future, with the occasional Crystal Spires and Togas and even sometimes Beast Men (Biologically/genetically engineered or not) to add weirdness or other unwanted proposed elements. Like the Tumblr community that fostered the genre, Solarpunk also tends to feature a high level of cultural awareness, gender equality, self-expression, and artfulness. Likely to combine lighter and more utopic versions of Biopunk, Oceanpunk and Skypunk themes, randomly set in the near/far future (rarely in the far past), with realistic (sci-)fantastic elements. Solarpunk works usually believe in Science Is Good, as the marriage of nature and technology is what leads to such a utopic setting.
It's in the implications rather than openly stated....you're going to have to walk me though how one gets that out of this:
I also don't much care for the whole noble savage trope, either. I have a certain respect for the fierceness and fighting prowess of my ancestors and how they lived, but that doesn't mean I fantasize about living like that myself. I'm sure my ancestors on both sides of my family would find me pretty soft, but I'm rather fond of the luxuries of modern technology, and not having to deal with that whole feast or famine thing that comes with living as a nomadic hunter/gatherer, or constantly having to fight off enemies who would kill me for what I have or try to take me as a slave. Natives were also not always the nicest people either, and I find the depiction of them always being justified in their actions to ring rather false as well. I mean, strictly speaking, if I go far enough back in my ancestry, there were probably Vikings there on the other side of the family, and they weren't exactly the nicest people either.
Aesthetically, nothing. Its just a more Green looking future. Once you get into the implications of the punk genre though it turns into a reductive, communistic, neoprimitive hellhole. The stuff you're reading on TV Tropes is the business pitch for it, or more cynically a propaganda cover. Even at its most generous its a Utopian setting in much the same way Dinotopia is. Its clearly artificial and is not made to compete with actual hardship.What is bad about solarpunk?