United States The US Military has become a political organization

[Sobek]

Consider this thread the go-to for news about woke military from now on. I ask that people post stuff like "Army to hold BLM speech on base" and "Marines carry pride flag in march" here.

This is what brought me to make this:

'A Reichstag Moment': Gen. Milley Allegedly Had Fears of Trump Coup

Milley was allegedly so worried that Trump might attempt a coup that he and other service chiefs discussed a plan to resign.

www.breitbart.com

This is the same clown that said CRT was not a problem and that he wanted to "understand white rage". As the Million Maga March was being set up this clown was having delusions it would be a coup "like the brownshirts" (Which shows how much of a retard he is, what he describes is actually Mussolini's march on Rome, not Hitler's coup on Weimar Germany after Hindenburg got killed)

This new book that is being shilled by the WaPo and CNN claim he engaged in backroom talks behind the President, spoke with the opposition to deny him access to nukes (Because just like Pelosi they are that delusional that Trump would just fire nukes willy nilly for some reason and ) "had plans to resign if ordered to execute a coup" which is the most baffling part of it all in my opinion. If Trump tried to coup it would be his job and the job of the other joint chiefs to instead arrest Trump. Why the fuck would they want to resign instead, opening the room for Trump to just appoint a Yes-Man to do his bidding?

The answer of course is obvious when you actually think about it: Because his idea of a coup would be that Trump would demand investigations and massive disruption of the deep state apparatus and Pentagon shenanigan's. Things that are not actually unconstitutional, and which he would have no way to stop legally. It's all projection of their own guilt.

This is the state of the US Armed Forces people: Joint Chiefs conspiring with politicians to treat citizens protesting electoral problems as rebels and anyone not in their exclusive club as plebs.

 

[Zachowon]

Alright.

I am going to get dog piled, called a bootlicker and the like.

What do you think the Chariman and of Joint Chiefs should do?
Should he tell the president and the left wing Admin "We are not going to go with what you want."? No. Because he would get fired and someone who would do what they want would take thier place.

What goes on with the brwches under him is not his fault, as he seems to mainly focus on keeping the politicians distracted.

Milley seems to be good at keeping them distracted as he was one if the ones pushing for the Army to switch from COIN to LSCO, as he knows what can happen should we not be ready for China and/or Russia.

So he may be playing lip service or actually mean it, but I would rather have someone who was in during Trumps admin then someone hand picked by Biden.

 

[Sobek]

I am not gonna call you a bootlicker, I am gonna call you naïve.

The entire narrative is flawed. As you said yourself: If he just tells the president he is not gonna do whatever he is ordering he is gonna get fired. Which makes his claim they were planning a mass resignation stupid. If he honestly thought Trump was gonna go full Tropico on their asses resigning would do nothing, while standing up to him might cause a crisis and lead the rest of the government to intervene. His plan only makes sense when you realize he had no ground to stand on and was throwing a hissy fit over perfectly valid concerns.

Your second point is simply apologia and distraction. A fucking General and Joint Chief shouldn't be playing political games and mingling with people who shit on the constitution and talk about fucking with the Chain of Command yo remove nuclear launch permission to "distract them", that is what 3rd world banana republics do not the US of A. Paying lip service should be minor platitudes and pleasantries in dinners, not "I was talking with the other generals about launching a counter coup because the president wanted to coup".

The man is a disgrace and a prime example of what the establishment wants the US Military to become: Woke NPCs whose loyalties lie in being neoliberal and leftist, not the constitution and nation.

 

[Zachowon]

I am not gonna call you a bootlicker, I am gonna call you naïve.

The entire narrative is flawed. As you said yourself: If he just tells the president he is not gonna do whatever he is ordering he is gonna get fired. Which makes his claim they were planning a mass resignation stupid. If he honestly thought Trump was gonna go full Tropico on their asses resigning would do nothing, while standing up to him might cause a crisis and lead the rest of the government to intervene. His plan only makes sense when you realize he had no ground to stand on and was throwing a hissy fit over perfectly valid concerns.

Your second point is simply apologia and distraction. A fucking General and Joint Chief shouldn't be playing political games and mingling with people who shit on the constitution and talk about fucking with the Chain of Command yo remove nuclear launch permission to "distract them", that is what 3rd world banana republics do not the US of A. Paying lip service should be minor platitudes and pleasantries in dinners, not "I was talking with the other generals about launching a counter coup because the president wanted to coup".

The man is a disgrace and a prime example of what the establishment wants the US Military to become: Woke NPCs whose loyalties lie in being neoliberal and leftist, not the constitution and nation.

The thing is, the military higher ups kinda have to pay lip service. One thing I have been told over and over again. The officer ranks are filled with a lot of politics. If you are not willing to do what it takes to survive, you will never make it further up. Once you reach COL, that is generally when it really starts but a lot of it is filled woth it. Rubbing elbows with people etc etc.

Milley Is doing this. He seems to work his tongue to make sure he can make sure the mikitary fits what he wants.

I don't know what that is and neither does any of us.

 

[Bassoe]

My hypothesis is that we're dealing with a new recruitment stratagy. In a couple of years we're gonna start seeing a bunch of ads along the lines of 'If the military is made up mostly of alt-rightists, this increases the likelihood it'll obey orders to establish an alt-rightist dictatorship and send you to a concentration camp, join up now to increase the percentage of non-alt-rightists in the military!' and 'If the military is made up mostly of wokeists, this increases the likelihood it'll obey orders to establish a communist dictatorship and send you to a gulag, join up now to increase the percentage of non-wokeists in the military!', with the different ads being distributed to various locations based off political polling patterns. Invading Iran and defending Taiwan against a Chinese invasion need more cannon fodder.

 

[Zachowon]

My hypothesis is that we're dealing with a new recruitment stratagy. In a couple of years we're gonna start seeing a bunch of ads along the lines of 'If the military is made up mostly of alt-rightists, this increases the likelihood it'll obey orders to establish an alt-rightist dictatorship and send you to a concentration camp, join up now to increase the percentage of non-alt-rightists in the military!' and 'If the military is made up mostly of wokeists, this increases the likelihood it'll obey orders to establish a communist dictatorship and send you to a gulag, join up now to increase the percentage of non-wokeists in the military!', with the different ads being distributed to various locations based off political polling patterns. Invading Iran and defending Taiwan against a Chinese invasion need more cannon fodder.

Not really.
The left have never been ones to join and stay in the military, where as the Conservatives have always.

The Army saw how bad thier recent ads were and made it so they are just watchable and not commentable. They arnt going to try and defend it.

Most likely after that feed back the PR team will learn

 

[Bassoe]

The left have never been ones to join and stay in the military, where as the Conservatives have always.

Yeah, that's my point. The status quo wants more cannon fodder and 'making sure your political opponents don't have the monopoly of force over you' is always a compelling propaganda narrative in failed or semi-failed states.

 

[Zachowon]

Yeah, that's my point. The status quo wants more cannon fodder and 'making sure your political opponents don't have the monopoly of force over you' is always a compelling propaganda narrative in failed or semi-failed states.

The thing is.
There seems to be a push to get conservatives OUT of such things by well, other conservatives.

In the end, if they cull the military for political reasons, the only way to get the numbers back because erhey lose combat arms, is too make a draft.
Then by the end of said draft after the numbers are met, those that got drafted get our and those that volunteered will stay in and be able to set forth a new era of the Qrmy.
It will then repeat over and over again.

 

[Sir 1000]

Not really.
The left have never been ones to join and stay in the military, where as the Conservatives have always.

The Army saw how bad thier recent ads were and made it so they are just watchable and not commentable. They arnt going to try and defend it.

Most likely after that feed back the PR team will learn

When have lefty wokeists ever learned and not doubled down though?

 

[Bassoe]

In the end, if they cull the military for political reasons, the only way to get the numbers back because erhey lose combat arms, is too make a draft.

The reinstitution of the draft would unironically start the second american civil war. The only reason we haven't already had one (a second civil war) is the continuing comfort and the goverment maintaining the monopoly of force. But if it becomes a choice between 'possible death by fighting foreigners in a meatgrinder war' vs 'possible death by fighting the people trying to use you as cannon fodder', the comfort and safety of 'if you relinquish your willingness to use violence to the goverment, it'll protect you from other people's violence' is already broken.

 

[Zachowon]

When have lefty wokeists ever learned and not doubled down though?

When it invovles the military? Honestly don't know

The reinstitution of the draft would unironically start the second american civil war. The only reason we haven't already had one (a second civil war) is the continuing comfort and the goverment maintaining the monopoly of force. But if it becomes a choice between 'possible death by fighting foreigners in a meatgrinder war' vs 'possible death by fighting the people trying to use you as cannon fodder', the comfort and safety of 'if you relinquish your willingness to use violence to the goverment, it'll protect you from other people's violence' is already broken.

Idk about that
I am pretty sure plenty would love to take it out on China after last year

 

[Captain X]

I am not gonna call you a bootlicker, I am gonna call you naïve.

That's cool - I will.

@Zachowon, you have done nothing but make excuses for this man who called you a Nazi. I can understand not wanting to comment since it could potentially get you in trouble, but it's pretty pathetic to see you essentially gaslight yourself along with everyone else. This man has shown himself to be a communist and an enemy to the Republic - you look a fool standing up for him.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Motardation is a strong drug, hopefully he will grow out of it and get some sense of self-preservation before the service fucks him over big time.

 

[Zachowon]

That's cool - I will.

@Zachowon, you have done nothing but make excuses for this man who called you a Nazi. I can understand not wanting to comment since it could potentially get you in trouble, but it's pretty pathetic to see you essentially gaslight yourself along with everyone else. This man has shown himself to be a communist and an enemy to the Republic - you look a fool standing up for him.

How about you learn s thing or two about how the mimitary works on the inside before commenting on it from an outsiders point of view.

Motardation is a strong drug, hopefully he will grow out of it and get some sense of self-preservation before the service fucks him over big time.

All officers in the military if they stay in long enough face political scrutiny. He is playing smart by giving lip service where needed.

 

[PsihoKekec]

He is playing smart by giving lip service where needed.

There is a difference between lip service and felatio.

 

[Rocinante]

As far as this "we need conservatives to join so that we don't have to rely on a draft" mentality I've been seeing (not just here)

Why should conservatives sign up and go die, to protect the lefties that HATE THEM and want them to die?

If the military wants to be so woke, maybe it can draft some of those lefties it insists on sucking up to, since they typically don't enlist.

Why should conservatives sign up to go fight the left's wars? Why should conservatives go die in wars, for people who want them to die and view them as cannon fodder?

Maybe conservatives should stop joining the military, and the next time the government that hates them wants to go kill a bunch of foreigners, they'll have to draft some of the lefties they're paying lip service to?

 

[AnimalNoodles]

Not really.
The left have never been ones to join and stay in the military, where as the Conservatives have always.

The Army saw how bad thier recent ads were and made it so they are just watchable and not commentable. They arnt going to try and defend it.

Most likely after that feed back the PR team will learn

Now that the left has power, you will see a growing number of them join the military, just as we have seen a convergence in the intel communities.

The average grunt will probably lean a bit right. But the striver class from which most officers are drawn is stridently intersectional and 'woke'. The officer schools will be awash in CRT and officers themselves will be carefully screened and monitored by DIE (diversity, inclusion and equity) commissars. Soon the officer corps will be definately and fully leftwing democrat partisans and the higher you go, the stronger this affinity will be.

 

[Zachowon]

There is a difference between lip service and felatio.

So again, you would rather him say no, get fired and replaced with someone who will actually go with what he is saying?

Now that the left has power, you will see a growing number of them join the military, just as we have seen a convergence in the intel communities.

The average grunt will probably lean a bit right. But the striver class from which most officers are drawn is stridently intersectional and 'woke'. The officer schools will be awash in CRT and officers themselves will be carefully screened and monitored by DIE (diversity, inclusion and equity) commissars. Soon the officer corps will be definately and fully leftwing democrat partisans and the higher you go, the stronger this affinity will be.

Except they wont be.
You obviously don't know how the military works at all, and that there are a LARGE amount of officers who are prior enlisted. Those are the one that keep things good. Hell, plenty of enlisted go Officer for the chance to make changes.

 

[Husky_Khan]

That's cool - I will.

This man has shown himself to be a communist and an enemy to the Republic - you look a fool standing up for him.

General Milley is a Communist?

 

[Zachowon]

General Milley is a Communist?

Apperently to people he is because he said learning about Marxism is needed to know the enemy, and wrote a paper about revolutions and terror groups and thesis on them and effectivness