Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
That'll make the wall more effective. More people manning it to keep a watch for any funny business.
Won't even need to swear any oaths of celibacy either.
United States The United States and Immigration Policy
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Won't even need to swear any oaths of celibacy either.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Any situation with shots fired will be used to demonize them as Trump’s dogs
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
I'm sure the veterans will teach them what not to do.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Even one is more than enough
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
It's either that or bitching about bad illegal immigrant hospitality that AOC loves talking of.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Wall still going.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
The money that the gfm is going for their private wall. Will it succeed as Nehemiah did for his wall that his enemies bitched about? Time will tell.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
Privately Funded Border Wall?
I wonder if it will be something you can’t cut open
Tzeentchean Perspective
Well-known member
Surprising. I'd heard that project was shut down by district court rulings. Not to mention some highly suspect rumors about the online antics of the We Build the Wall founder that made sending money to this project seem like a way to get fleeced (Organized harassment campaigns and such).
And yet...
Even Snopes.com was willing to shoot down a rumor that he was using the money to buy a Yacht.
www.snopes.com
And yet...
Even Snopes.com was willing to shoot down a rumor that he was using the money to buy a Yacht.
Did the Wall GoFundMe Founder Use the Money to Buy a Yacht?
Two leaders of the online fundraising campaign plead guilty to fraud in April 2022.
www.snopes.com
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Only if no one is doing patrols.
Any unmanned wall can be breached with the right equipment and time.
It's still going and the build the wall channel frequently updates.Surprising. I'd heard that project was shut down by district court rulings. Not to mention some highly suspect rumors about the online antics of the We Build the Wall founder that made sending money to this project seem like a way to get fleeced (Organized harassment campaigns and such).
And yet...
Even Snopes.com was willing to shoot down a rumor that he was using the money to buy a Yacht.
Did the Wall GoFundMe Founder Use the Money to Buy a Yacht?
Two leaders of the online fundraising campaign plead guilty to fraud in April 2022.
Turns out you can also leave your name there in a brick with a sufficient donation limit.
And there's conflict with the US army engineers over what they want with the border wall.
Tzeentchean Perspective
Well-known member
Opinion | Trump Got His Wish. Mexico Is Now the Wall. - The New York … Yet another admission contributing to the larger trend: "Mexico is now the wall".
Amusing quotes from the article:
"What, what do you mean you don't care about some terrible thing some rando said on Twitter, don't you understand how horrific it is that people can say ugly things on the internet?"
And then
I love this bit where he calls on Mexico to take action, while implicitly saying Mexico is an awful country where those people could never hope to be safe. I think I know why Mexico's government is less than sympathetic to what US liberals want.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, says administration can deny grant money
A federal appeals court on Wednesday handed a major win to the Trump administration in its fight against “sanctuary” jurisdictions, ruling that it can deny grant money to states that refuse to cooperate with federal immigration authorities.
www.foxnews.com
Sanctuary cities took a financial hit in grant money.
Certified_Heterosexual
The Falklands are Serbian, you cowards.
U.S. agency prepares for massive staff cuts in blow to legal immigration system
It's official, the paper-pushers who cram our nation full of foreigners day and night are GOING OUT OF BUSINESS and BEGGING CONGRESS FOR A BAILOUT
Fuckin lol at reducing the scope and activity of a government operation but still expecting the taxpayers to fully fund it to do nothing; only in this stupid country. Somewhat less funny is the buried lede in this story: that the people in charge of figuring out whether an immigrant would be a net gain for America are literally working for the immigrants.
American bureaucrats really are the stupidest and evilest white-collar workers in the world.
It's official, the paper-pushers who cram our nation full of foreigners day and night are GOING OUT OF BUSINESS and BEGGING CONGRESS FOR A BAILOUT
Fuckin lol at reducing the scope and activity of a government operation but still expecting the taxpayers to fully fund it to do nothing; only in this stupid country. Somewhat less funny is the buried lede in this story: that the people in charge of figuring out whether an immigrant would be a net gain for America are literally working for the immigrants.
American bureaucrats really are the stupidest and evilest white-collar workers in the world.
Certified_Heterosexual
The Falklands are Serbian, you cowards.
More immigration news from Zero Hedge: "Supreme Court Grants Trump Admin Fast-Track Deportations Without Legal Recourse"
Supreme Court Grants Trump Admin Fast-Track Deportations Without Legal Recourse
Perseverance wins.
Remember how many times Trump's immigration policies have been shut down by the courts or rendered inert by bureaucrats. It took a lot of different angles here to fix things. But we're winning.
Nobody passed a law that stopped all immigration, and lots of judges ruled that if you come bearing children you get to skip the border and come on in. But it doesn't matter, because Trump found a way. Immigrants have more requirements to meet and forms to file, there will be fewer visas for them to use, and the bureaucrats who sign their papers are all getting laid off. Illegal immigrants can be turned back at the border if you follow all the rules, which are becoming broader with every ruling, while more agents get hired every day to man the defenses. And the wall is slowly getting built, mile by mile, fully automated with motion sensors and cameras, with funds scraped together here and there from whatever money Trump was about to find lying around.
No, it doesn't have the same endorphin rush as one big victory delivered all at once, but it's just as effective, and harder to roll back.
Supreme Court Grants Trump Admin Fast-Track Deportations Without Legal Recourse
The Supreme Court handed the Trump administration a big victory on Thursday, allowing for the expedited deportation of some asylum seekers, who won't be allowed to argue their case to a federal judge.
In a 7-2 ruling written by Justice Alito (and included Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsberg in the majority), immigrants who fail their initial asylum screenings will be eligible for expedited removal, according to AP.
The ruling comes in the case of a Sri Lankan man who slipped into the US from Mexico. He was quickly arrested, but was unable to convince immigration officials that he would face danger if forced to return.
The high court reversed a lower-court ruling in favor of the man, Vijayakumar Thuraissigiam, who was placed in expedited removal proceedings that prohibit people who fail initial interviews from asking federal courts for much help.
Since 2004, immigration officials have targeted for quick deportation undocumented immigrants who are picked up within 100 miles of the U.S. border and within 14 days of entering the country. The Trump administration is seeking to expand that authority so that people detained anywhere in the U.S. and up to two years after they got here could be quickly deported. -AP
The Trump administration has long argued that the immigration system is rife with abuse and inundated with claims that have no merit. This was reinforced by Thursday's ruling, which notes that "In 2019, a grant of asylum followed a finding of credible fear just 15% of the time."
Dissenting were justices Sotomayor and Kagan, who argued that granting "functionally unreviewable" expedited removal proceedings "flouts over a century of this Court's practice."
"Today’s decision handcuffs the Judiciary’s ability to perform its constitutional duty to safeguard individual liberty and dismantles a critical component of the separation of powers," wrote Sotomayor.
On Monday, the Trump administration published new rules which would make it far more difficult to gain asylum, which will take effect after a 30-day period for public comment.
In a 7-2 ruling written by Justice Alito (and included Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsberg in the majority), immigrants who fail their initial asylum screenings will be eligible for expedited removal, according to AP.
The ruling comes in the case of a Sri Lankan man who slipped into the US from Mexico. He was quickly arrested, but was unable to convince immigration officials that he would face danger if forced to return.
The high court reversed a lower-court ruling in favor of the man, Vijayakumar Thuraissigiam, who was placed in expedited removal proceedings that prohibit people who fail initial interviews from asking federal courts for much help.
Since 2004, immigration officials have targeted for quick deportation undocumented immigrants who are picked up within 100 miles of the U.S. border and within 14 days of entering the country. The Trump administration is seeking to expand that authority so that people detained anywhere in the U.S. and up to two years after they got here could be quickly deported. -AP
The Trump administration has long argued that the immigration system is rife with abuse and inundated with claims that have no merit. This was reinforced by Thursday's ruling, which notes that "In 2019, a grant of asylum followed a finding of credible fear just 15% of the time."
Dissenting were justices Sotomayor and Kagan, who argued that granting "functionally unreviewable" expedited removal proceedings "flouts over a century of this Court's practice."
"Today’s decision handcuffs the Judiciary’s ability to perform its constitutional duty to safeguard individual liberty and dismantles a critical component of the separation of powers," wrote Sotomayor.
On Monday, the Trump administration published new rules which would make it far more difficult to gain asylum, which will take effect after a 30-day period for public comment.
Perseverance wins.
Remember how many times Trump's immigration policies have been shut down by the courts or rendered inert by bureaucrats. It took a lot of different angles here to fix things. But we're winning.
Nobody passed a law that stopped all immigration, and lots of judges ruled that if you come bearing children you get to skip the border and come on in. But it doesn't matter, because Trump found a way. Immigrants have more requirements to meet and forms to file, there will be fewer visas for them to use, and the bureaucrats who sign their papers are all getting laid off. Illegal immigrants can be turned back at the border if you follow all the rules, which are becoming broader with every ruling, while more agents get hired every day to man the defenses. And the wall is slowly getting built, mile by mile, fully automated with motion sensors and cameras, with funds scraped together here and there from whatever money Trump was about to find lying around.
No, it doesn't have the same endorphin rush as one big victory delivered all at once, but it's just as effective, and harder to roll back.
This ruling, IMO, is bigger than the DACA failure. Also, it is a strategic win. It doesn't feel bad to people like DACA repeal does (and honestly, DACA is something I'm mostly fine with), but it means that illegal immigration is much easier to handle.
Yinko
Well-known member
My problem with DACA is birth-tourism. I'm fine with people who actually live here, but it's not as if birth-tourism is all that rare. If they're going to keep it then they should make a sub-ruling that if your parents aren't US citizens and you are born in the US then you need to spend X number of years on US soil before you turn 18 in order to qualify for US citizenship.
I do agree though, this is a huge win. Not just for the anti-immigration crowd either, in a weird way, ICE and the immigration courts were being swamped by countless cases. The average time in court was less than a minute, and there was still a long wait time. By making it easier to deport the majority of cases you will likely increase the amount of time spent on the cases that deserve attention.
DACA isn't for kids born in the US though? DACA is if you arrive as a baby, then stay here and actually contribute by graduating from high school. DACA (as an ideal) is basically the opposite of birth tourism: The mother arrived after the birth, and the kid is probably a contributing member of society.
Yinko
Well-known member
Huh. Interesting. From what I just read though, the proposal to repeal DACA is targeted at illegal immigrants. Some kid comes in as an illegal and grow up. That should fall under the general rules for dealing with illegals, and it seems strange to me that a prerequisite for becoming a citizen isn't being a legal immigrant to begin with.
DACA repeal is targeted at illegal immigrants, but if you are born in the US, you aren't an illegal immigrant, even if your mother is.
That's the whole thought behind DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals), is that it is an exception for people who didn't try to cheat the system, but were brought in by parents. The basic idea is that if a person was brought over illegally as a young child, they a) bear no guilt for the illegal entry, and b) are Americans in everything but legality, as they would have to live in the US the entire time, graduate high school, not get arrested, speak English, etc.
DACA repeal is targeted at illegal immigrants, but DACA is basically the subset of illegal immigrants who bear basically no guilt (depending on how well the actual policy and implementation hews to the stated goal), and are ones that fit into the culture as well as possible. These specifically aren't the criminals.
What you are confusing with this is Birthright citizenship, which is part of the constitution (it was specifically designed to guarantee that all former slaves were considered citizens in the 14th amendment). This is what causes birth tourism.
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