The War in Afghanistan

Yet why dies every ducking country telling and complaining because we are not invading to take out the taliban.
Why are they complaining that we didn't spend more American lives for thier people to get out?
Why did people not start leaving the second Taliban started taking cities again.
They aren't complaining about not reinvading, and if you actually looked at what they say on most social media you"d know this.

Our allies are complaining about how incompetent we look because we have so badly botched this withdrawal, and everyone knows Biden went against everyone's advice when he ordered this shit.
 
They aren't complaining about not reinvading, and if you actually looked at what they say on most social media you"d know this.

Our allies are complaining about how incompetent we look because we have so badly botched this withdrawal, and everyone knows Biden went against everyone's advice when he ordered this shit.
It wasn't the best, but I think they are complaining about how the Taliban over ran the ANA and that that US just let it happen.

It was going to happen anyway, and who ever is left in country it's thier own damn fault
 
It wasn't the best, but I think they are complaining about how the Taliban over ran the ANA and that that US just let it happen.

It was going to happen anyway, and who ever is left in country it's thier own damn fault
You seem to forget that Biden is doing the withdrawal backwards from what is the normal withdrawal pattern (civies first, then the equipment, then the troops, not the reverse order like Biden is doing) and shutdown the program Trump had put together to get civies out of harm's way in situations like this.

Biden fucked up everything about the withdrawal so far, stop blaming people caught in country who were operating on the assumption the ANA would actually fight back meaningfully and thought they had like 90+ days before they needed to worry about the Taliban being in Kabul.

Also, had Biden not shutdown Bagram and it's multiple runways a month ago, we could have used its more defensible location for the evac, instead of Kabul's single runway.
 
You seem to forget that Biden is doing the withdrawal backwards from what is the normal withdrawal pattern (civies first, then the equipment, then the troops, not the reverse order like Biden is doing) and shutdown the program Trump had put together to get civies out of harm's way in situations like this.

Biden fucked up everything about the withdrawal so far, stop blaming people caught in country who were operating on the assumption the ANA would actually fight back meaningfully and thought they had like 90+ days before they needed to worry about the Taliban being in Kabul.

Also, had Biden not shutdown Bagram and it's multiple runways a month ago, we could have used its more defensible location for the evac, instead of Kabul's single runway.
Oh, the Bagram shut down was a HUGE mistake. Don't get me wrong, that was one of the biggest fyck ups of it all.

Everyone I have talked about A-stan with and mentioned the ANA, they all knew they would never be able to hold the Taliban off.

The civies that decided to trust then, its thier own damn first.

Equipment usually leaves with soldiers or gets left behind.... depends on the equipment
 
Oh, the Bagram shut down was a HUGE mistake. Don't get me wrong, that was one of the biggest fyck ups of it all.

Everyone I have talked about A-stan with and mentioned the ANA, they all knew they would never be able to hold the Taliban off.

The civies that decided to trust then, its thier own damn first.

Equipment usually leaves with soldiers or gets left behind.... depends on the equipment
Uh-huh; and did any of those people think to try and warn the civilians in Afghanistan? Instead of just, you know, gossiping about it amongst themselves?
 
Uh-huh; and did any of those people think to try and warn the civilians in Afghanistan? Instead of just, you know, gossiping about it amongst themselves?
Any Americans over there can do a quick Google search on it.
And why the fuck would we demoralize the citizens. All we should care about is the Americans, nit the Afghans, a good amount who are probably ANA who ran
 
Uh-huh; and did any of those people think to try and warn the civilians in Afghanistan? Instead of just, you know, gossiping about it amongst themselves?
No, because the people in the government whose job is to warn civilians and have the means to do so were surprised themselves like the idiots they are. And that's because they seem to have taken cues on the state of Afghanistan from own and foreign diplomats and career bureaucrats who were giving them the optimistic line, instead of the intel and military people who were more realistic.
 
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The UK Paras are not looking to start a fight, just extract people. The Taliban seem content to let this happen.

If there's a spark, it'll be b/c an individual soldier does something to interfere with some action by Taliban fighters. I can see that going south VERY quickly. This is why the Brits are only using SF soldiers.
Still, I see this going south.

I know you just posting whag you see on Twitter.

But we owe nothing to Afghanistan. We tried, for 2p fucking years, and all we got was them running away at the first sign of a fight.

If I was Secdef, I would he fired for telling my soldiers to only save American lives. To only fly them out.
If they have no evidence of being American, go see the people form the Embassy. If you have passport, you can get on.

I would also threaten the Taliban if they break thier word.

Could I do anything like this if the pres says no? Potentially not, but he doesn't seem to listen anyway
 
Still, I see this going south.

I know you just posting whag you see on Twitter.

But we owe nothing to Afghanistan. We tried, for 2p fucking years, and all we got was them running away at the first sign of a fight.

If I was Secdef, I would he fired for telling my soldiers to only save American lives. To only fly them out.
If they have no evidence of being American, go see the people form the Embassy. If you have passport, you can get on.

I would also threaten the Taliban if they break thier word.

Could I do anything like this if the pres says no? Potentially not, but he doesn't seem to listen anyway
I do not think the Taliban will do anything rash; there are Navy F-18's on station in Kabul's area, and the Taliban...well they might now have stuff that could annoy it at Bagram, and force the pilot to do send a HARM or Sidewinder their way.

However I doubt the Taliban will, they are not that stupid; it would just give DC an excuse to blow up all the nice shit they just acquired, plus maybe some of their higher ups too.
 
I do not think the Taliban will do anything rash; there are Navy F-18's on station in Kabul's area, and the Taliban...well they might now have stuff that could annoy it at Bagram, and force the pilot to do send a HARM or Sidewinder their way.

However I doubt the Taliban will, they are not that stupid; it would just give DC an excuse to blow up all the nice shit they just acquired, plus maybe some of their higher ups too.
Very true. Very true
 
Requiem for The ‘Stan

As Afghanistan falls before our eyes, we remember the blood-price from days gone by and wonder: what did we buy with it? Our battles belong to those of us who fought them, but they were ultimately in service to policies; policies created by those who are at best indifferent to our existence, or worse, have placed themselves in a state of war with us. Though it seems inflammatory to write such things even at this late hour, the court eunuchs have implied such things for years and now are increasingly explicit in their fever dreams of eliminating their political opposition. And it is a failure of what leaders we have on ‘our side’ that they have refused to take them at their word.

Already the talking heads have begun likening to the Taliban any here among us who would oppose them and the policies they promote. They must deflect. They must craft the story to fit their objectives. The failure of GloboHomo in the graveyard of empires? Shift fire back to the Proles. How dare the Kulaks dissent. How dare we challenge the authority of the credentialed classes and their masters. How dare we cling to such provincial loyalties as to God or family or country. They could permit such outdated notions so long as they served as leverage for goading us into hurling ourselves at distant strangers, but when it entails cultivating our interests within our own borders, it cannot be borne.

Every day, what has been my home feels more and more like an occupied country. Frustrated abroad and blinded by an almost demonic frenzy of resentment and utopian megalomania, the Leviathan turns with increased zeal upon its host. The mandates become continually more bizarre and shrill, with the stakes only getting higher. American citizens are being spied upon, imprisoned, fired, censored, lied to, manipulated, robbed, and killed, and those in the halls of power either incite it, enable it, or look away.
 

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