The motivations for sex and the consequences

[ShieldWife]

And ease of anything will increase the supply. Hence the explosion of simps.

It’s my belief that simps have always been around, and by always I mean that women exploiting simps is an evolutionary strategy that likely goes back to before we could be considered human. Though that relationship, with simps supporting women who themselves pursued the alpha males, had to be quashed in order for civilization to develop. To maintain a healthy functional civilization, you need to have monogamy, male dominance, and female submissiveness. This is why if we look back at early civilizations, there was zero tolerance for that kind of thing. Now, despite all of our technology and knowledge, we are socially reverting back to precivilizational barbarism and that will have (and already has) consequences.

To go back to the evolutionary aspect of the simp and his female counterpart. A few years back this weird artist girl made little comics of humans if they had the breeding/sexual characteristics of certain kinds of animals. One species of animals stood out to me, the side-blotched lizard.

There are three different kinds of males with this species. Alpha males who have harems, beta males who are essentially monogamous, and then you have extremely feminine males who can pass for females and skulk around the outskirts of the alpha male’s territory to try to have sex with his females. The last one is the simp equivalent. Of course the female (likely human and lizard both) would rather have the alpha male‘s offspring, but the one alpha male likely can’t provide enough resources and so the harem females get additional resources from those omega males and occasional sex with them too. Humans, like lizards, can fall into those categories but harems and simps destroy social cohesion and so must be minimized through upbringing, laws, and social pressure. In the modern era, not only have we eliminated those methods of reducing simping, but we have put in place upbringing, laws, and social pressure that encourages it.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Also your daily reminder that While Anime or fictional stories involving sexuality of any kind regarless of age is the work of the devil, the sexualization of REAL LIVE 11 YEAR OLDS IS A-OK!!!!!!!.......kill me.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

. A few years back this weird artist girl made little comics of humans if they had the breeding/sexual characteristics of certain kinds of animals. One species of animals stood out to me, the side-blotched lizard.

Oh right, her. I don't know about you, but I get the feeling she wants humanity to have any of these ritual other than humans. Probably because she's a slut desperate for easier cock.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Also your daily reminder that While Anime or fictional stories involving sexuality of any kind regarless of age is the work of the devil, the sexualization of REAL LIVE 11 YEAR OLDS IS A-OK!!!!!!!.......kill me.

Other things being worse doesn't make shit better.

 

[Yinko]

Oh right, her. I don't know about you, but I get the feeling she wants humanity to have any of these ritual other than humans. Probably because she's a slut desperate for easier cock.

Because she's a feminist who hates the way that human biology corrals the extreme majority of people into a tiny handful of behavioral niches.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Other things being worse doesn't make shit better.

true, but my point is pointing out the double standard, last I checked your not wanting to hang people for being white men who have "Waifu's" *Cring* and watch 80's movies.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Because she's a feminist who hates the way that human biology corrals the extreme majority of people into a tiny handful of behavioral niches.

I mean the only way to change that is selective breeding, genetic engeinerring, or time. Contrary to what Disney movies have taught us, nature is not a sentient being with a divine purpose and a motherly personality. IT Just is, having more in common with a machine than a god.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

I mean the only way to change that is selective breeding, genetic engeinerring, or time. Contrary to what Disney movies have taught us, nature is not a sentient being with a divine purpose and a motherly personality. IT Just is, having more in common with a machine than a god.

Why would anyone wish to do such a thing.

true, but my point is pointing out the double standard, last I checked your not wanting to hang people for being white men who have "Waifu's" *Cring* and watch 80's movies.

Right but too easily does a call to correct a double standard become a call to simply invert the double standard.

 

[ShieldWife]

Oh right, her. I don't know about you, but I get the feeling she wants humanity to have any of these ritual other than humans. Probably because she's a slut desperate for easier cock.

I'm not sure exactly what she's like, but a lot of her material is kinda fetishy in a feminist sort of way.

Why would anyone wish to do such a thing.

Rejecting and/or destroying the natural order is one of the major agendas of the alphabet soup and feminist factions of the left.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Rejecting and/or destroying the natural order is one of the major agendas of the alphabet soup and feminist factions of the left.

I meant specifically what he said about using technological artifice to disrupt the system of relations that has built the entirety of human society.

 

[ShieldWife]

I meant specifically what he said about using technological artifice to disrupt the system of relations that has built the entirety of human society.

Well, social leftists want to destroy the system of relations that built the entirety of human society, they just want to destroy it with indoctrination, social pressure, and laws. Since so many members of social left all but reject biology as a conspiracy theory, they don't advocate genetic engineering, but I could imagine a more scientifically grounded (yet still fanatically devout) SJW wanting to genetically engineer humans to get rid of the sex differences and resulting social phenomena that he/she/it so despises.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Why would anyone wish to do such a thing.

For the same reason why Every would be and/or open dictator does it. One because they can, two who is going to seriously stop them? That's part of the reason what makes the monopoly of obliteration so dangerous and M.A.D so important, but that's a different topic for a different thread.

Right but too easily does a call to correct a double standard become a call to simply invert the double standard

True but it wasn't until this past year that people on the right have been advocating that Hollywood hang, while the left has been advocating for the death of us deplorables for the past decade or so, maybe even longer. Maybe the right should have advocated for it sooner, that can (and has) certainly been argued, but my big thing for now is I find this guilty dog barks first behavior from the left to be real tiresome. The right's main concern for the longest time has not been enforcing their will on others or conforming others to their ideal image, but rather asking people at least try to be consistent in whatever image they take, the left on the other hand has not been near as generous.

personally I'm really beginning to be an advocate for arranged marriages, but one it's another subject for another thread, two it wouldn't turn out like I imagine it would and would more than likely create it's own set of problems.

Well, social leftists want to destroy the system of relations that built the entirety of human society, they just want to destroy it with indoctrination, social pressure, and laws. Since so many members of social left all but reject biology as a conspiracy theory, they don't advocate genetic engineering, but I could imagine a more scientifically grounded (yet still fanatically devout) SJW wanting to genetically engineer humans to get rid of the sex differences and resulting social phenomena that he/she/it so despises

Considering that the only thing these guys seem to be capable of doing is whining on social media and smashing things like a child throwing a tantrum, I doubt these guys have the intelligence or are willing to put in the time and effort to master genetic engineering, heck the most advanced thing the best minds of the world have been able to do right now is create a goat who's milk can create spider silk (Or I guess technically it can be called goat silk) and that's after over hundreds of years on the study if not longer.

more than likely I just imagine what is essentially a role reversal. Gender norms and roles being put in place, but as THEY decide it. How dare anybody like ANYTHING on their own accord or be comfortable or at least tolerant in thier own skin? I mean for heaven sakes how many times have they tried roping women into being lesbians simply because they they like activities and hobbies that are typically considered "masculine" and do I have to even bring up the fact that the majority of trans people are male to female?

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

True but it wasn't until this past year that people on the right have been advocating that Hollywood hang, while the left has been advocating for the death of us deplorables for the past decade or so, maybe even longer. Maybe the right should have advocated for it sooner, that can (and has) certainly been argued, but my big thing for now is I find this guilty dog barks first behavior from the left to be real tiresome. The right's main concern for the longest time has not been enforcing their will on others or conforming others to their ideal image, but rather asking people at least try to be consistent in whatever image they take, the left on the other hand has not been near as generous.

People on the right have been raising the alarm and begging others to listen for a hundred years, but more and more people became complacent, they diddnt want to "participate" they diddnt want to "be political" they made the classical, slothful, cowardly error of assuming that if they bothered no one, no one would bother them. They just wanted to Grill, they just wanted their Movies, they just wanted their Vidya.

It's only now that the streets are burning and sons are being dragged away to be castrated that we have even the beginnings of consciousness among the self proclaimed moderates. It was hard to stand for anything, and so easy to be a consumer.
To Paraphrase Yuri Benzemov, it is only after the boot comes down on their face personally that the demoralized person realizes their situation.

personally I'm really beginning to be an advocate for arranged marriages, but one it's another subject for another thread, two it wouldn't turn out like I imagine it would and would more than likely create it's own set of problems.

It is not the most unreasonable thought. It worked reasonably well for all of human history. Our current system has collapsed in a matter of decades.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

People on the right have been raising the alarm and begging others to listen for a hundred years, but more and more people became complacent, they diddnt want to "participate" they diddnt want to "be political" they made the classical, slothful, cowardly error of assuming that if they bothered no one, no one would bother them. They just wanted to Grill, they just wanted their Movies, they just wanted their Vidya.

It's only now that the streets are burning and sons are being dragged away to be castrated that we have even the beginnings of consciousness among the self proclaimed moderates. It was hard to stand for anything, and so easy to be a consumer.
To Paraphrase Yuri Benzemov, it is only after the boot comes down on their face personally that the demoralized person realizes their situation.

So I mean what's the solution, crush the heads of all that oppose you? Heck an anarchist can live to a ripe old age if he has a good enough trigger figure. I'm curious where were YOU when all this crap went down? Why aren't those like you "correcting society." instead of whining on some kind of backwater forum talking about how the left and people in general suck. You want change by fire you got to light a match.

if your going to troll, at some point you have to poop or get off the toilet. Hold yourself to your own standard.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

So I mean what's the solution, crush the heads of all that oppose you?

You're living in the solution, which is decades of grueling ideological deprograming.

Heck an anarchist can live to a ripe old age if he has a good enough trigger figure.

And yet they so seldom do.

I'm curious where were YOU when all this crap went down?

You're asking where I was for the last hundred years of societal decay?

Why aren't those like you "correcting society."

We are, and we're winning. We've been winning for some time now.

Instead of whining on some kind of backwater forum talking about how the left and people in general suck.

You seem to be under the impression that this is where I spend all of my time.

You want change by fire you got to light a match.

Change is already happening.

Hold yourself to your own standard.

I do, what have I said that indicates otherwise?

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

You're asking where I was for the last hundred years of societal decay?

I'm asking where you were in the past DECADE dude.

We are, and we're winning. We've been winning for some time now.

could have fooled me considering how much you act like you have a stick up your butt.

You seem to be under the impression that this is where I spend all of my time.

I guess the fact that you spend any time here at all baffles me considering every time I see you post anything you seem to act like a good chunk of the people here are beneath you. Forgive me if that is indeed a incorrect assessment.

Change is already happening.

Without you or the rest of the right for that matter.

I do, what have I said that indicates otherwise?

I've not seen or heard anything from you to be convinced of that.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

I'm asking where you were in the past DECADE dude.

Ah so an arbitrary chunk of the conflict, got it.

You still refuse to answer, what exactly is it you think I'm calling for.

could have fooled me considering how much you act like you have a stick up your butt.

How foolish you happen to be on a given subject is hardly my concern.

I guess the fact that you spend any time here at all baffles me considering every time I see you post anything you seem to act like a good chunk of the people here are beneath you. Forgive me if that is indeed a incorrect assessment.

I just seem to draw in a certain sort, it's a gift and a curse.

Without you or the rest of the right for that matter.

Thats an interesting way to say "Exclusively because of the generational efforts of those on the right".

I've not seen or heard anything from you to be convinced of that.

You cant even name what you think my standard is, or more probably are increasingly afraid to state it openly because you're realizing you've had it embarrassingly wrong the entire time.

If you're going to accuse someone of not living up to their own standard, the least you can do is state what exactly it is you think they're advocating for, otherwise you'll just look like an idiot.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

You still refuse to answer, what exactly is it you think I'm calling for.

given the kind of remarks you've given me, the death of an entire aspect of American culture and the death of the arts in general, the suppression of any of those who don't bow to those who punch "Those who leave bodies in their wake are the best kind of men, anyone who thinks otherwise deserves to be shoved into a locker." Does that sound familiar? You seem to openly crap on people who enjoy anime or at least anime you don't like because something something something consumerism is unstable.

So what do I think you propose? I think your just fine with a boot to the face, you just want it to be yours. I don't think you'd have a single problem with what the left was doing if it was you and people like you who were doing it. I think you'd be ok with bashing people in the face if they did something you didn't like. I think you wouldn't mind reeducation so long as it was your values that were in the reeducation plan. Does that answer your question better? Do I need to be more specific?

PS: regardless of how this goes, I do thank you for the conversation at it allows me to release some feelings that have been fuming for a while. Not just with you, but the right as a whole.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I mean the only way to change that is selective breeding, genetic engeinerring, or time. Contrary to what Disney movies have taught us, nature is not a sentient being with a divine purpose and a motherly personality. IT Just is, having more in common with a machine than a god.

Kinda funny, but I think people don’t get alongside mother nature is that human nature is neither good nor evil......its meant for a more primitive time where instincts rule

And said instincts are horrifying and not exactly smart or gentle

Said instincts conflict severely with this thing called “civilization” and things like SEX even if we don’t realize it are our instincts telling us to mate and making mating pleasurable.....even when they don’t intend to have kids to begin with

This one instinct amongst others overrides our ability to even choose to satisfy said instincts without incurring possible trouble

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

the death of an entire aspect of American culture

Insofar as Marxist philosophy, degeneracy and consumerism are currently aspects of American Culture I want those aspects of American culture to be reduced to the greatest extent that they can be.

I dont know how to tell you this, but there can be bad aspects of a thing, that it is right to want to see disappear from that thing, for the health of that thing.

the death of the arts in general

Only a supreme pessimist would call what I advocate throwing away "Art".

the suppression of-

I'm going to stop you right there cowboy you realize you're talking to the biggest 2a advocate on the site, yes?

Kind of makes suppression of anyone who is willing to fight difficult, and definitionally you dont need to suppress those unwilling to fight, you just don't have to listen to them.

the suppression of any of those who don't bow to those who punch "Those who leave bodies in their wake are the best kind of men

See, you've combined two ideas, one a strawman of your own creation, and one quote, and treated them like they're one idea.

There is absolutely nothing about the idea that the best men are those with a mastery and development of their violent aspect that indicates this bizarre dualistic relationship you imply between swaths of willing weaklings and a number of strong men.

anyone who thinks otherwise deserves to be shoved into a locker.

Was it you or someone else I had to painstakingly hand hold for several pages through the very simple idea that it is not always correct to give someone what they deserve, but that does not mean they don't deserve it?

You seem to openly crap on people who enjoy anime

It's normal for people who willingly dwell in a sewer to be shit on.

or at least anime you don't like

If I find a silver dollar in a sewer I'm not going to pretend it's a piece of shit, but nor am I going to entertain the idea that the sewer is suddenly not a sewer or full of waste.

because something something something consumerism is unstable.

Consumerism is unstable, stop giving so much money to people who would gleefully throw you in a mass grave.

So what do I think you propose? I think your just fine with a boot to the face, you just want it to be yours.

Incredibly silly of you given my constant advocacy for personal responsibility and distrust of state authority. Someone who wants a controllable populace definitionally does not want that populace to be consistent of physically and mentally strong individuals who refuse to participate voluntary transactions with sources of propaganda.

If I wanted to be the boot I'd be trying to sell you on creature comforts and comfy, non participant ideology, the last thing a tyrant needs is everyone participating, they need the majority in sullen, semi conscious silence.

I think you'd be ok with bashing people in the face if they did something you didn't like.

That sounds like a good way to get shot by an armed citizen.

I think you wouldn't mind reeducation so long as it was your values that were in the reeducation plan.

You think I'd be okay with teaching people my values?


uh... Yes? Some values are better than others, and people should be taught them.

PS: regardless of how this goes, I do thank you for the conversation at it allows me to release some feelings that have been fuming for a while. Not just with you, but the right as a whole.

Yes whatever nightmare ghoul you're picturing when you try to attack me seems to be weighing heavily on you. It's just a shame that it is not me.