Star Wars The Mandalorian

ShadowArxxy

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I'll be honest... The series experienced rapid villain decay when Moff Gideon showed up. Giancarlo Esposito was fine in Breaking Bad but his character here lacked all the nuance and subtlety of that one. Just too try hard and too smug. Like I get it... Really.

In my opinion, smug tryhard is *perfect* for an Imperial Moff. The Moffs were, after all, civilian Imperial authority figures selected on the basis of ideological suitability, and given authority for the specific purpose of suppressing dissent from local governments and populations. They were not military officers (some, like Tarkin, had military backgrounds but this was not a requirement), and they were *not* generally competent people.
 

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Two problems with that. The first is that you'd only know any of that if you're really big on the EU and stuff, if you came into this from the films I think it's reasonable to assume that Moffs were, like Tarkin, military officers.

The second problem is that "well, there's a reason he's a stupid, cliche villain" does not excuse the fact that he's a stupid cliche villain, or the fact that he just shows up at last minute acting like he's some big established character the audience is supposed to care about when he's....not.
 

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Season opener is great. Lots of fun watching it.

It manages to hit all the right beats. Great atmosphere, great structure, great acting. Bits of nostalgia-bait, but never to the extent that it gets overbearing. It's charming, as it should be. If the season maintains this level, they're going to knock it out of the park. This made me outright like -- and hope to see more of -- a character from the Aftermath books (which I didn't enjoy at all). That's a major achievement. The part was acted with just enough understated presence that the character works fantastically alongside the Mando, without hogging the spot-light.

Little visual details stood out. The way we get a few very brief bits of physical comedy (like with the droids) is very well done. This, and not the Marvel-gag kind of humour, is what works well for SW.

On reflection, I can think of only one real point of criticism: there's an iris wipe about half-way through that looks really weird to me. Amateurish, like the editing was poorly done. Well -- if that's the only real criticism I can think of , things are going right.
 

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Yeah, the season opener is brilliant.

And leaves us 99.99% certain that Boba Fett is still alive.

Also, the size and shape of the Krayt Dragon seen in the episode is consistent with the "Greater" Krayt Dragon from the EU as opposed to the smaller and more lizard-like "canyon" Krayt Dragon, as is the locomotion by "swimming through sand", so that's back in canon. Ditto Krayt Dragon pearls.
 

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Yeah, the season opener is brilliant.

And leaves us 99.99% certain that Boba Fett is still alive.

Also, the size and shape of the Krayt Dragon seen in the episode is consistent with the "Greater" Krayt Dragon from the EU as opposed to the smaller and more lizard-like "canyon" Krayt Dragon, as is the locomotion by "swimming through sand", so that's back in canon. Ditto Krayt Dragon pearls.
I still prefer the krayt dragons looking more like wyrms or actual dragons than weird worm things.
 

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I still prefer the krayt dragons looking more like wyrms or actual dragons than weird worm things.

Going by the EU sketches of a Greater Krayt, they look like giant pleiosaurus dragon hybrids -- the part we saw was still just the head and neck. Krayts are fucking huge and there's a reason they terrify the fuck out of everything that lives on Tatooine.
 

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Yeah, the season opener is brilliant.

And leaves us 99.99% certain that Boba Fett is still alive.

Also, the size and shape of the Krayt Dragon seen in the episode is consistent with the "Greater" Krayt Dragon from the EU as opposed to the smaller and more lizard-like "canyon" Krayt Dragon, as is the locomotion by "swimming through sand", so that's back in canon. Ditto Krayt Dragon pearls.
from reading the wiki, it seems Boba was actually watching everything go down or is somewhere and is confirmed alive. Mainly from him being cast
 

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from reading the wiki, it seems Boba was actually watching everything go down or is somewhere and is confirmed alive. Mainly from him being cast

What you actually see in the episode is that the armor possessed by Cobb Vance is very obviously Boba's armor with acid damage all over the paint job. The backstory reveal indicates he got it from Jawas, in a simplified version of the same story from Aftermath. And at the very end of the story, a scarred Temuera Morrison with a gaffi stick and cycler rifle across his back is watching the Mandalorian ride past on his speeder bike as he heads back to his ship.
 

Zachowon

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What you actually see in the episode is that the armor possessed by Cobb Vance is very obviously Boba's armor with acid damage all over the paint job. The backstory reveal indicates he got it from Jawas, in a simplified version of the same story from Aftermath. And at the very end of the story, a scarred Temuera Morrison with a gaffi stick and cycler rifle across his back is watching the Mandalorian ride past on his speeder bike as he heads back to his ship.
that is what I saw yes. Who else would Temuera Morrison be playing besides who he himself co firmed he could be playing
 

Bacle

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who else could it be that has aged like he has?
Well they have said Captain Rex may be in the new season, as well. He's a Jango clone too.

Though he was supposedly the white-bearded old guy on the Endor strike team so I kinda doubt it's him
 

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who else could it be that has aged like he has?

It almost 99.9% confirmed its Boba Fett. Unless we're going to do some Rian Johnson level subversion here. I liked the episode overall, though I felt there were some weak moments, mainly related to the Marshal (was that Timothy Olyphant) and his opening scenes actually seemed kinda cringey (like in regards to his flashback story) but I thought everything else was decent enough. The Greater Krayt Dragon looked like a Sandworm as opposed to more draconic which made me sad

But overall I dug it. I dug the lore bits of how Tatooine reacted to the destruction of the (second) Death Star and how quickly things went tits up. And I utterly love and adore the Tuskens and how they bothered detailing their society. I loved how they expanded on them and their society in the old KOTOR games and with the Prequel era comics and that trend is continuing here. They really are drawing more from the Legends canon (and other expanded canon beyond the films) and whatnot as well in this episode, which is just great and hopefully a sign of things to come!

How long are we going to keep the spoilers up? A week? Until the next episode?

Until Bacle ignores it again I suppose... oh nvm.
 

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It almost 99.9% confirmed its Boba Fett. Unless we're going to do some Rian Johnson level subversion here. I liked the episode overall, though I felt there were some weak moments, mainly related to the Marshal (was that Timothy Olyphant) and his opening scenes actually seemed kinda cringey (like in regards to his flashback story) but I thought everything else was decent enough. The Greater Krayt Dragon looked like a Sandworm as opposed to more draconic which made me sad

But overall I dug it. I dug the lore bits of how Tatooine reacted to the destruction of the (second) Death Star and how quickly things went tits up. And I utterly love and adore the Tuskens and how they bothered detailing their society. I loved how they expanded on them and their society in the old KOTOR games and with the Prequel era comics and that trend is continuing here. They really are drawing more from the Legends canon (and other expanded canon beyond the films) and whatnot as well in this episode, which is just great and hopefully a sign of things to come!

I would say it's all but confirmed; the episode doesn't explicitly identify him, but pretty much does everything SHORT of putting a "Hi, My Name Is Boba Fett And I Want My Armor Back!" nametag on the guy.

The lore bits are cool, but they are largely just visually showing the exact events of the Tatooine segments of the "Aftermath" novel, at least from Vance's point of view.
 

Zachowon

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I would say it's all but confirmed; the episode doesn't explicitly identify him, but pretty much does everything SHORT of putting a "Hi, My Name Is Boba Fett And I Want My Armor Back!" nametag on the guy.

The lore bits are cool, but they are largely just visually showing the exact events of the Tatooine segments of the "Aftermath" novel, at least from Vance's point of view.
And I am surprised the used someone from THAT book
 


slightly off topic but this us why I'm partially cautious about burning down the machine just for the sake of burning it down. I get we are in a culture war but we don't want to burn down the library of Alexandria in the process.
 

Zachowon

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slightly off topic but this us why I'm partially cautious about burning down the machine just for the sake of burning it down. I get we are in a culture war but we don't want to burn down the library of Alexandria in the process.

This is why I will always be optimistic about series I like
 
But overall I dug it. I dug the lore bits of how Tatooine reacted to the destruction of the (second) Death Star and how quickly things went tits up. And I utterly love and adore the Tuskens and how they bothered detailing their society. I loved how they expanded on them and their society in the old KOTOR games and with the Prequel era comics and that trend is continuing here. They really are drawing more from the Legends canon (and other expanded canon beyond the films) and whatnot as well in this episode, which is just great and hopefully a sign of things to come!


Having the tusken speak mainly in sign language made their form of communication a lot more coherent in my opinion so I thought that was a really nice touch.
 
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